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 yeager
 
posted on March 19, 2003 03:07:03 AM new
Meet Odia Hussien. This is Saddam's oldest son. I know that ABC news has to be wrong. He probably is a great guy.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/World/saddam_son_030214.html



 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on March 19, 2003 03:57:19 AM new
I've read that article before. Saddam is afraid of his own son. That is how dangerous he is. They must be eliminated, but it's too bad so many innocent lives must be lost to do it. I was watching the news last night showing the people in Iraq and seeing the faces of children who may be caught in the line-of-fire was too much emotionally. The Kurds are again leaving their homes for the mountains. They fear being gased yet again. I believe most Iraqis will be happy to be rid of Saddam. What I can't understand is if they so hate him, why haven't they done it themselves? Surely, American is not the only country in the world to have fought for its own freedom. In 1775, America began its quest for freedom from British rule with a bunch of rag tag fighters. Yet, we dug in our heals and fought until freedom was won. Why is it then that countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan are willing wait until a country such as the U.S. comes in and spends billions of its own money and expends the lives of its own citizens? Cuba is a classic example. We hate Castro and the popular opinion is that most Cubans hate Castro. If that's the case, why is he still in power? You mean to tell me there is not ONE person in any of these countries willing to take out these tyrants?

Well, I guess it is easier to have someone else do your job for you. The sad thing is, besides the gross loss of life, that when it's all over, there will be someone somewhere downing the U.S. for having fought the war. We will be the big, bad, butting in where we don't belong country - in someone's eyes.

I'll admit, I haven't been for this war up to this point. It took seeing the Kurds running from what little they have in fear of being gassed by Hussein and it took the looks on the faces of women and chldren and they were evacuating their homes. Any man who would indiscriminately murder his own people just to prove a point, must be eliminated and we can no longer wait for God to do that for us. I see now that this war is necessary. I just wish there were another man sounding the battle alarm.

I find myself supporting this war effort, but that does not mean I support the man running the show. Here's a better way to put it. Did you ever see someone or meet someone you took an instant dislike to? You don't know why, you don't really know them, but you dislike them just the same? Well. . .can't help the way I feel.

Cheryl

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on March 19, 2003 05:49:33 AM new
Well, I guess it is easier to have someone else do your job for you. The sad thing is, besides the gross loss of life, that when it's all over, there will be someone somewhere downing the U.S. for having fought the war. We will be the big, bad, butting in where we don't belong country - in someone's eyes.

Cheryl, Have you "met" Helen?





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 CBlev65252
 
posted on March 19, 2003 07:09:53 AM new
Twelvepole

Yes, I have met Helen and I agree with a lot of what she has to say. I have the uncanny ability to see both sides. I may not understand both sides, but I can see them. But my opinion lays somewhere inbetween Helen and a couple of other posters. (Almost said "I lay inbetween. . .", but was smart enought to catch and correct it. What a huge laugh THAT would have give all of you! LOL)

I see our reasons for going to war and I agree that now Saddam is showing his true colors more and more. I, on the other hand, also see the collateral damage as not be acceptable. So, where does that leave me? Sometimes I feel like a tree blowing in the wind.

Cheryl


 
 keiichem
 
posted on March 19, 2003 08:28:16 AM new
Cheryl



We are still trying to get castro! the most recent are currently sitting in a jail in panama, Luis Posada Carriles ,Guillermo Novo Sampol, Gaspar Gimenez Escobedo and Pedro Remon Crispin. there are also about 247 people jailed in the U.S. for trying to liberate cuba (doing nothing against the U.S.) in one way or another.

it is not that easy to overthrow a dictator with out the use of weapons, which most populations under these types of regimes do not have.

also, when these regimes come to power they usually do it covertly, take the power and then start doing mass excecutions and instilling fear in the common population.
you result in having the staunchest opposition killed or exiled in another country where they cannot do anything without breaking the host country's law.

PS: the UNITED NATIONS do not work, it is all a paper show!!!!!
12 years it has condemed cuba for human rights violations and they still cant get observers in the country. in the meantime castro has 11 million slaves , families seperated, prisoners whos only crime is to think different and the UN does nothing.

max

 
 gravid
 
posted on March 19, 2003 09:25:45 AM new
An interesting thing is that the ownership of guns is very lightly restricted in Iraq. They are not permitted military weapons like AK's but hunting rifles - shotguns and pistols are common.
However I also read that the last time Saddam was in public was about 2 years ago.
If you tried to get within 1000 meters of him you might find it very difficult. And you might have difficulty deciding if you were shooting at one of his doubles.
Infact last time I saw a pic on TV of his military leaders all of them were dark haired with a big moustache. About half of that crowd looked like a clone.....

I'm just not buying the truth of the idea that the Iraqis are just waiting to embrace the US as liberators. They may want Saddam gone but feel the US is an unwelcome invader BOTH.




[ edited by gravid on Mar 19, 2003 09:28 AM ]
 
 yeager
 
posted on March 19, 2003 09:33:54 AM new
Ever notice how they all sort of look alike. I think this is true for Australians too!

 
 meadowlark
 
posted on March 19, 2003 10:13:59 AM new
yeager,

Your sarcasm actually made me laugh out loud.
Patty

 
 bear1949
 
posted on March 19, 2003 10:32:17 AM new
It has been reported in the past that there are 8 or 9 "doubles" for Saddam.

I wouldn't have a problem with "taking" all of them out.

They knew the risks of the job, so let them all pay.

 
 DeSquirrel
 
posted on March 19, 2003 12:17:12 PM new
"What I can't understand is if they so hate him, why haven't they done it themselves? Surely, American is not the only country in the world to have fought for its own freedom."

It's a little hard to do when anyone with any kind of authority who is not of the "inner circle" is murdered under the slightest suspicion. Mock revolts are frequently staged where troops arrive on bases and announce they have "revolted" against Hussein. Whoever "joins up" is then arrested, tortured and killed, with videotapes being sent to Hussein.
 
 yeager
 
posted on March 19, 2003 04:53:25 PM new
I also heard that the most favored name for new born girls born in Iraq is Helen! Sometimes, it's used seveal times in one family. It's not unusual to have 3 or 4 Helens is every family.



[ edited by yeager on Mar 19, 2003 04:56 PM ]
 
 
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