posted on July 7, 2003 03:24:32 PM new
This was on the news tonight...like they are the only ones! Get a grip...what about the ones without a job.Geez.
posted on July 7, 2003 05:26:29 PM new
what help are they looking for??
it has been hard to get them to come and pick up stuff-they want to know how many pc and tv sets will they be picking up from you??
posted on July 7, 2003 08:17:21 PM new
SA - A church that nobody thinks of as a church. All they see is a charity. Masters of disguise. They get contributions from people that would never give to a different church than their own.
Sort of like a certain fascist state pretending to be a democracy to suck in votes while they consolidate power.
posted on July 8, 2003 03:04:52 AM new
I agree with Kraftdinner. The SA, along with many, many charities are feeling the effects of 9/11 and the war. Our local SA has helped a lot of people without jobs and without homes. Admittedly, I don't quite understand what the complaint is in this thread. If you don't want to give, don't give. Who are they hurting by asking for help?
Cheryl
My religion is simple, my religion is kindness.
--Dalai Llama
posted on July 8, 2003 06:32:28 AM new
in the past,SA thinks we are using them as dumping ground and free trash hauling service.
so some of us just dont think of helping SA lest they think we are using them as the garbage can.
posted on July 8, 2003 06:53:21 AM new
Our local SA was, for a long time, the only agency interested in dealing with homeless people at all. Everyone just saw them as vagrants and bums.
Finally, a local university did a survey of the homeless people in the area and found out that most of them were working, but just couldn't find a place to live that they could afford. At least one-third of the adults were trying to take care of one or more children.
When this info came out, there was a lot of shock and considerable shame in the community. The Salvation Army just said "We knew that." They already had four rooms set aside in their shelter so that families with children could stay together.
Things may be different in other communities, but here, they do good work.
------------------- We do not see things as they are. We see them as we are.
------------The Talmud
posted on July 8, 2003 07:26:30 AM new
Charities, such as the Salvation Army, will continue to be overburdened while Bush is in office. Unemployment will lead to an increasing number of people without shelter, food or health care. In an ideal society such charities would not be needed.
posted on July 8, 2003 07:57:35 AM new
room and board at SA is not free,i know someone at one time work for them and complain of the wages,but then he is free to leave.
posted on July 8, 2003 08:06:42 AM newHelen, we're already seeing that here. We have a "second harvest" type foodbank that collects food from restaurants and grocery stores. They have never run out of food before. Now they're facing shortfalls at least once a week.
stopwhining In my area, the Salvation Army does not charge for any of its services to the homeless like shelter, food or clothing. They did at one point "require" shelter residents to attend church services. But I believe they have discontinued that requirement in this area.
I somewhatshare gravid's concerns about the religious nature of the group - to the extent that they get government funding. But I don't have a problem with a religious charity using donations and its own funds, and anyone who donates to the Salvation Army without realizing it's a religious organization has to be a bit dotty - there's never been any attempt to "disguise" the SA's religious nature. At any rate, the Salvation Army administrators in this area seem more concerned with helping people than in preaching to them.
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We do not see things as they are. We see them as we are.
------------The Talmud
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