posted on April 16, 2003 05:52:38 PM new
Great song by Darryl Worley - click on the link at the bottom to stream in either Real Audio or Windows Media...
HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN?
I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
Now they say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
Well after 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Now I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fightin' for
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
And all the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten?
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
posted on April 17, 2003 06:32:45 AM new
Then for God sake...go after the guilty...THE SAUDI's. Or does that takes TOOOOO much intelligence? Apparently not within the grasp of a C-student?
A politician will call you intelligent to keep you ignorant. I tell you that you are ignorant so that you may want to be intelligent - Eugene Debs
posted on April 17, 2003 06:49:24 AM new
I will be SOOOOO glad when Spring Break is over and the kids go back to school
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
posted on April 17, 2003 10:04:11 AM new
That's such a beautiful song. I hope it does well and that he makes tons of $$ from it. How quickly some appear to forget how most of America felt that tragic day. And the reason that we now support the 'War on Terrorism' will not be forgotten by many.
Thanks, wgm.
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
posted on April 17, 2003 01:01:14 PM new"And the reason that we now support the 'War on Terrorism' will not be forgotten by many.
Linda
The war we now fight is not about terrorism.
Remember, Iraq is not Al Qaeda. Osama bin Laden is responsible for 9/11 not, Iraq.
We are invading Iraq today to remove Saddam in order to have power over the area, to obtain strategic position in the area from which to dominate the mid-east, oil and to protect Israel.
It's really strange how Osama became Saddam and how many people were duped into believing that one had become the other.
posted on April 17, 2003 01:28:54 PM new
Nobody's being DUPED, Helen. You just don't get it. I'm sure you've heard and understood President Bush's speeches where he has continually said:
[i]President Bush himself has said:
Sept. 20, 2001, address to Congress: "This war will not be like the war against Iraq a decade ago, with a decisive liberation of territory and a swift conclusion. . . . Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. . . . And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime."
You just choose not to believe him. I do.
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
You should be able to "get" that battles with middle eastern countries will not end terrorism but instead, will escalate terrorism. Fear and hatred produce terrorism. It's that simple.
Helen
ed. to remove superfluous 'and'
[ edited by Helenjw on Apr 17, 2003 01:48 PM ]
posted on April 17, 2003 02:23:26 PM new
Since the thread is about September ll, isn't it interesting that this poem was written September 1938 and seems to be describing a tragedy similar to ours.
September 1, 1939
W. H. Auden
I sit in one of the dives
On Fifty-second Street
Uncertain and afraid
As the clever hopes expire
Of a low dishonest decade:
Waves of anger and fear
Circulate over the bright
And darkened lands of the earth,
Obsessing our private lives;
The unmentionable odour of death
Offends the September night.
Accurate scholarship can
Unearth the whole offence
From Luther until now
That has driven a culture mad,
Find what occurred at Linz,
What huge imago made
A psychopathic god:
I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.
Exiled Thucydides knew
All that a speech can say
About Democracy,
And what dictators do,
The elderly rubbish they talk
To an apathetic grave;
Analysed all in his book,
The enlightenment driven away,
The habit-forming pain,
Mismanagement and grief:
We must suffer them all again.
Into this neutral air
Where blind skyscrapers use
Their full height to proclaim
The strength of Collective Man,
Each language pours its vain
Competitive excuse:
But who can live for long
In an euphoric dream;
Out of the mirror they stare,
Imperialism's face
And the international wrong.
Faces along the bar
Cling to their average day:
The lights must never go out,
The music must always play,
All the conventions conspire
To make this fort assume
The furniture of home;
Lest we should see where we are,
Lost in a haunted wood,
Children afraid of the night
Who have never been happy or good.
The windiest militant trash
Important Persons shout
Is not so crude as our wish:
What mad Nijinsky wrote
About Diaghilev
Is true of the normal heart;
For the error bred in the bone
Of each woman and each man
Craves what it cannot have,
Not universal love
But to be loved alone.
From the conservative dark
Into the ethical life
The dense commuters come,
Repeating their morning vow;
"I will be true to the wife,
I'll concentrate more on my work,"
And helpless governors wake
To resume their compulsory game:
Who can release them now,
Who can reach the deaf,
Who can speak for the dumb?
All I have is a voice
To undo the folded lie,
The romantic lie in the brain
Of the sensual man-in-the-street
And the lie of Authority
Whose buildings grope the sky:
There is no such thing as the State
And no one exists alone;
Hunger allows no choice
To the citizen or the police;
We must love one another or die.
Defenceless under the night
Our world in stupor lies;
Yet, dotted everywhere,
Ironic points of light
Flash out wherever the Just
Exchange their messages:
May I, composed like them
Of Eros and of dust,
Beleaguered by the same
Negation and despair,
Show an affirming flame.
posted on April 17, 2003 02:39:05 PM new
I thank my lucky stars, every single day, that people who think like you aren't running our country.
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
posted on April 17, 2003 04:19:58 PM new
Tex, Your only one of a long, long line that have told Helen, she's full of sh*t. Helen considers herself an anarchist.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1931/secA1.html
Helen, You should start to read the papers or watch the news. (something other then the left leaning Tabloids your reading now).
Several links to Terrorist have been discovered already. Many more will surface, I'm sure.
- Harry Thompson