posted on March 9, 2003 09:44:45 AM new
Halliburton wins contract on Iraq oil firefighting (Reuters 3/6/03)
"Subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root (KBR) has won the contract to oversee any firefighting operations at Iraq oilfields after any U. S. led invasion, a Defense Department source said Thursday."
posted on March 9, 2003 10:16:00 AM new
They wont believe you or the artical.And when things dont go their way,they resort to name calling.Good luck on a decent coversation.
posted on March 9, 2003 10:19:00 AM new
I believe it. And I say it is no different than what Clinton [or any past administration] has previously done. Show favor to their supporters. No surprise or denial here.
posted on March 9, 2003 10:51:33 AM newYou see no conflict of interest, because of Cheney? And, don't tell me he resigned so there isn't any. Get real!
posted on March 9, 2003 11:17:36 AM new
It's oh so cozy.
In 1965, President Lyndon Johnson, continuing the project after Kennedy's death, issued Executive Order 11222 setting forth six basic principles of conduct for public service. That Executive Order expressly stated that an employee should avoid any action that might result in, or create the appearance of (1) using public office for private gain; (2) givingpreferential treatment to anyorganization or person; (3) impeding government efficiency or economy; (4) losing complete independence or impartiality of action; (5) making a government decision outside official channels; or (6)affecting adversely the confidence of the public in the integrity of thegovernment.
posted on March 9, 2003 11:33:54 AM new
What a bunch of hooey!
The Democrats are hardly saints!!
Oh, Mr. Kettle, why are you so black? said Mr. Pot.
LBJ was one of the WORST when it came to government corruption (bribes or whatever you want to call it). You don't think he benefited from the Vietnam War??
And what about this little item?
"From theory to real life: A young congressman named Lyndon B. Johnson built his family fortune from roughly zero in 1943 to at least $14 million by the time he won his first election as U.S. President in 1964. About half the wealth derived from a license his wife held that allowed her to operate KTBC, a radio station in Austin, Texas -- regulated, of course, by the federal government.
As biographer Robert Caro documents in The Years of Lyndon Johnson: Means of Ascent, the success of the station was due to political favors the Johnsons gave and received."
posted on March 9, 2003 12:34:36 PM new
Corruption is OK if everybody's doing it?
Lol, that arguement is somewhat morally lacking. Greed isn't called the "mother of all sin" for nothing. Even Greenspan is speaking against "infectious greed" as motivating the current crop of corporate scamdals.
Plonk!
You have the right to an informed opinion -Harlan Ellison
posted on March 9, 2003 01:22:38 PM new
snowyegret - Corruption is OK if everybody's doing it? No, but if there's any corruption going on, we have laws for that. This is called 'trying to smear' someone when it's not been proven anything wrong has occured.
Showing favoritism is a little different that corruption And showing favoritism has happened on both sides....to those who support elected officials. To imply only one side has done so, is disingenuous.
posted on March 9, 2003 01:26:11 PM new
"Corruption is OK if everybody's doing it?"
No, of course not. And I was not making that argument. You're being factitious I hope in reading that into my post.
So, now my argument is "morally lacking" for pointing out that the Democrats participate in the same thing that you are accusing the Republicans of doing. What a bunch of ...hypocrisy!
I think your argument is the one "morally lacking". I condemn BOTH sides for this type of action.
posted on March 9, 2003 01:43:45 PM new
Laws mean nothing if there is conspiracy to not enforce them.
For example in Utah a Grand Jury felt the Federal Reserve was acting in a manner not legal or constitutional and the Judge and the Prosecuter both refuse to act on their instructions. An action that supposedly should result in their removal from office. - But it won't.
posted on March 9, 2003 01:48:56 PM new
Now, bones and Linda, I brought up the Executive Order. It is about theappearance of impropriety, and it most certainly does pertain to the awarding of large contracts to Cheney's former place of employment.
bones: ALL politicians become corrupt to some extent.
LindaK: This is called 'trying to smear' someone when it's not been proven anything wrong has occured.
You have the right to an informed opinion -Harlan Ellison
posted on March 10, 2003 03:11:06 AM new
"KBR was widely viewed by many in the oilfield services industry as the likely candidate to oversee firefighting in Iraq's oilfields. Halliburton does extensive logistic support work for the U.S. military."
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You must be in the Oil Industry.
Maybe you could suggest some other companies that could take care of this?
posted on March 10, 2003 06:14:13 AM new
It took them two posts to actually blame Clinton....is this a new Bushbot record or what!
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic ervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both boldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
- Julius Caesar
posted on March 10, 2003 09:33:46 AM new>About half the wealth derived from a license his wife held that allowed her to operate KTBC, a radio station in Austin, Texas -- regulated, of course, by the federal government.
Bones21, unless I'm missing something here - and I probably am, can you please explain to this ignorant one just how operating a radio station in America equates to the level of corruption by having Dick Cheney personally profit from this military action? I mean, if you can make the case there, then you can say that ALL Radio Stations are potential "corruption" if the owner ever decides to run for any office -- right?
Please explain this to me in detail enough so that I can understand your point.
And showing favoritism has happened on both sides....to those who support elected officials. To imply only one side has done so, is disingenuous.