posted on July 26, 2003 12:35:06 PM new
Ok everyone knows now that Saudi Arabia were responsible for 9/11.
We also know that the Bush administration has been protecting them. There has been a coverup since before 9/11.
Heres the question..
If this is really a war on terror to protect us. If this new doctrine of pre emptive war is to protect us then why is Bush protecting the very country that attacked us on 9/11?
Why did he tell us it was Iraq when theyve known it was Saudi Arabia? Why have they alraedy decided to launch pre emptive war against Syria, Iran, China, Cuba, etc..
Why is Bush refusing to talk to North Korea?
All he has to due is sign a treaty that we wont attack them.
WHY ARE ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES ON THE LIST EXCEPT THE COUNTRY THAT ATTACKED US?
HE HAS REFUSED TO RELEASE THE REPORT THAT TELLS WHAT HE KNEW ABOUT 911, AND WHAT HE DID ABOUT IT. HE ALSO REFUSES TO DECLASSIFY ALL THE INFO ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA. ILL ASK IT AGAIN..
WHY ARE ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES ON THE HIT LIST EXCEPT THE COUNTRY THAT ATTACKED US?
I WILL LET YOU REPLY AND THEN I WILL LIST THE FACTS.
posted on July 26, 2003 12:59:39 PM new
Shhhh bigcity! Most of the right has vanished in disgrace from here. News like this could make the remaining 2 or 3 go psychotic.
posted on July 26, 2003 01:15:14 PM new
Ok since you cant answer the question Ill just go ahead and tell you. Here is why all this is happening...
The Project for the New American Century.
The People versus the Powerful is the oldest story in human history. At no
point in history have the Powerful wielded so much control. At no point in
history has the active and informed involvement of the People, all of them,
been more absolutely required.
The Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, is a Washington-based
think tank created in 1997. Above all else, PNAC desires and demands one
thing: The establishment of a global American empire to bend the will of
all nations. They chafe at the idea that the United States, the last
remaining superpower, does not do more by way of economic and military
force to bring the rest of the world under the umbrella of a new
socio-economic Pax Americana.
The fundamental essence of PNAC's ideology can be found in a White Paper
produced in September of 2000 entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses:
Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century." In it, PNAC outlines
what is required of America to create the global empire they envision.
According to PNAC, America must:
* Reposition permanently based forces to Southern Europe, Southeast Asia
and the Middle East;
* Modernize U.S. forces, including enhancing our fighter aircraft,
submarine and surface fleet capabilities;
* Develop and deploy a global missile defense system, and develop a
strategic dominance of space;
* Control the "International Commons" of cyberspace;
* Increase defense spending to a minimum of 3.8 percent of gross domestic
product, up from the 3 percent currently spent.
Most ominously, this PNAC document described four "Core Missions" for the
American military. The two central requirements are for American forces to
"fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars," and
to "perform the 'constabulary' duties associated with shaping the security
environment in critical regions." Note well that PNAC does not want America
to be prepared to fight simultaneous major wars. That is old school. In
order to bring this plan to fruition, the military must fight these wars
one way or the other to establish American dominance for all to see.
Why is this important? After all, wacky think tanks are a cottage industry
in Washington, DC. They are a dime a dozen. In what way does PNAC stand
above the other groups that would set American foreign policy if they could?
Two events brought PNAC into the mainstream of American government: the
disputed election of George W. Bush, and the attacks of September 11th.
When Bush assumed the Presidency, the men who created and nurtured the
imperial dreams of PNAC became the men who run the Pentagon, the Defense
Department and the White House. When the Towers came down, these men saw,
at long last, their chance to turn their White Papers into substantive
policy.
Vice President Dick Cheney is a founding member of PNAC, along with Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Defense Policy Board chairman Richard Perle.
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz is the ideological father of the
group. Bruce Jackson, a PNAC director, served as a Pentagon official for
Ronald Reagan before leaving government service to take a leading position
with the weapons manufacturer Lockheed Martin.
PNAC is staffed by men who previously served with groups like Friends of
the Democratic Center in Central America, which supported America's bloody
gamesmanship in Nicaragua and El Salvador, and with groups like The
Committee for the Present Danger, which spent years advocating that a
nuclear war with the Soviet Union was "winnable."
PNAC has recently given birth to a new group, The Committee for the
Liberation of Iraq, which met with National Security Advisor Condoleezza
Rice in order to formulate a plan to "educate" the American populace about
the need for war in Iraq. CLI has funneled millions of taxpayer dollars to
support the Iraqi National Congress and the Iraqi heir presumptive, Ahmed
Chalabi. Chalabi was sentenced in absentia by a Jordanian court in 1992 to
22 years in prison for bank fraud after the collapse of Petra Bank, which
he founded in 1977. Chalabi has not set foot in Iraq since 1956, but his
Enron-like business credentials apparently make him a good match for the
Bush administration's plans.
PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" report is the institutionalization
of plans and ideologies that have been formulated for decades by the men
currently running American government. The PNAC Statement of Principles is
signed by Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld, as well as by Eliot Abrams, Jeb
Bush, Bush's special envoy to Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad, and many
others. William Kristol, famed conservative writer for the Weekly Standard,
is also a co-founder of the group. The Weekly Standard is owned by Ruppert
Murdoch, who also owns international media giant Fox News.
The desire for these freshly empowered PNAC men to extend American hegemony
by force of arms across the globe has been there since day one of the Bush
administration, and is in no small part a central reason for the Florida
electoral battle in 2000. Note that while many have said that Gore and Bush
are ideologically identical, Mr. Gore had no ties whatsoever to the fellows
at PNAC. George W. Bush had to win that election by any means necessary,
and PNAC signatory Jeb Bush was in the perfect position to ensure the rise
to prominence of his fellow imperialists. Desire for such action, however,
is by no means translatable into workable policy. Americans enjoy their
comforts, but don't cotton to the idea of being some sort of Neo-Rome.
On September 11th, the fellows from PNAC saw a door of opportunity open
wide before them, and stormed right through it.
Bush released on September 20th 2001 the "National Security Strategy of the
United States of America." It is an ideological match to PNAC's "Rebuilding
America's Defenses" report issued a year earlier. In many places, it uses
exactly the same language to describe America's new place in the world.
Recall that PNAC demanded an increase in defense spending to at least 3.8%
of GDP. Bush's proposed budget for next year asks for $379 billion in
defense spending, almost exactly 3.8% of GDP.
In August of 2002, Defense Policy Board chairman and PNAC member Richard
Perle heard a policy briefing from a think tank associated with the Rand
Corporation. According to the Washington Post and The Nation, the final
slide of this presentation described "Iraq as the tactical pivot, Saudi
Arabia as the strategic pivot, and Egypt as the prize" in a war that would
purportedly be about ridding the world of Saddam Hussein's weapons. Bush
has deployed massive forces into the Mideast region, while simultaneously
engaging American forces in the Philippines and playing nuclear chicken
with North Korea. Somewhere in all this lurks at least one of the "major
theater wars" desired by the September 2000 PNAC report.
Iraq is but the beginning, a pretense for a wider conflict. Donald Kagan, a
central member of PNAC, sees America establishing permanent military bases
in Iraq after the war. This is purportedly a measure to defend the peace in
the Middle East, and to make sure the oil flows. The nations in that
region, however, will see this for what it is: a jump-off point for
American forces to invade any nation in that region they choose to. The
American people, anxiously awaiting some sort of exit plan after America
defeats Iraq, will see too late that no exit is planned.
All of the horses are traveling together at speed here. The defense
contractors who sup on American tax revenue will be handsomely paid for
arming this new American empire. The corporations that own the news media
will sell this eternal war at a profit, as viewership goes through the
stratosphere when there is combat to be shown. Those within the
administration who believe that the defense of Israel is contingent upon
laying waste to every possible aggressor in the region will have their
dreams fulfilled. The PNAC men who wish for a global Pax Americana at
gunpoint will see their plans unfold. Through it all, the bankrollers from
the WTO and the IMF will be able to dictate financial terms to the entire
planet. This last aspect of the plan is pivotal, and is best described in
the newly revised version of Greg Palast's masterpiece, "The Best Democracy
Money Can Buy."
There will be adverse side effects. The siege mentality average Americans
are suffering as they smother behind yards of plastic sheeting and duct
tape will increase by orders of magnitude as our aggressions bring forth
new terrorist attacks against the homeland. These attacks will require the
implementation of the newly drafted Patriot Act II, an augmentation of the
previous Act that has profoundly sharper teeth. The sun will set on the
Constitution and Bill of Rights.
The American economy will be ravaged by the need for increased defense
spending, and by the aforementioned "constabulary" duties in Iraq,
Afghanistan and elsewhere. Former allies will turn on us. Germany, France
and the other nations resisting this Iraq war are fully aware of this game
plan. They are not acting out of cowardice or because they love Saddam
Hussein, but because they mean to resist this rising American empire, lest
they face economic and military serfdom at the hands of George W. Bush.
Richard Perle has already stated that France is no longer an American ally.
As the eagle spreads its wings, our rhetoric and their resistance will
become more agitated and dangerous.
Many people, of course, will die. They will die from war and from want,
from famine and disease. At home, the social fabric will be torn in ways
that make the Reagan nightmares of crack addiction, homelessness and AIDS
seem tame by comparison.
This is the price to be paid for empire, and the men of PNAC who now
control the fate and future of America are more than willing to pay it. For
them, the benefits far outweigh the liabilities.
The plan was running smoothly until those two icebergs collided. Millions
and millions of ordinary people are making it very difficult for Bush's
international allies to keep to the script. PNAC may have designs for the
control of the "International Commons" of the Internet, but for now it is
the staging ground for a movement that would see empire take a back seat to
a wise peace, human rights, equal protection under the law, and the
preponderance of a justice that will, if properly applied, do away forever
with the anger and hatred that gives birth to terrorism in the first place.
Tommaso Palladini of Milan perhaps said it best as he marched with his
countrymen in Rome. "You fight terrorism," he said, "by creating more
justice in the world."
The People versus the Powerful is the oldest story in human history. At no
point in history have the Powerful wielded so much control. At no point in
history has the active and informed involvement of the People, all of them,
been more absolutely required. The tide can be stopped, and the men who
desire empire by the sword can be thwarted. It has already begun, but it
must not cease. These are men of will, and they do not intend to fail.
William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times bestselling author of two books -
"War On Iraq" (with Scott Ritter) available now from Context Books, and
"The Greatest Sedition is Silence," available in May 2003 from Pluto Press.
He teaches high school in Boston, MA.
Scott Lowery contributed research to this report.
posted on July 26, 2003 01:17:53 PM new
Heres more..
Project for the New American Century (PNAC): Cheney's Monstrous Scheme
By Mary Louise
The blueprint for our current foreign policy was being written back in 1992 by then-Defense Secretary, Dick Cheney. His writings set out a new doctrine that called for U.S. power in the twentieth century, to be that of an aggressive and unilateral approach that would secure American dominance of world affairs by force if necessary. This "peace through strength" policy has been unfolding from the day Bush, Jr. took office; the strategic planning of it was done during the Clinton administration with funding from the military-industrial
complex, energy companies, and right-wing foundations. Over time, those working on these new plans evolved into PNAC, established in 1997 with members Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz at the helm. May God help us!
In September 2000, the PNAC updated and refined Cheney's original version into a new report entitled: "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources for a New Century" calling for unprecedented hikes in military spending, American military bases in Central Asia and Middle East, toppling of non-complying regimes, abrogation of international treaties, control of the world's energy sources, militarization of outer space, total control of cyberspace, and the willingness to use nuclear weapons to achieve "American" goals. This plan by the neo-conservative or neo-con think tank, PNAC, shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power and says the U.S. for decades has sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security, revealing that a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure a regime change was planned even before Bush took power in January, 2001. The lengthy blueprint for U.S. global domination can be accessed at http://cryptome.org/rad.htm.
In order to truly understand how despicable and repulsive Cheney and his schemes actually are, we must revisit the past before we continue. A CFR member; Cheney was Chief of Staff to Gerald Ford, Secretary of Defense to George Herbert Bush, and Wyoming's only Congressman. There is a hunting lodge near Greybull, Wyoming where Dickie Dearest was obsessed with "A Most Dangerous Game" (human hunting) and addicted to the thrill of the sport of traumatizing his victims while satisfying his sick perversions. Although this "game" was devised to condition military personnel in survival and combat maneuvers, it was used on Cathy O'Brien and other slaves as a means to further conditioning of the mind to the realization there was no place to hide, as well as traumatization for ensuing programming. According to Cathy, this game had numerous variations on the primary theme of being stripped of clothing, turned loose in wilderness areas which were enclosed in secure military fencing, and hunted by men and dogs until caught, raped, and tortured. This is our Vice President! (Editors note - we'd like to make it clear that these allegations are just that, allegations, and are not proven by anything more than testimony).
There is much more to Cathy's sad but true story of being a CIA mind-controlled slave that she has so bravely informed us of on http://www.trance-formation.org/index2.htm. Read for yourself about The Most Dangerous Game, Project Monarch, and A Most Dangerous Game Revisited which sheds light on the wicked pastimes of Bush, Jr. and Daddy Bush. Warning: the content will make you furious and ill, but at least you will know the hidden, dark, dreadful, and hideous side of these monsters who have seized power according to their plan. As a group who serve only the prince of darkness and themselves, they are without a doubt the biggest terrorists of all. Woe to those who call good, evil and evil, good.
We are witnessing the Trance-Formation of our great Country from one that stood for freedom, justice, refuge from oppression, and an opportunity for a better life based on principles worth dying for (as many did), to the new emerging American Empire reminiscent of the Roman Empire. The movies "The Fall of the Roman Empire" and "Quo Vadis" with Robert Taylor and Peter Ustinov are definitely worth watching. It is difficult for the average, decent person to imagine or believe what unscrupulous and ruthless people do and how they think. Americans need to ask the hard questions that the press usually avoid, and connect the dots for themselves. If we are told to jump off a cliff, should we do it? Of course not. But if we do not stand up for what is good, lovely, and true we will surely be dragged along down the long and dark, shameful corridors of time reserved for those who possess power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight. We must diligently question and resist the immorality of this new policy of endless war with an endless budget, provided for by putting the squeeze on hardworking taxpayers who are also expected to sacrifice their own cherished offspring as toy soldiers in their end wargame, on the altar of bloody sacrifices. World politics are a chessboard upon which tyrants insanely intoxicated with power, play people like pawns of the game.
Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer recently wrote, " The fact is no country has been as dominant culturally, economically, technologically, and militarily in the history of the world since the Roman Empire." He is one of the voices or opinion leaders demanding pre-emptive action, calling for the USA to reject its Constitutional heritage proclaiming itself the heir to the Roman Empire and who is part of a small but well financed policy faction calling themselves neo-conservatives. How does that grab you? The New American Empire or Pax-Americana, a world order enforced by U.S. power controlled by Cheney and the gang, who make the Mafia and the Roman Empire look like altar boys. Cheney and Bush's doctrine essentially declares that anyone who gets in the way will suffer the threatened consequences. This strategy of permanent war abroad, will result in a permanent domestic state of emergency which means a permanent state of siege for all Americans. In this devilish pursuit of world conquest in the name of U.S. interests, Bush is acting under strategic policy that demands the continuous demonstration of a universal American "right" to impose its will on Planet Earth.
Mankind's ability to see is in decline, as part of the de-sensitizing conditioning that has been perpetrated upon us. People in this changing world landscape, need to regain the capacity to perceive the visible reality as it actually is. Because there is so much to see, something like visual noise makes clear perception near impossible when our lives are in fast forward to a warp-speed operational tempo that offers no opportunity for reflection. With media manipulation and perception management at work, those who cannot see reality are also unable to hear correctly, therefore falling prey to the demagogical spells, sophistries, and pandering of any powers that be. Deeper comprehension or cognition is required for sharper discernment. Our essence of inner richness as spiritual beings, is the ability to grasp reality with intense awareness. Human nature itself is threatened and the integrity of human existence is directly endangered. There are no technical solutions to moral problems; when a country ceases to be good, it ceases to be great.
PNAC, the monsterchild of Dick Cheney speaks with forked tongue regarding the "new manifest destiny of the new American frontier" to disseminate our liberty and values. The Bush administration has brazenly launched an all-out assault against our civil liberties using fear tactics while trying to hide the fact that weapons were supplied by the U.S. to our "enemies". Tam Dalywell of the House of Commons had this to say, "This is garbage from right-wing think tanks stuffed with chickenhawks, men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war. Men like Cheney, who were draft-dodgers in the Vietnam war." Cheney is depicted in the related following animated satire that is a spin-off of the Twilight Zone called the No-Fly Zone: http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/shockwave/chickenhawks.htm
The PNAC intends to explain what world leadership entails through issue briefs, advocacy journalism, conferences, and seminars. Also, the "Committee for the Liberation of Iraq" is setting up offices on Capitol Hill, which appears to be a front group spin-off from PNAC and its mission statement is to replace the Saddam Hussein regime with a democratic government, engaging in educational and advocacy efforts to mobilize the U.S. and international support for their policies. The Project for a New American Century, www.newamericancentury.org, is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project (501c3).
posted on July 26, 2003 01:49:38 PM new
Should I decide that it's too dangerous to stay above ground until the elections in 2004, will someone come find me when Bush and his band of jackasses are gone? Just kidding. With Bush at the helm I don't think any place is safe. Didn't I read somewhere that Bush's family has business dealings with the Saudis? Somehow this report doesn't surprise me. It disgusts me, but doesn't surprise me.
You'll only find two or three (maybe four) Bush supporters vehemently coming to his rescue. Used to be so many more. Maybe they've all gone underground because they know something we don't?
Thanks for the articles.
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Jul 26, 2003 01:49 PM ]
posted on July 28, 2003 10:51:25 AM new
To my knowledge there is no absolute proof as to the government or the country of Saudi Arabia to be responsible, directly or indirectly, for 9/11.
Yes, there were Saudis among the 9/11 terrorists, but no official proof that the country itself was involved.
Please correct me if I am wrong. From my knowledge, there are allegations, but no absolute proof.
If a handful of Americans do something as horrific abroad or in country, doesn't necessarily reflect on America as a whole.
posted on July 28, 2003 11:00:47 AM new
Talk about rose colored glasses. The redacted section of the 9/11 report directly links the financing of the Saudi 15 to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. This administration more than others has been in bed with the Saudis both politically and personally partnering with them in many ventures.
posted on July 28, 2003 07:52:24 PM new
Isnt that the same thing the administration did with Noregia and the sandiniestias? <sp>
And then with Kaddaffey<sp> and Libya?
posted on July 29, 2003 06:25:24 AM new
Clarksville...
Where have you been? The Saudi kingdom FUNDED the terrorists! paid for their training, living, hiding EVERYTHING! That is the part the Bush Regime wants hidden...to protect their best Buddies.
EVEN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION ADMITS TO THAT PART!! Remember them? Your Gods and heroes? Rummy-boy? Cheney? GW Bush? Wolfowitz? Etc.?
posted on July 29, 2003 12:17:08 PM new
The report that says what the president knew, when he knew it, and what he did about it are also being kept classified.(Daily Briefing).
Im still waiting for the attention span lacking American people to connect the dots. I dont think they are catching on. All it takes is common sense. The NEO CONS have a strong hold on their minds. I have never seen manipulation and deception at this level before. This is a sad time for America indeed.
If people cant wake up from their slumber before the elections then they deserve everything thats coming to them.
posted on July 29, 2003 01:15:38 PM new"If people cant wake up from their slumber before the elections then they deserve everything thats coming to them."
