posted on April 22, 2003 07:32:26 PM new
LOL! Now, the PITA people are trying to negoitiate with Al Jazeera to picture animals being slaughtered in the US for food. They have offered to pay $10,000 to have these pictures shown. Just a couple of months ago, they were launching a campaign to compare Nazi death camps to animal slaughterhouses.
NEW YORK - A vegetarian activist group says the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera is willing to run graphic footage of human war victims but won't accept their commercial showing bloody animals.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said Monday it offered to pay the network $10,000 to run its 30-second Arabic-dubbed spot, but was refused. Al-Jazeera said it's still possible the ad may run.
PETA specifically targeted Al-Jazeera because the news network was in the news early in the war for airing pictures of bloody American bodies.
The ad shows cows hanging upside down in a slaughterhouse after their throats had been slit, goats being killed and a chicken thrown violently at a box. It hasn't aired on any television network.
"It's certainly curious that they would be willing to show people the outcome of war but not be willing to show people the outcome of choosing to eat meat," said Bruce Friedrich, PETA's director of vegan outreach.
But Mostapha Saout of Allied Information, a company that arranges advertising for Arabic-speaking networks in the United States, said Al-Jazeera held off because of sensitivity to its own personnel killed in the war with Iraq.
"We are looking at it again," he said. "It wasn't a final decision."
posted on April 22, 2003 08:37:44 PM new
Why won't governments allow slaughterhouses, etc., to be shown on regular cable TV? Everything else people shove in their mouths is advertised to the max, why not meat as well? Too bad they again had to go to the extreme to try and be heard.
posted on April 22, 2003 09:36:19 PM new
If people don't want to know what goes into their mouths then they shouldn't complain when they get tumours and boils and things.
posted on April 22, 2003 10:17:44 PM new
I know some PETA people personally, and I have to say, they're pretty loony and extreme.The ones I know won't even wear leather shoes for pete's sake. They are, however, the ONLY organized group saying ANYTHING about our meat supplies. More power to them. IMO, people who have no respect for the living things that feed them cannot be too concerned about their own health either.
posted on April 22, 2003 10:24:17 PM new
I occasionally donate to PETA although I do not agree with their position fully. As it has been observed in a prior post "They are, however, the ONLY organized group saying ANYTHING about our meat supplies" and for that reason keep an important dialog in the forefront and should be supported.
posted on April 23, 2003 04:12:12 AM new
So one day, my girlfriend and her mother go to a dog show (her mom raises Shelties). A woman is wandering the show looking at and petting various dogs. No one thought anything about it. Until some of the larger dogs began throwing up. And a few smaller ones had seizures and died.
They cornered the woman outside (she stayed behind a little too long). Turns out she's a PETA member who believes that if dogs can't roam free, they're better off dead.
I wonder if PETA can show me where packs of wild yorkies and Miniature Pinchers roam free of all human contact (and nature made them that way).
posted on April 23, 2003 06:54:13 AM new
I have slaughtered animals to eat, both domestic and wild. Don't know what the big deal is about. A steak tastes just as good.
I suppose that if we showed how automobiles or houses are made, people would stop buying them ?
Eating meat is healthy. PETA should be out protesting the sugar and starch in our diets, that's what's killing us and causing the obesity problems.
posted on April 23, 2003 10:28:20 AM new
Yum, yum twelvepole....I'll be right over to share that beauty with you
From the WSJ today:
Where's the Beef?
The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals are calling on the town of Hamburg, N.Y., to change its name to "Veggieburg," reports Buffalo radio station WBEN. "PETA's Joe Haptas tells WBEN News it will give the Hamburg school district $15,000 worth of veggie burgers if the town changes its name." Not a chance, says a supervisor from the town, which "celebrates the Hamburger with a festival every July."
But why isn't PETA asking Buffalo--named after the buffalo burger--to change its name?
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
posted on April 23, 2003 11:25:30 AM new
kraftdinner I know this a subject you feel strongly about...so I'm trying to tread lightly here.
I've have seen programs on TV on many subjects...those like the Discovery Channel and the Learning Channel. Now I admit they aren't repeated over and over. I don't think most people care to watch any animal being slaughtered .... but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy eating the meat from these animals.
Chickens and fish being slaughtered to get ready for sale isn't much different. It's all still 'taking life' for our own nourishment.
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
posted on April 23, 2003 12:20:17 PM new
Linda, you don't have to worry about treading lightly on any subject with me. I hope you know that deep down.
It's my own hang-up really. I think of animals being no better or worse than humans. If it's necessary to eat these creatures then we should at least do it more humanely. They pump a lot of antibiotics and hormones into slaughter animals which ends up in your system. Just be aware that's all.
posted on April 23, 2003 01:54:51 PM new
I eat meat (and right now I'm really craving a hamburger) but the issue of food safety is a serious one ...
Frontline did a really good piece on this that talked about how the incidence of e Coli poisoning is skyrocketing, mostly killing children. Bad food handling processes are largely to blame (and why you can't get a burger medium-rare any more.)
posted on April 23, 2003 03:50:14 PM new
KD - Thank you. We each have our own 'little issues'.
msincognito - Those are serious problems that need to be dealth with more seriously. And stores that 're-do' the meats once their expiration dates have passed, should be fined HEAVILY, imo. I haven't read anything lately about the 'mad cow disease' but I worry that our standards might too lax and that may become a problem for us too.
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I was surprise to read, in this thread, that PITA is keeping a 'watch' on meats. That's the first positive thing I've ever heard about their group. Most of what I've read about them leads me to think they're a bunch of extreme nutcases. Sorry to anyone that offends...but it's how I've always viewed that group.
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
posted on April 23, 2003 07:24:22 PM new
and they spray tons of pesticides and chemicals on all those fruits and veggies also. Not much of anything is truly "organic anymore. I have seen several shows about slaughter houses and chicken farms on a various numbers of networks. You don't see it more often because it doesn't pull the ratings for the big networks.
posted on April 23, 2003 07:55:45 PM new
The milk cows life span is 5 years,The cow is in a state of pregnacy for those 5 years,to produce a lot of milk.Chemicals and hormones are steady pumped in those cows.
The same needles are used over and over to the other cows,any germs are carried over,to the rest of the stock.The calves are used for veal.
Gives a whole new meaning to the slogan:
"Got milk"?
