posted on September 6, 2003 07:47:04 PM new
This last week when I found out about her $1M book deal, I thought it would be published/released next year. According to this piece, it's due out in November of this year! I think it's odd that it's coming out so soon.
posted on September 6, 2003 08:19:12 PM new
No I won't buy the book. I might go the library and check it out...
In some ways I see the father's point of view, however I didn't hear that she asked for the deal. It was offerd and she took it... We are the ones who create heroes and only time will tell about this.
posted on September 6, 2003 09:29:15 PM new
It doesn't surprise me that the book will be out so quickly. That's the way they all seem to do....get the money while the gettin's good.
I really do feel for the father of the soldier that was killed when Jessica was injured....but I think he's going a little over board with what he said.
No, I won't be buying the book. The most interesting parts will be all over the press shortly after the book is out.
The person she chose to do the writing of her book has disgraced himself....like quite a few seem to be doing lately at the New York Times. Even democrats who have subscribed to it for years are complaining about all the 'untruths' they've had to admit to printing recently....and then they follow up with a 'correction' two to three weeks later.
posted on September 7, 2003 06:50:01 AM new
No, I will not buy the book simply because I don't want to be reminded again of the sensationalized account of her story.
I wish her well though. In her position, I would very generously share the proceeds of that book.
posted on September 7, 2003 10:19:46 AM new
"That she makes money off the death of my son and off the deaths of so many others."
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"Now, she's a profiteer because what she did was in the line of duty."
Oh please. Where does it end? How many millions died in WWII? Does that make all the Hollywood people who ever made a WWII movie profitters?
I sell video games based on WWII and Vietnam. I was 5 years old when Vietnam ended. Am I a profiteer?
It's unfortunate that those others died, and I do feel her story has been way oversensationalized. But it is her story to tell. If the soldiers who helped rescue her write a book, that's fine for them too. The dead ones aren't going to write books, but there isn't much that can be done about that.
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posted on September 7, 2003 03:09:33 PM new
Thanks to all for your responses.
Once again, Linda thanks for the link.
For some reason, this scenerio reminds me of the movie of a woman (played by Meg Ryan) who was up for the Congressional Medal of Honor. "Courage Under Fire" There were men who thought a woman shouldn't be fighting. BTW there hasn't been a woman YET who has received the Congressional Medal of Honor.
I don't think we haven't really heard from Lynch, just from secondhand. I think I will check the book out at the library and read it myself to see what she has to say.
I did a search on eBay and found an auction that was putting Lynch in the same group with York, which I don't agree.
I compare her to past and present male and female military servicemembers who have endured in similar or worse conditions, under our enemies and otherwise.
If she is being used as a tool to promote women in the service, it reminds me of the gal who unsuccessfully tried to get into that military academy. She got in on her second attempt, but dropped out in her first year. This broke the ice for the women who followed her.
Linda, I think that the author will not help to prevent the integrity damage.
I think the eBay auctions tarnish what "heroes" are. Talk about making a profit on the Lynch rescue. So can we really blame her for getting her cut?
posted on September 7, 2003 03:45:39 PM new
Before I condemn her actions on the book deal, I want to read her account of the action & see what she does with the money.
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
posted on September 7, 2003 07:57:13 PM new
Most of the build up on Jessica Lynch came from the left & right of the political movement. Both wanted a G.I. Jane hero of heroes so bad, they were ready to add to any part of it making it true. With the Pvt. Lynch not being the G.I. Jane action hero they wanted, they threw her away as they do all good soldiers.
Those of this war who came home a month ago received a hero's welcome. Now the political RT & LT use those returning and those remaining as political pawns to advance their own political agenda. AS they did in Vietnam
Military planning, is to plan for the worst & hope for the best. Lets say this happened during the rescue. A battle took place Doctors, patients & Pvt. Were Killed during the rescue. The left of the political movement would have had a manure hemorrhage.
With the camera they have a recording of it.
The rescue of Pvt. Lynch & the bodies of military dead was done swift & correct without being "sensationalized ". As always the action and reason has been forgotten.
The reason & action has now become a political Football of who, what, were, when & why.
There is not one person alive today that has not been a profiteer on the backs of all soldiers.
The medical area is just one. Should all Medical surgeons and most doctors "generously" share the proceeds from their valuable experience & training as the result of war & those that have received benefits of it, also do the same?. Hell no! they would not..
The list so long I could not go through it in my life time of what profession from Ditch Digger to what ever hasn't,t road on the back of a brave soldier.
I can not speak on the validity of other wars. In Vietnam one thing sure we had was an abundance of volunteer Doctor's & Nurses.
Does anyone know what Channeling Memo" of 7-1965 has to do with the selective service or the King agreement between Pres. Johnson and his Standing order to the US. Military during Vietnam?. It is still active in this war & should draft ever happen, so is Channeling Memo 7-1965.
John Kerry has a Purple Heart & a Bronze Star. His wife made him sign prenuptial. Pvt Lynch has a Purple Heart, Bronze Star & POW Metal. I wounder who will be the biggest profiteer. Pvt. Lynch or Kerry & the rest of the Democratic 8. I do mean 8
I forgot Kerry, pitched his in the River. But then I thought I saw them in his office. No wonder his wife had him to sign a prenuptial.
posted on September 7, 2003 08:28:37 PM new
As for the college students being exempt from the draft, the students had to maintain either 12 or 16 credit, I can't remember anymore.
So a kid working and going to school, it was hard. So they had no choice but to either join or slip to Canada.
Now we have (actually for the last twenty years) people going in to get their college education and are shocked when they have to actually do some soldiering.
posted on September 7, 2003 09:19:09 PM new
clarksville, you are right . That is why the democrats would like see the draft again.
The King & Pres. Johnson agreement was to keep people of color out of combat, if deaths went above the national population average, which at the time was 11%. In 1966 the death rate was 20%. People of color were removed from combat when needed to keep the death rate at 11%. At the end of the war it was at 10.5%
posted on September 7, 2003 10:22:59 PM new
Alot of things about the military has changed since the end of Nam. It will be interesting to see what happens.
It is more acceptable to avoid the draft.
Women and other minorities in the military are now on equal basis with the white male counterparts.
Matter of fact there are more high ranking minorities than ever before.
More civilians are now advancing their education then ever before in modern history. So they will have to require more of the students to be eligible for the draft.
Farmers will probably be eligible as well.
If all fails, since I doubt the military will allow homosexuals to be out and proud, a lot of men and women will claim to be be homosexuals.
Or do what Gene Kelly did in a movie I saw just recently and slam their hands in a truck lid (or was it a door?) so they don't have to serve. I can't remember the name of the movie. It had Judy Garland it.
When new LTs right out of OCS and college would show up in country (Nam), they thought they knew more than the SGTS. It didn't take long before they would wise up and listen to the SGTs. <wink>
In recent years, the Army required the women to have high school education to join. While their male counterparts were NOT.
In the late 70s women were NOT required to have a high shool education to join.
Then in the 80s, both men and women were required to have hs ed.
Not sure what they did with the established soldiers who didn't have a hs ed. They may have been "homesteaded" or required (or even "encouraged" by means of tools such as promotion requirements) to seek a GED through their base education system.
In the early 80s, the Army did weed out the soldiers that had "profiles" from combat and even non-combat injuries. Yeah, that's the thanks they got.
The Army was leaning towards college educated soldiers rather than the combat educated soldiers, which at that time were Nam Vets.
Now who would you want? A college educated soldier who never saw combat or a combat experienced soldier fighting alongside you?
So, the memo would need to be revised to meet the modern military. Could it happen? Sure. But I don't think it would go very far due to our communications systems and networking that we have today, particularly with the internet.
During Nam, the news had taped coverage of the war, now we can and do watch wars live.
posted on September 8, 2003 07:39:20 AM new"Now who would you want? A college educated soldier who never saw combat or a combat experienced soldier fighting alongside you?"
Easy answer...A college educated soldier!
Aren't all officers college educated?
FYI: There are Commissioned Officers and then there are Warrant Officers. Not all officers have college education. I don't about now, but decades ago, WO's weren't required to have college education. Matter of fact, in the history of the military, not all CO's were required to have college under their belts. During war, with people getting killed, some enlisted were field promoted to officer status.
Matter of fact, (correct me if I am wrong, Civil War buffs) during the Civil War anyone with big bucks could give themselves an officer rank and have their own military company.
Edited to add:
A person can have a college education and then they can have a college education. Question is whether or not the education has subsist that will help in combat?
Sgt York didn't have college education. I would put my life in his hands over a college student who studied the fine world of art.
