posted on October 30, 2003 09:00:18 PM new
The U.S. Government Lied To You
by Michael Rivero --- Source: www.InformationTimes.com
It cannot be denied any more, the government [Bush-Cheney Junta] lied to you to start a war of conquest. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. George W. Bush, [Donald H. Rumsfeld] and Colin L. Powell, etc., knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Powell knew he was lying to the United Nations. Tony Blair has been outed for ordering re-writes of the Dossier to help Bush with the lie.
All those who questioned the lie were right to do so. Chretien was right. Schroeder was right. Chirac was right. Blix was right. Michael Douglas was right. Michael Moore was right. Tim Robbins was right. Susan Sarandon was right. Sean Penn was right. Bob Graham was right. Cynthia McKinney was right. Jeff Rense was right. Daniel Hopsicker was right. Justin Raymondo was right. I was right and the millions of activists that marched in the streets around the world were right. There was valid reason to doubt.
Those who believed the lie and promoted it, they were all wrong to the point of complicity. Blair was wrong. Rush Limbaugh was wrong. Jim Robinson was wrong. O'Reilly (who recently stated that anyone who did not agree with him was an idiot) was wrong (and an idiot). Clear Channel was wrong. ABC was wrong. NBC was wrong. CBS was wrong. Fox News was wrong. CNN was wrong. The dozen pro-war activists who made certain they stood between the press cameras and the anti-war activists were wrong. The local news-#*!@ who marched right past an anti-war demonstration to report on one of Clear Channel's staged pro-war events was wrong. And all of those who reviled, smeared and attacked those who have proven hindsight to be right, were wrong.
If you believed the lie about the weapons of mass destruction, then congratulations, you have been made a total fool before the eyes of the rest of the world. Forget "Polock" jokes, the new fashion rage will be "dumb American" jokes. Like the dumb Americans who actually did tape up their houses with sheet plastic and duct tape and nearly suffocated to death. Or the dumb Americans who actually believed Iraq still had a credible military after a decade of crippling sanctions.
Those who were wrong will never admit it, of course. They will scream that those who saw through the lie are just being un-American or unpatriotic. But it is not an act of patriotism to believe the government when it lies to you, it is the act of a fool and a coward, because the government does not have a legal or moral right to lie to the people. Check out the U.S. Constitution. Nowhere in there is the government explicitly granted the authority to lie to the people who pay the costs for all that the government does, good or bad. When a government lies to the people, it acts unconstitutionally and illegally and is no longer the lawful government. It therefore cannot be an act of patriotism to believe the government when it lies. It is the act of a traitor to support the lies of an unlawful government.
The lie about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction changes the rules. The government has lost the benefit of the doubt (for most of us with functioning brains, this actually happened a long time ago). The government can no longer present claims and then act as if it is assumed true. The government cannot place the burden of proof on those who claim that the government lies, because the government now is the proven liar. >From this point on, it is the duty of real Americans to place the burden of proof back on the government. PROVE that Iraq (or Iran or Syria or whoever else is on Israel's target list) has weapons of mass destruction before spending our money and our children's lives on a war.
The lie about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction should change how we view history. The official story of anything can no longer assumed to be true, given that the government is a proven liar. Did Vince Foster really commit suicide? PROVE IT. Were Arab-Muslims behind the attacks of 9-11? PROVE IT. Was the 16th Amendment properly ratified? PROVE IT. Are our elections fair? PROVE IT. All those questions and more must be re-examined, because the word of the U.S. Government is now totally worthless, falling in value faster than the dollar.
Because only a real idiot would assume that this one lie was the only time the government has lied to the people. With this lie exposed, the safe assumption is that the government has been lying all along, about everything.
The real question now is what to do about the lie. I am sure that any parent will tell you that if you catch your child lying and do not punish them, they will simply lie and lie again. The same holds true for the government. The government lies because they know they can get away with it. And this will not change until the people of this nation make the cost of a lie outweigh its advantages. And that means that real Americans, by which I mean thinking citizens and not those useful idiots standing on street corners waving flags paid for by Clear Channel, need to decide to adopt a zero tolerance policy toward lies in government. And that means kicking out any and all government people caught in a lie.
No excuses, no appeal, no bargaining, just throw them out of our government buildings and into the streets in the most humiliating manner possible. One strike and you're out. Period. Look at the taxes you pay and remember that the government is your employee, and that YOU have the right to fire that employee at any time. Lying should be a firing offence. The very first step in getting our nation back is to make government terrified of telling a lie. Now is your chance. The government has been caught lying to you to start a war. People you know died for that lie. Do you have the courage to do something about it?
According to records made available to The Washington Post and interviews with arms investigators from the United States, Britain and Australia, it did not require a comprehensive survey to find the central assertions of the Bush administration's prewar nuclear case to be insubstantial or untrue. Although Hussein did not relinquish his nuclear ambitions or technical records, investigators said, it is now clear he had no active program to build a weapon, produce its key materials or obtain the technology he needed for either.
I think Australia will have a hard time re-building global trust but not as hard as America.
But we’re going to look like US Regime Puppets, and already do.
jumpinjacko
posted on August 26, 2001 08:42:24 PM
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - Afghanistan's hard-line Taliban ruler has banned international aid organizations from using the Internet in a country that has no proper postal service and few working telephones.
Krs
posted on September 4, 2001
http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=112837
Even a limited war, a police action (always loved that phrase), feeds the producers of war materiale in a very big way.
So a war for dumbya, so he can feel as though he's found his glory, so he can obtain reelection, so he can repay, in part, all of those who bought him his chair.
I don't think it's outside the realm of right wing perversity to hatch such a plot.
REAMOND
posted on September 8, 2001
Govt wants inside your computer
http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=113534
krs
posted on September 20, 2001 08:23:52 AM
http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=117692
WASHINGTON (AP) - South Asian, Arab and Muslim Americans
rallied near the Capitol Wednesday, imploring an angry nation to stop
avenging last week's terrorist attacks
This next Post, In Response to above, sounds like BS and pro-war propoganda
bh010296
posted on September 20, 2001 10:57:56 AM
We're having almost the opposite here where I live. I live in a town that has a major university. Many of the Muslim students here have been wearing t-shirts that say on the front "It's only the beginning." On the back is a jihad flag.
Anda again
tiggressoflove
posted on September 21, 2001 10:58:22 AM
I attend Eastern Kentucky University. Our foreign students are mostly Asian, but there are a few middle eastern. Never had any problems with them.
However, some people in my neighborhood are middle eastern. They had an American flag outside until the day of the attack. The day of the attack they tore the flag down in celebration and got drunk, happy about the attack. Made me sick to watch.
They have mysteriously moved out now and no one knows where they've moved to. I don't think they were college students, no one really knew what they did or where they got their money.
takes the bait
stusi
posted on September 21, 2001 07:33:48 PM
bh010296- "students" like those come here for the schooling, the flying lessons, etc. and possibly to learn more about how to assimilate so as to be less conspicuous if they are to do anything subversive.
Play On
Cooltom
posted on September 21, 2001 10:36:44 PM
I'm not up on the teachings of the Koran concerning ornamentation but I assume Allah in his great wisdom would not frown upon a small pin or patiotic ribbon attached to one's tunic. Seen many?
Pump it Up
Pocono
posted on September 27, 2001 06:59:22 AM
Hey lookie at those chicken American. They get fraid to fight us. They want only to talk talk and not walk walk. We bitchslap you again. America. <spit>
I can here it from here...
hjw
posted on September 27, 2001 08:43:01 AM
``I think it can't be stressed enough that everybody who's waiting for military action ... needs to rethink this thing,'' Wolfowitz told a news briefing.
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So, they need more intelligence....that is, if you can believe what they are saying.
Sweet Revenge for all.
gravid
posted on September 25, 2001 06:34:09 PM
Seasons Greetings from the Anglo-American Nuclear Family
HopelessSinner
posted on September 25, 2001 05:53:07 PM
Muriel.. way too funny...
How about this one...
Operation....Jihad..ly wait for our turn
HopelessSinner
posted on September 27, 2001 01:12:21 AM
Operation...Koran but you cant hide
thermionic
posted on September 27, 2001 06:27:52 AM
Operation holy war--Big holes.
zilvy
posted on September 27, 2001 12:20:18 PM
Who'd a thought a letter might do it~"The pen is mightier than the SCUD!"
Now 4 The Cheer Leaders
Linda_K
posted on September 27, 2001 03:59:17 PM
Oh zilvy, thank you. My first real laugh of the day
gravid
posted on October 10, 2001 08:23:15 PM
My Uncle said all the Saudi's spend two thirds of their day phoning each other to keep support for their career and arrange entertainment in the evening for sucking up to whoever can advance them. It is all family and tribe.
Response
krs
posted on October 10, 2001 08:52:56 PM
Not so different after all, are they?
corrdogg
posted on October 10, 2001 05:11:01 PM
Local news in WPB is just reporting that a 3rd person had been found to be contaminated with Anthrax. This is coming out of a televised news confrence in Boca Raton that began at 8 PM. The victim is a woman who does not wish to be identified.
spazmodeus
posted on October 11, 2001 03:36:55 PM
I never liked Rudy Giuliani, but this guy has shown incredible character since the September 11 attack. A real American.
New York mayor rejects Saudi prince's donation
Pump Some More
forgottenchild
posted on October 11, 2001 01:54:41 PM
I just saw on the news that came from the FBI website that they have evidence of more terrorists attacks against us in the next few days. Hope its not true and they were just wrong but in case they're not everyone please be very careful of where you go.
OH NO! In Response
Valleygirl
posted on October 11, 2001 02:12:10 PM
As I was leaving this morning for work, Fox news was reporting that three Pakistani people were arrested inside a New York (I think they said city of Hudson) water treatment plant. They also reported that all three either had forged documents or were invalid documents. I know what I heard. However, I've heard nothing since, nothing on CNN webpage, nothing on FoxNews web page and nothing on MSNBC webpage. Will someone enlighten me?
Now That’s The Spirit
REAMOND
posted on October 11, 2001 02:29:45 PM
Even if bin Laden is captured or killed, there will still be attacks against the U.S..
These terrorists are not just Taliban. They are from Jihads in Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, Indonesia, Phillipines, Yeman, Oman, and OAE.
We are eradicating one rat's nest in Afghanistan, the are a dozen more ready to strike.
Now We’re getting somewher
forgottenchild
posted on October 11, 2001 03:23:51 PM
Hi this is really scary to me. Everytime i turn on the tv there is something else going on. I have found myself staying at home a lot more since this has all happened because places with a lot of people scare me cause that's where they always attack.
Operation Irqi Freedom Is GO GO GO GO!!!
Don’t ask why just ask why not???
That makes sence!!!???
gravid
posted on November 4, 2002 07:54:25 PM
In the long run it may make it worse for Iraq to keep the US away. If they are prevented from delivering a large number of tactical weapons locally they have the option of delivering any number of strategic weapons ballisticaly
posted on October 31, 2003 12:07:40 PM new
Lot's of good and intelligent posters, austbounty! Doesn't it make you wonder how posters on the RT understood the motives of Bush & Co. better than Congress and the general population? Krs was the best and the brightest.
