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 kraftdinner
 
posted on July 5, 2003 08:53:07 PM new
... vote for Bush in 2004? Do you think he can redeem himself in time?


 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on July 5, 2003 10:11:30 PM new
Not only will I be voting for President Bush, I also will be helping out...

This is the man we need for another 4 years until the stench of that Democratic Administration is long gone...

If it hadn't been for Clinton subsidizing everything under the sun, the economy may not be in the shape it is in today...

Funny how no one mentions that all of the "fake" books by these corporations were started during the Clinton years and actually found out now...


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 neonmania
 
posted on July 5, 2003 11:32:51 PM new
There is no way in hell I will be voting for BUsh. It's not just that I do not trust him. I don't believe that he hasthe ability or knowledge to bring this country ou of the funk that it is in nor do I believe that he an admit to those weaknesses to take valid advice of those that do.

I don't blame Bush for banking or corporate scndels. I aknowledge that a great deal of our financial woes resulted from 9-11 but a this presidents plan for curing what ails this nation seems to be akin to stomping on it's toe to make it forget the pain in it's mouth. Don't have a job? No problem... let me give you a war to watch.

How is it that someone who never bothered to venture outside our borders before his presidency can be so obsessed with controling all that happens there now.

I think that another year of slumping economy and more of our military dying daily in Irag nd now probably Liberia are going to weigh heavily on his support. Unfortunately unless the Dems pulls an articulate, intelligent, charasmatic candidate out of their hat, we may be stuck with the putz anyway.
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 profe51
 
posted on July 6, 2003 05:59:38 AM new
At the present time there is no one to vote for, but I'll write in 12's name rather than vote for Bush
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What luck for the leaders that men do not think. - Adolph Hitler
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on July 6, 2003 07:04:45 AM new

Now, That's desperation.



Helen


 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on July 6, 2003 09:38:24 AM new
JFK must be spinning in his grave from all these leftists anti-americans...

After all it was "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 neonmania
 
posted on July 6, 2003 11:27:10 AM new
GIve it a rest Twelve. I may be a leftist but my despisal of Bush stems from a love of this country. I was not aware that blind devotion to the leader is an anti-american trait. If so, may I assume that you were anti-american during the Clinton administration?
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
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 Twelvepole
 
posted on July 6, 2003 12:03:27 PM new
You don't have to assume anything... I would of been classified an "anti-american" while Clinton was in office... especially when he signed NAFTA

Of course I did garner some respect of the man when he got caught in the Lewinski scandal.... guess lying isn't limited to just republicans eh?

Got respect a man that gets the girls to drop to their knees...



AIN'T LIFE GRAND... [ edited by Twelvepole on Jul 6, 2003 12:07 PM ]
 
 bigcitycollectables
 
posted on July 6, 2003 12:23:45 PM new
I dont trust Clinton or Bush

[ edited by bigcitycollectables on Jul 6, 2003 12:24 PM ]
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on July 6, 2003 12:35:04 PM new
Good post neon!!

Twelve, it's almost like you're becoming the voice of the Republicans here. I hope you don't mind being in the hot seat all the time! With that in mind... Clinton said he didn't have sexual relations with Monica, which is true. I don't think of a bj as sexual relations, but a sexual act. A lot agree with me, but some deep rooted conservatives think that even kissing could be called sexual relations, so it comes down to the wording imo.

Again, Clinton signed a huge oil deal with Canada through Nafta. If he didn't, your gas would cost you $3.00 - $4.00 a gallon.



 
 mlecher
 
posted on July 6, 2003 02:18:46 PM new
When did Clinton sign NAFTA? I thought it was negotiated, finalized and signed by Bush Sr. Clinton only let it go into effect because that is what the neo-cons wanted.

Only the joke was on the neo-cons by the big corporations.....

But if your answer to everything 12-pole is blame Clinton, then the Democrats have nothing to worry about from your ilk.

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on July 6, 2003 02:30:22 PM new
mlecher, the Canada-U.S free-trade agreement was signed in 1989, and its successor, the North American free-trade agreement was signed in 1994.


 
 junquemama
 
posted on July 6, 2003 02:44:18 PM new
Reagan himself was a dreamer, capable of imagining a world without trade barriers. In announcing his presidential candidacy in Nov. 1979, he had proposed a “North American accord” in which commerce & people would move freely across the borders of Canada & Mexico. This idea, largely overlooked or dismissed as a campaign gimmick in the US, rankled nationalist sensibilities in the neighboring nations. But Reagan was serious in his proposal. Though he traveled only once outside the North American continent during his first 57 years, he was neither insular nor isolationist. California has windows to the world in Asia, and Reagan thought of the US as a Pacific power as well as an Atlantic one. He also had a Californian’s consciousness of Mexico and an actor’s appreciation of Canadians, who are well-represented in the film community. The dream of a North American accord would drive the successful pursuit of a US-Canadian free trade agreement and a future-oriented “framework” trade agreement with Mexico
Source: [X-ref immigration] The Role of a Lifetime, p. 461 Jul 2, 1991

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on July 7, 2003 07:09:43 AM new
... vote for Bush in 2004?

No, no and NO!

Cheryl
My religion is simple, my religion is kindness.
--Dalai Llama
 
 msincognito
 
posted on July 7, 2003 10:43:41 AM new
I cannot imagine a circumstance under which I would vote for Bush. I would vote for a nice hibiscus or even a sago palm first.
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