posted on March 17, 2003 07:41:35 AM new
Diplomatic Efforts Fail, War Looms
(CBS) The United States, Britain and Spain on Monday withdrew their resolution seeking authorization for military action against Iraq, abandoning their efforts to win U.N. backing for war.
Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock announced the decision just before a closed meeting of the Security Council, on a day that President Bush declared over the weekend would be a "moment of truth for the world."
posted on March 17, 2003 07:47:00 AM new
I would not be surprised if instead of issuing "one final ultimatum" to Hussein, Bush announces the attack has already begun.
I just hope he gives the inspectors and other foreign nationals enough time to get out or at least get to safety. The way the president is proceeding now, he's left them completely exposed and prime hostage material.
[ edited by msincognito on Mar 17, 2003 07:50 AM ]
posted on March 17, 2003 07:56:42 AM new
So it's finally come. Funny, right after Bush was elected I predicted here that he'd get us into a war sooner or later--that was when he was hell-bent on antagonizing the Chinese, and long before 9-11 occured. And he's finally gotten his wish. And after Iraq, what country next? Best get set for the long haul, 'cause WWIII may have just started.
Oh, and another prediction of mine is coming true: we are losing allies at a remarkable rate. I feel like Nostradamus! Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
posted on March 17, 2003 07:58:35 AM new
Please don't bring God into it, at least not in such a trite and offensive way. A lot of Godly people are down on their knees right now praying for a miracle.
I went to a prayer vigil last night with my parents. It was scheduled to end at 9 p.m. but many stayed until almost 11, asking God for guidance and protection for the innocents and soldiers.
God didn't create this mess. Greed, vanity, arrogance and recklessness did.
[ edited by msincognito on Mar 17, 2003 08:04 AM ]
posted on March 17, 2003 08:14:21 AM new
Saddam can still avert a war, just pack up and leave... it could be that easy, but we all know that a dictator will never leave and the war will be fought...
posted on March 17, 2003 08:25:59 AM newmsincognito
Please don't bring God into it, at least not in such a trite and offensive way. A lot of Godly people are down on their knees right now praying for a miracle.
I'll bring whatever I want to bring into it.
Bush didn't hesitate to bring religion "into it." His way was trite and as offensive as anyone can get. That's MY opinion.
posted on March 17, 2003 08:30:29 AM new
Helen is right, Bush has invoked god and religion at every opportunity. It is quite a shame.
Those that have sincere religious beliefs should be upset. But they can thank their "brethern" Pat Robinson and the Moarl Majority, and the SBC, and all the others that have insisted on merging religion and politics.
When religion and politics come together, religion loses every time.
posted on March 17, 2003 08:42:15 AM new
Your original post indicted all Christians, not just Philistines who use faith as a public show. It was offensive. I suspect it was intended to be.
posted on March 17, 2003 09:01:17 AM new
misincognito,
Who in the hell are you talking to and what are you talking about?
Be offended. I don't give a dam. If you believe in miracles and think that prayer will get us out of this mess because God is on our side, you're deluded.
You are offensive to me and I am sure that it's intended.
posted on March 17, 2003 09:08:26 AM new
Helenjw, she said she went to a prayer vigil to ask for protection of our troops and the innocents
Your 'Dear God, protect me from the people that believe in you' was an oxymoron at best, since in your 'prayer' your asking an entity that people believe in, and you don't, to protect you from?
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posted on March 17, 2003 09:21:07 AM new
Nearthesea
My comment which was targeted toward George Bush and his use of religion to promote war was blown out of proportion. The fact that it was misunderstood by you and misincognito does not surprise me.
The "prayer" was intended to be oxymoronic.
I, too have concern about the civilians, and troops who will be killed and wounded. If you read my posts since this war was first proposed, you will see that.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Mar 17, 2003 09:24 AM ]
posted on March 17, 2003 10:07:14 AM new
The best thing that could happen is for Saddam to leave the country. He won't though. I'm hoping that a great number of his troops realize that even though the U.S. is invading a dirty war will only hurt their country and that Saddam has not had his country's best interests at heart all along.
I would like to avoid war. But Saddam is like a sneaky petulant destructive child that won't do what is expected or demanded unless physically forced to.
I have heard reports that 15% of the Iraqi army has already deserted, particularly those nearer the border. I'm hoping that number climbs higher.
posted on March 17, 2003 10:09:16 AM new
Winston Churchill's grandson was interviewed by CNN's Aaron Brown this week. Brown asked Churchill, "Do you have no concern about the whole notion of preemptive war, that is to say, to go to war with a country that has yet to fire a shot at you?" Mr. Churchill answered, "If the President of the United States could have, by preemptive action, avoided 9/11, would he not have been right in doing so?" That prompted this adroit Leftlogic reply from Brown, "Well, of course, he would. I mean, don't you think that's oversimplifying the question?" If anything has been oversimplified, it is Aaron Brown!
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"How will the world look when the guns fall silent and the smoke clears? Whatever the result of the UN Security Council vote this week, it is no longer possible to argue that the United States is or will be 'isolated.' Britain, Spain, Italy, Eastern Europe and almost 30 countries in all have signed up to help America liberate Iraq. At the same time, the old Cold War pattern of allies and enemies has dissolved. France, Germany, Russia and China are united in opposing independent U.S. military action in the Iraq crisis -- and, more broadly, in opposing the dominance of the single American superpower. And the institutions of Western unity that helped to win the Cold War, notably NATO and the European Union, are thrown into crisis." --John O'Sullivan
