bear1949
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:20:29 PM new
The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals are expanding the frontiers of bad taste with an ad campaign that likens chicken farms to Nazi death camps. In a letter to the editor of WorldNetDaily, PETA's Matt Prescott explains his group's position: "Tragically, those who dismiss the abuse of animals on factory farms today sound hauntingly similar to those who dismissed the suffering of Jews because they were 'subhuman.' "
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/02/28/peta.holocaust/index.html
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Helenjw
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:34:47 PM new
What an inappropriate manner to gain publicity for their cause!
Although I sympathise with their concern for animal mistreatment, sometimes they get carried away with the program.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Feb 28, 2003 01:37 PM ]
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ebayauctionguy
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:40:09 PM new
Wackos.
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bear1949
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:43:19 PM new
This is the same group that last week protested billboards in Wisconsin advertising "drink milk". They want Wisconsin to change the state drink from milk to beer, saying that milk production is too stress on the cows.
Now "MADD" will be protesting "PETA"
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austbounty
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:44:17 PM new
PETA may consider starting an international court for meat eaters.
They could start by extraditing lions, cats, dogs and crabs.
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kyms
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:30:24 PM new
As much as I adore and respect animals I can't begin to imagine the mind that could even compare the extermination of the Jews by a madman to animals being slaughtered for food.
Sometimes people go too far in the name of a good cause..
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colin
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posted on February 28, 2003 03:04:19 PM new
PETA started out as a good idea.
Hark!! I believe everyone is in agreement that something went wrong.
Amen,
Be nice to your furry and feathered friends,
Eat them only when your hungry.
Reverend Colin
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Twelvepole
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posted on February 28, 2003 07:50:35 PM new
Eat them only when your hungry.
Of course... 
PETA needs some real mental help...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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tomyou
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posted on February 28, 2003 08:50:41 PM new
Gee I thought PETA stood for Please Eat The Animals  !!!!!!!
I'll have to agree what a bunch of wack jobs to even consider such an analogy !
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kraftdinner
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posted on February 28, 2003 09:21:35 PM new
I guess I stand alone on this one.
I agree that any kind of animal abuse and/or suffering is unnecessary. Sometimes you have to go overboard to be heard.
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meadowlark
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posted on February 28, 2003 09:34:46 PM new
Umm, not intended as an attack, kraftdinner, but do you eat real cheese on your Kraft Macaroni?
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kraftdinner
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posted on February 28, 2003 09:37:38 PM new
You mean that orange powder stuff meadowlark? That's made by Dow chemicals, so I'm safe.
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meadowlark
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posted on February 28, 2003 09:51:07 PM new
Kraft, LOL!!
Patty
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profe51
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posted on February 28, 2003 11:03:57 PM new
"I guess I stand alone on this one"
No you don't kraftdinner. My family raises, slaughters and hunts ALL it's own meat. We are not wakos, or even remotely vegetarian. We don't agree with most of what the PETA people say, but do agree that the issue of humane treatment of farm animals needs to be looked at. Most people today have never seen a commercial broiler farm or slaughter house. They don't want to know the deplorable confinement those birds suffer in their 18 weeks of life. If they could witness the brutality of a commercial beef or hog killing floor, where the animals are stunned, gaffed, hung up and cut to bleed out AS they die, PETA would have millions more members. To most modern Americans, meat, milk, eggs and cheese is something that comes from the store, nicely wrapped in plastic. It has little or no relationship to the animal who provided it. It's real easy to ignore the way these beasts are treated. Out of sight, out of mind. As kids we learned to treat the animals that would provide us with our food with the utmost respect and concern. The first thing we were taught when we were old enough to learn how to butcher, was to give thanks before the killing; FIRST to the animal, and then to God.
You're right, sometimes you DO have to go overboard to be heard.
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smenkveld
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posted on March 1, 2003 02:55:40 PM new
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 1, 2003 03:07:54 PM new
Thank-you for 'siding' with me prof. Your post says it all... out of sight, out of mind.
I'm not critisizing, but who here has watched an animal being slaughtered (commercially)? Would you mind your pet dog or cat going through that? Humane treatment isn't too much to ask for, like prof. states.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 1, 2003 03:34:31 PM new
I think that every post here indicates that we all agree in ethical treatment of animals.
PETA'S publicity to promote that goal by using scenes from Natzi death camps side by side with scenes from animal slaughterhouses is inappropriate.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Mar 1, 2003 04:58 PM ]
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bear1949
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posted on March 1, 2003 04:43:56 PM new
Kraftdinner.....
That orange stuff from Dow Chemical?....It's Agent Orange...
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 1, 2003 05:32:57 PM new
And Kraft Foods should be commended for being able to find novel ways to put the old stock to use bear! Ah, but who cares, as long as it's tasty!
I don't agree Helen. I think the comparison to the holocaust is a good one. If animals have emotional feelings, then it's the same terror for them imo.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 1, 2003 05:42:31 PM new
Well, Kraftdinner,
If you think that a chicken's feelings are more important than those of a human with memories of the Natzi Death camps then perhaps you should join PETA if you don't already belong.
I admire the efforts of PETA to improve the treatment of animals. But in this advertising campagn, they have gone overboard.
So, I disagree with you.
Helen
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 1, 2003 06:40:36 PM new
Helen, I don't think a chicken's feelings are MORE important than a human being, BUT, I do think if a chicken is capable of feeling pain and being scared, terrorized, etc., which I'm sure they are, then its feelings aren't that far removed from any human that's gone through a terrorizing experience.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 1, 2003 07:24:55 PM new
Kraftdinner,
Maybe you misunderstand my concern. I agree with you that animals should be treated humanely. Hell, I like my dog more than most people.
I just think that the PETA advertisement using Natzi death camps to promote their cause is vulgar, inappropriate and way out of line.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Mar 1, 2003 07:25 PM ]
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bear1949
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posted on March 1, 2003 07:49:06 PM new
Hopefully anyone involved with PETA did not ever have a family member is one of the death camps.
If they had, they really need a reality check.
Growing up as a young kid, I had a friend whos grandmother still bore her number tatoo on her forearm. She never learned english but she never forgot how to laugh.
I ask my friend why she laughed so much, he asked her & translated her words to me. To laugh is to live, to cry is to give up & be led to slaughter.
After all she had seen, she refused to cry & enjoyed everyday as if were her last.
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No chicken will ever be able to express their feelings of sadness or joy, Or have to worry about being is a concentration camp.
GOD put some animals on this earth to provide nourishment to mankind and chicken is one of them.
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profe51
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posted on March 1, 2003 07:57:31 PM new
No chicken will ever be able to express their feelings of sadness or joy, Or have to worry about being is a concentration camp.
Spend a few sunrises with a flock of free range birds Bear, and you'll know that they are able to express unbridled joy like most people only wish they could. Watch a protective hen search for and finally mourn a lost chick, and you'll see that sadness is also in their emotional repertoire.
PETA pushes the envelope of what is in good taste for sure,but as we become further and further removed from the animals who provide us with sustenance and clothing, they are the only ones speaking for them, and their message has had some positive impact.
[ edited by profe51 on Mar 1, 2003 08:15 PM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on March 1, 2003 08:31:17 PM new
They've "pushed the envelope" of bad tast too far this time. Their message makes them appear insensitive and thoughtless.
Helen
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 1, 2003 08:46:55 PM new
I can appreciate that Helen.
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profe51
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posted on March 2, 2003 08:20:47 AM new
me too...
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bear1949
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posted on March 2, 2003 08:37:52 AM new
Prof...
I live on 10 acres of property and have chickens, ducks, geese none of which are caged.
I know the difference.
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ebayauctionguy
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posted on March 2, 2003 04:59:45 PM new
smenkveld: "PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals"
How do I join?
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