BEAR1949
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posted on October 14, 2003 03:35:20 PM new
Poll suggests most in Baghdad don't want troops to leave too quickly
WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
Monday, October 13, 2003
(10-13) 22:29 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --
When Gallup set out recently to poll Baghdad residents, the biggest surprise may have been the public's reaction to the questioners: Almost everyone responded to the pollsters' questions, with some pleading for a chance to give their opinions.
"The interviews took more than an hour to do, people were extremely cooperative with open-ended questions," said Richard Burkholder, director of international polling for Gallup. "People went on and on."
But many of those Iraqis still have sharply mixed feelings about the U.S. military presence.
The Gallup poll found that 71 percent of the capital city's residents felt U.S. troops should not leave in the next few months. Just 26 percent felt the troops should leave that soon.
However, a sizable minority felt that circumstances could occur in which attacks against the troops could be justified. Almost one in five, 19 percent, said attacks could be justified, and an additional 17 percent said they could be in some situations.
These mixed feelings in Baghdad come at a time when many in the United States are urging that the troops be brought home soon.
Almost six in 10 in the poll, 58 percent, said that U.S. troops in Baghdad have behaved fairly well or very well, with one in 10 saying "very well." Twenty 20 percent said the troops have behaved fairly badly and 9 percent said very badly.
Gallup, one of the nation's best-known polling operations, hired more than 40 questioners, mostly Iraqi citizens directed by survey managers who have helped with other Gallup polling in Arab countries. Respondents were told the poll was being done for media both in Iraq and outside their country, but no mention was made that the American polling firm was running it.
To conduct the poll, Gallup did interviews face-to-face in people's homes chosen at random from all geographic sectors of the city, and more than nine in 10 agreed to participate, at least double the response rate for many U.S. telephone polls. Pollsters in the United States have an increasingly difficult time getting cooperation from people called on the phone.
"This is the way we did polling in the United States before telephone ownership got to the point that we could do reliable phone surveys," Burkholder said in an interview with The Associated Press. The poll of 1,178 adults was taken between Aug. 28 and Sept. 4 and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Burkholder said Gallup plans to do further polling in Baghdad in coming months and hopes eventually to expand throughout Iraq. Gallup plans to release much of the data through its subscription service, the Gallup Poll Tuesday Briefing.
Gallup started its operation in Baghdad because it felt Baghdad would have the lowest security risks after the war, but that hasn't turned out to be the case, Burkholder said. Six in 10 Baghdad residents said that within the past four weeks they had been afraid at times to go outside their homes during the day.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/10/13/national0129EDT0417.DTL
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Linda_K
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posted on October 14, 2003 05:25:15 PM new
I'd read that too, bear.
Recently President Bush said something along the line of 'the media is only reporting what's going wrong, not all that is going right'.
Like all media one rarely here's a ton of good news reported....too boring. But boy they've got a list of everything that's going wrong everywhere and with everyone.
And most news has a liberal slant to it. Anyone can read the words of a 'news story' and hear how the writers are doing more 'op-ed news' rather than just reporting the facts.
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Helenjw
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posted on October 14, 2003 05:34:05 PM new
Republicans are anxious for peace in Iraq so that they can make a fast profit for a change.
Tompie Hall a Texas Republican businessman trying to get a piece of the Iraqi reconstruction action.
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miscreant
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posted on October 14, 2003 05:56:53 PM new
Umm. Just in Bagdad. Why not send the pollsters to interview some of the majority Shiites in the south and not just in Bagdad were mostly the minority Suniis live. What a useless poll. That would be like taking a poll in Atlanta to see how the rest of the country thought.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:17:37 PM new
It's NOT just in Baghdad. I've posted several links to news reports showing different areas where things have settled down. People are getting on with their lives. People are glad the US removed Saddam. This isn't an isolated report.
And President Bush is working with Turkey who has promised to send [ I believe 10,000] troops to Southern Iraq where the Shities are. Thinking they might better identify with them than with US or UK soldiers.
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miscreant
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:21:21 PM new
That article above starts When Gallup set out recently to poll Baghdad residents or does another fact get in the way of your message. This is about the above useless poll.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:23:50 PM new
Republicans are anxious for peace in Iraq
Yes, and I would like to think that MOST democrats were also anxious for peace in Iraq.
But I sure don't expect it from people like you who appear to jump for joy everytime they can find an article where their country is meeting challenges. Can't wait to list each and every new death. Like....yeah yeah...fail....if we fail it will make Bush look bad.
sad, helen. very sad.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:26:54 PM new
miscreant - Maybe you should go to the Gallup site and read what they are doing. This is NOT a one time report in Iraq. It is an ongoing poll.
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miscreant
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:27:04 PM new
And President Bush is working with Turkey who has promised to send [ I believe 10,000] troops to Southern Iraq where the Shities are. Thinking they might better identify with them than with US or UK soldiers.
Wonderful. The dummy wants to send Sunii troops into Shiite territory. The Shiites hate Suniis. All this President will do it set up yet another radical Moslem state when this is over. The Shiites are 70% of the country.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:31:37 PM new
My point was that troops from other than the US are sent to places in Iraq when things have been relative calm and under control there. The US soldiers take the brunt of the hot spots.
and miscreant, I wouldn't expect anything this President would/could ever do would please you. Bet he doesn't care....and neither do I.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:35:48 PM new
Linda, if Iraq were to hand over Saddam tomorrow and give the US 100 billion dollars to help pay for their liberation, Helen, miscreant and the rest of the anti-amercians would find something wrong... they thrive on anarchy... let 'em talk, they have no more "facts" than they claim we don't have.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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miscreant
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:37:41 PM new
Can't wait to list each and every new death. Like....yeah yeah...fail....if we fail it will make Bush look bad
I do not want one more death in Iraq. There have already been too many. I did support removing Saddam but did not hold out for much hope that it would get Saddam or make the Iraqies our allies.
The first thing the troops secured in Iraq was the oil fields. Big surprise. And with Franks in charge you just knew Saddam would get away.
Again you try to pin something horrible like soldier deaths on the Left. We are not causing them nor do we celebrate them. We ask that they try to be prevented or stopped. And that is a bad thing to you?
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Linda_K
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:42:48 PM new
twelvepole - they thrive on anarchy....you are sooooooo correct.
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miscreant - The oil fields were secured first BECAUSE they were what Saddam set on fire during the last war. They burned for years causing illness to all INCLUDING OUR SOLDIERS.
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miscreant
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:49:37 PM new
Helen, miscreant and the rest of the anti-amercians would find something wrong... they thrive on anarchy... let 'em talk, they have no more "facts" than they claim we don't have
Trying to use the old tired anti- American argument huh? If your argument is weak by all means throw the anti-American label on your opponent.
The extreme right is totaly anti-American. The domestic terrorism of the last 10 years is by far coming from the right. From the bombing of clinics to the Morrow building to the bombing of the Olympics to the anthrax scare. All from your buddies on the right.
So please do not hang anti-American on me. I have lost a lot in wars I did support and wars I did not. I would die for this country and did offer to at times. But I will not support a war started for greed by a pretend president.
I would think a bigot would be much more anti-American
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 14, 2003 06:50:39 PM new
\Mis"cre*ant\, a.
1. Holding a false religious faith.
2.Destitute of conscience; unscrupulous
'nuff said...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 14, 2003 07:00:55 PM new
liar liar pants on fire....
miscreant, if lying paid off as well you and others seem to think, you and your crowd would be rich...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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miscreant
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posted on October 14, 2003 07:03:20 PM new
The oil fields were secured first BECAUSE they were what Saddam set on fire during the last war. They burned for years causing illness to all INCLUDING OUR SOLDIERS.
Nice try at the republican propoganda. Too bas the Army for years denied it got anybody sick. They weren't burned this time and those were Kuwatii fields that burned last time.
\Mis"cre*ant\, a.
1. Holding a false religious faith.
2.Destitute of conscience; unscrupulous
As usual a righty leaves out a fact
3.(archaic)
an unbeliever or heretic
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miscreant
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posted on October 14, 2003 07:05:36 PM new
miscreant, if lying paid off as well you and others seem to think, you and your crowd would be rich...
It does pay off well. The Republicans represent the rich.
[ edited by miscreant on Oct 14, 2003 07:13 PM ]
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 15, 2003 03:22:49 AM new
Archaic, yep that sure would sum you up nicely miscreant... leave it to you and your ilk to take a meaning from centuries past. I like to live here in the 21st Century...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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miscreant
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posted on October 15, 2003 06:57:06 AM new
I like to live here in the 21st Century
But with ideas from the 19th century.
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austbounty
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posted on October 15, 2003 08:22:02 AM new
Latest news from Australian ABC is that Bagdad hospital Emergency has 1 Wheelchair & 1 Draw (normal desk size draw) of drugs for the entire hospital.
[ edited by austbounty on Oct 15, 2003 08:23 AM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on October 15, 2003 08:42:02 AM new
More on Baghdad Hospital
Since the end of the war, about 60 people a night arrive here, more than half bleeding from bullet or knife wounds. Before the war, about one person a week with such an injury was treated at this hospital, built in the 1950s and showing its age in the cracked linoleum floors and chalky paint.
Blood had spilled on the floors, blood soaked the beds, blood stained the hands and forearms and brows of the doctors and nurses, and its literal meaning was that Baghdad was a much more dangerous place than before the war.
"We don't have enough scalpels," said Majeed. "Sometimes we send patients to another hospital because we don't have enough oxygen, and they get sent back here because there is no oxygen where we send them."
"When the Americans came, I swear by God we were happy," she said. "They said things would be better. How are they better? Where are they better?
"There is no order. There are no drugs and no machines to help my son."
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BEAR1949
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posted on October 15, 2003 10:29:23 AM new
[i]I like to live here in the 21st Century
But with ideas from the 19th century[/i]
And you head in the dirt of the 17th Century
"Another plague upon the land, as devastating as the locusts God loosed on the Egyptians, is "Political Correctness.'" --Charlton Heston
[ edited by BEAR1949 on Oct 15, 2003 10:30 AM ]
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miscreant
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posted on October 15, 2003 04:43:15 PM new
And you head in the dirt of the 17th Century
Ahh. Another person of a neolithic culture speaks.
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austbounty
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posted on October 15, 2003 05:41:37 PM new
Heston
“those wise old dead WHITE guys”.
& believes that America’s “high mixed ethnicity” is at fault for the high incidence of murder.
Even 12pole called him "... a man with alzheimers..."
June 23, 2003 12:47:26 PM
Bear: Are you now or have you ever been a member of the KKK?
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