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 CBlev65252
 
posted on December 5, 2003 04:46:41 AM new
These quotes will make you laugh. Sadly, it's at the country's expense. Who says the man isn't brilliant.

George W. Bush quotes (careful, they can make ya dumbya):

Bush before the election:
"I trust the people."
Bush after the election:
"People can't be trusted."

"Security is the essential roadblock to achieving the road map to peace."—Washington, D.C., July 25, 2003

"My answer is bring them on."—On Iraqi militants attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

"You've also got to measure in order to begin to effect change that's just more—when there's more than talk, there's just actual—a paradigm shift."—Washington, D.C., July 1, 2003 (Thanks to Michael Shively.)

"I'm the master of low expectations."—Aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003

"First, let me make it very clear, poor people aren't necessarily killers. Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill."—Washington, D.C., May 19, 2003

"I think war is a dangerous place."—Washington, D.C., May 7, 2003

"I don't bring God into my life to—to, you know, kind of be a political person."—Interview with Tom Brokaw aboard Air Force One, April 24, 2003

"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order—order out of chaos. But we will."—Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003

"I think the American people—I hope the American–I don't think, let me—I hope the American people trust me."—Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

"There's only one person who hugs the mothers and the widows, the wives and the kids upon the death of their loved one. Others hug but having committed the troops, I've got an additional responsibility to hug and that's me and I know what it's like."—Washington, D.C., Dec. 11, 2002
We need an energy bill that encourages consumption."—Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."—Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

"There may be some tough times here in America. But this country has gone through tough times before, and we're going to do it again."—Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

"And so, in my State of the—my State of the Union—or state—my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation—I asked Americans to give 4,000 years—4,000 hours over the next—the rest of your life—of service to America. That's what I asked—4,000 hours." —Bridgeport, Conn., April 9, 2002

"Do you have blacks, too?"—To Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001

"Brie and cheese."—Taunting a reporter who recently spent time on the West Coast, Crawford, Texas, Aug. 23, 2001

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe—I believe what I believe is right."—Rome, July 22, 2001

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease."—GW Bush, Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001
"Our nation must come together to unite."—Tampa, Fla., June 4, 2001

"If a person doesn't have the capacity that we all want that person to have, I suspect hope is in the far distant future, if at all."—Remarks to the Hispanic Scholarship Fund Institute, Washington, D.C., May 22, 2001

"I want it to be said that the Bush administration was a results-oriented administration, because I believe the results of focusing our attention and energy on teaching children to read and having an education system that's responsive to the child and to the parents, as opposed to mired in a system that refuses to change, will make America what we want it to be—a literate country and a hopefuller country."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 11, 2001

"I would have to ask the questioner. I haven't had a chance to ask the questioners the question they've been questioning. On the other hand, I firmly believe she'll be a fine secretary of labor. And I've got confidence in Linda Chavez. She is a—she'll bring an interesting perspective to the Labor Department."—Austin, Texas, Jan. 8, 2001

"I do remain confident in Linda. She'll make a fine labor secretary. From what I've read in the press accounts, she's perfectly qualified."—Austin, Texas, Jan. 8, 2001

"I mean, these good folks are revolutionizing how businesses conduct their business. And, like them, I am very optimistic about our position in the world and about its influence on the United States. We're concerned about the short-term economic news, but long-term I'm optimistic. And so, I hope investors, you know—secondly, I hope investors hold investments for periods of time—that I've always found the best investments are those that you salt away based on economics."—Austin, Texas, Jan. 4, 2001

"The person who runs FEMA is someone who must have the trust of the president. Because the person who runs FEMA is the first voice, oftentimes, of someone whose life has been turned upside down hears from."
Austin, Texas, Jan. 4, 2001

"She is a member of a labor union at one point." Announcing his nomination of Linda Chavez as secretary of labor. Austin, Texas, Jan. 2, 2001

"Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods." Austin, Texas, Dec. 20, 2000

"I am mindful of the difference between the executive branch and the legislative branch. I assured all four of these leaders that I know the difference, and that difference is they pass the laws and I execute them." Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000

"The great thing about America is everybody should vote." Austin, Texas, Dec. 8, 2000
"Dick Cheney and I do not want this nation to be in a recession. We want anybody who can find work to be able to find work." 60 Minutes II, Dec. 5, 2000

"I knew it might put him in an awkward position that we had a discussion before finality has finally happened in this presidential race." Describing a phone call to Sen. John Breaux. Crawford, Texas, Dec. 2, 2000

"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law." Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000

"They misunderestimated me." Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program."
St. Charles, Mo., Nov. 2, 2000

"States should have the right to enact reasonable laws and restrictions particularly to end the inhumane practice of ending a life that otherwise could live." -Cleveland, June 29, 2000

"Unfairly but truthfully, our party has been tagged as being against things.. Anti-immigrant, for example. And we're not a party of anti-immigrants. Quite the opposite. We're a party that welcomes people." -campaigning in Cleveland, July 1, 2000

"The fundamental question is, 'Will I be a successful president when it comes to foreign policy?' I will be, but until I'm the president, it's going to be hard for me to verify that I think I'll be more effective." -In Wayne, Mich., as quoted in the New York Times, June 28, 2000

"The only things that I can tell you is that every case I have reviewed I have been comfortable with the innocence or guilt of the person that I've looked at. I do not believe we've put a guilty... I mean innocent person to death in the state of Texas." -All Things Considered, NPR, June 16, 2000

"I'm gonna talk about the ideal world, Chris. I've read- I understand reality. If you're asking me as the president, would I understand reality, I do." -On abortion, Hardball, MSNBC; May 31, 2000

"There's not going to be enough people in the system to take advantage of people like me." -On the coming Social Security crisis; Wilton, Conn.; June 9, 2000

BUSH: "First of all, Cinco de Mayo is not the independence day. That's dieciseis de Septiembre, and ..." MATTHEWS: "What's that in English?" BUSH: "Fifteenth of September." (Dieciseis de Septiembre = Sept. 16) -Hardball, MSNBC, May 31, 2000

"Actually, I...this may sound a little West Texan to you, but I like it. When I'm talking about...when I'm talking about myself, and when he's talking about myself, all of us are talking about me." -ibid

"This is a world that is much more uncertain than the past. In the past we were certain, we were certain it was us versus the Russians in the past. We were certain, and therefore we had huge nuclear arsenals aimed at each other to keep the peace. That's what we were certain of...You see, even though it's an uncertain world, we're certain of some things. We're certain that even though the 'evil empire' may have passed, evil still remains. We're certain there are people that can't stand what America stands for...We're certain there are madmen in this world, and there's terror, and there's missiles and I'm certain of this, too: I'm certain to maintain the peace, we better have a military of high morale, and I'm certain that under this administration, morale in the military is dangerously low." -Albuquerque, N.M., the Washington Post, May 31, 2000

"He has certainly earned a reputation as a fantastic mayor, because the results speak for themselves. I mean, New York's a safer place for him to be." -On Rudy Giuliani, The Edge With Paula Zahn, May 18, 2000

"The fact that he relies on facts...says things that are not factual...are going to undermine his campaign."
-New York Times, March 4, 2000

"I think we agree, the past is over." -On his meeting with John McCain, Dallas Morning News, May 10, 2000

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." -Reuters, May 5, 2000

GOV. BUSH: "Because the picture on the newspaper. It just seems so un-American to me, the picture of the guy storming the house with a scared little boy there. I talked to my little brother, Jeb...I haven't told this to many people. But he's the governor of...I shouldn't call him my little brother...my brother, Jeb, the great governor of Texas." JIM LEHRER: "Florida." GOV. BUSH: "Florida. The state of the Florida." -The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer, April 27, 2000

"I was raised in the West. The west of Texas. It's pretty close to California. In more ways than Washington, D.C., is close to California." -In Los Angeles as quoted by the Los Angeles Times, April 8, 2000

"Other Republican candidates may retort to personal attacks and negative ads." -Fund-raising letter from George W. Bush, quoted in the Washington Post, March 24, 2000 (a LETTER!)

"People make suggestions on what to say all the time. I'll give you an example; I don't read what's handed to me. People say, 'Here, here's your speech, or here's an idea for a speech.' They're changed. Trust me."
-Interview with the New York Times, March 15, 2000

"It's evolutionary, going from governor to president, and this is a significant step, to be able to vote for yourself on the ballot, and I'll be able to do so next fall, I hope." -Interview with the Associated Press, March 8, 2000

"It is not Reaganesque to support a tax plan that is Clinton in nature." -Los Angeles, Feb. 23, 2000

"I understand small business growth. I was one." -New York Daily News, Feb. 19, 2000

"The senator has got to understand if he's going to have...he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road." -To reporters in Florence, S.C., Feb. 17, 2000

"I thought how proud I am to be standing up beside my dad. Never did it occur to me that he would become the gist for cartoonists." -ibid

"If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign."
-Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000

"How do you know if you don't measure if you have a system that simply suckles kids through?"
-Explaining the need for educational accountability in Beaufort, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000

"We ought to make the pie higher." -South Carolina Republican Debate, Feb. 15, 2000

"I've changed my style somewhat, as you know. I'm less...I pontificate less, although it may be hard to tell it from this show. And I'm more interacting with people." -ibid

"I think we need not only to eliminate the tollbooth to the middle class, I think we should knock down the tollbooth." -Nashua, N.H., as quoted in the New York Times, Feb. 1, 2000

"The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case." -Pella, Iowa, as quoted by the San Antonio Express-News, Jan. 30, 2000

"Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" -Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000

"This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It's what you do when you run for president. You gotta preserve." -Speaking during "PERSEVERENCE Month" at Fairgrounds Elementary School in Nashua, N.H. As quoted in the Los Angeles Times, Jan. 28, 2000

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
-Greater Nashua, N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000

"What I am against is quotas. I am against hard quotas, quotas they basically delineate based upon whatever. However they delineate, quotas, I think vulcanize society. So I don't know how that fits into what everybody else is saying, their relative positions, but that's my position." -The San Francisco Chronicle, Jan. 21, 2000

"When I was coming up, it was a dangerous world, and you knew exactly who they were. It was us vs. them, and it was clear who them was. Today, we are not so sure who the they are, but we know they're there." -Iowa Western Community College, Jan 21, 2000

"The administration I'll bring is a group of men and women who are focused on what's best for America, honest men and women, decent men and women, women who will see service to our country as a great privilege and who will not stain the house." -Des Moines Register debate, Iowa, Jan. 15, 2000

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." -At a South Carolina oyster roast, as quoted in the Financial Times, Jan. 14, 2000

"We must all hear the universal call to like your neighbor just like you like to be liked yourself." -ibid

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" -Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

"Gov. Bush will not stand for the subsidation of failure." -ibid

"There needs to be debates, like we're going through. There needs to be town-hall meetings. There needs to be travel. This is a huge country." -Larry King Live, Dec. 16, 1999

"I think it's important for those of us in a position of responsibility to be firm in sharing our experiences, to understand that the babies out of wedlock is a very difficult chore for mom and baby alike...I believe we ought to say there is a different alternative than the culture that is proposed by people like Miss Wolf in society...And, you know, hopefully, condoms will work, but it hasn't worked." -Meet the Press, Nov. 21, 1999

"The important question is, How many hands have I shaked?" -Answering a question about why he hasn't spent more time in New Hampshire, in the New York Times, Oct. 23, 1999

"I don't remember debates. I don't think we spent a lot of time debating it.. Maybe we did, but I don't remember." -On discussions of the Vietnam War when he was an undergraduate at Yale, Washington Post, July 27, 1999

"It was just inebriating what Midland was all about then." -From a 1994 interview, as quoted in First Son by Bill Minutaglio

"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." -U.S. News & World Report, April 3, 2000

http://supak.com/bush.htm

Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
 
 BEAR1949
 
posted on December 5, 2003 08:44:03 AM new
Make fun of him all you want. But the majority of American approve of him.

Or are you biased against his Texas accent?

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2003/december/1203_bush_approval_soars.shtml



Bush Job Approval Rating Soars to 61 Percent
By Jimmy Moore
Talon News
December 3, 2003

WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- A new poll released Tuesday finds that President George W. Bush's job approval rating jumped in the past week after the Thanksgiving holiday, showing compelling evidence that the American people are delighted with his performance as president.

Two separate polls taken by The National Annenberg Election Survey occurred from November 23 through November 26 and again on November 28 through December 1.

The poll found that 61 percent of those surveyed approved of the way Bush is handling his job as president. This was up by four percentage points over the four days preceding Thanksgiving.

Also, Bush's disapproval rating dipped to 36 percent in the poll, down five percentage points from the four days before the holiday.

The reasons for the spike in the numbers in both directions have been linked to several factors.

First, the economy has continued to show strong signs of improvement over the latter half of 2003. In fact, Talon News reported last week on the adjusted third quarter economic growth numbers that came in at an astounding 8.2 percent as the Bush tax cuts have helped spark the economy and consumer confidence.

Second, as Talon News reported, the Medicare reform bill that included a prescription drug benefit for senior citizens and the disabled passed through both houses of Congress and awaits Bush's signature to become law. This was considered a huge political win for Bush and the Republicans.

Third, Bush made an unexpected trip to visit with the troops in Iraq on Thanksgiving, which was viewed by many as a positive.

The survey also found that nearly three out of four people view Bush from a personal standpoint in a favorable manner. Seventy-two percent like him personally compared with 65 percent before Thanksgiving.

With Republicans, a nearly unanimous 94 percent said they like Bush personally, which was up 11 points from the previous four days. And with Democrats, more than half favor him personally, up nine points from the days before Thanksgiving to 55 percent in the days after Thanksgiving.

This coincides with the TIME/CNN poll reported on by Talon News late last month that found that more than eight out of 10 Republicans and more than three out of 10 Democrats believe Bush has shown strong leadership in his role as president.

As for the war in Iraq and the economy, the poll found that there was an even split among those who approve and disapprove of the ongoing battle in Baghdad as well as with Bush's handling of the economy.

The poll of 789 people before Thanksgiving and 847 people after Thanksgiving has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

The job approval improvements for Bush complements the TIME/CNN poll that found that most registered voters in the United States prefer President George W. Bush over any of the nine Democrat presidential candidates in 2004.





"Another plague upon the land, as devastating as the locusts God loosed on the Egyptians, is "Political Correctness.'" --Charlton Heston
[ edited by BEAR1949 on Dec 5, 2003 10:02 AM ]
 
 profe51
 
posted on December 5, 2003 09:27:34 AM new
Job approval may or may not have anything to do with who people will vote for. This poll was also completed Nov. 30th:



___________________________________
The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.
-- P. J. ORourke (Holidays in hell, 1989)
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on December 5, 2003 09:37:59 AM new
profe, damn! I want them to poll me, now how cool is that?

Participants receive free hardware and free Internet access

just for taking a poll, I want to take one of their polls!


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 BEAR1949
 
posted on December 5, 2003 10:04:31 AM new
Near...

Me too, But I want DSL..








"Another plague upon the land, as devastating as the locusts God loosed on the Egyptians, is "Political Correctness.'" --Charlton Heston
[ edited by BEAR1949 on Dec 5, 2003 10:05 AM ]
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on December 5, 2003 11:54:10 AM new
Or are you biased against his Texas accent?

His accent has nothing to do with the above quotes...

Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 5, 2003 12:03:29 PM new
I like this site for reading quotes from the democrats.

http://www.politicsus.com/Quotes%20of%20the%20Week%20archive/110703.htm
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 5, 2003 12:07:17 PM new
This is one of my favorites from the above site.


"I have a tremendous respect for anyone who wears the uniform, anyone who has been shot at by our enemies. But when your last boss, in this case General Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, says that you lack integrity, that's a pretty strong indictment. No integrity? I mean, how would you like to be taking that reference around whenever you're looking for a new job?" -- Democratic Senator Zell Miller, on Wes Clark, 11/1/03.


editing to add a statement from Wes Clark himself.

"In fact, the last election I was in was for home-room student council representative. We put our heads down on our desks, the teacher asked us to raise our hand. And I voted for my best friend. And after it was over, I said, 'Well, you voted for me, right?' He said, 'No, I didn't.' He won by one vote." -- Wesley Clark, on the sum total of his previous electoral experience, 10/26/03.
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 5, 2003 12:20 PM ]
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on December 5, 2003 12:39:12 PM new
The difference being that those quotes are from many people. George Bush puts his foot in his mouth just about every single time he speaks.
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on December 5, 2003 01:35:28 PM new
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[ edited by Helenjw on Dec 5, 2003 01:36 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 5, 2003 02:05:15 PM new
quotes are from many people.

True. But there are nine [were 10] to try and keep up with. Plus all the democratic party members that are against some of the positions they take. Lots to keep up with.


Anyone who reads the site week after week sees the same patterns....and the in fighting...and the criticism not only of Bush but constantly of one another. And then their answer to that criticism. Not a pretty sight. A pretty divided party, imo.
 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on December 5, 2003 02:21:36 PM new
Now, I didn't start this thread to start a political fight. I thought I'd share some laughs. You have to admit, that GWB is not exactly the most intelligent person on the planet when it comes to making speeches. I'm not saying he's dumb, just not intelligent. So, I guess that pretty much puts him in the mainstream.

Linda
GWB's quotes would have put my English teacher in a state of total shock. I have to wonder if he ever attended an English class at all. He comes off sounding like an uneducated moron.

Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u [ edited by CBlev65252 on Dec 5, 2003 02:27 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 5, 2003 02:36:09 PM new
Cheryl - Imo, there's a great deal of difference between not being able to articulate ones words, and being intelligent. He's intelligent alright and he has common sense.


But I think his greatest strength is knowing what his ideas/ideals are and staying the course..not reversing himself according to the latest poll.


He made it to be the leader of the best country in the world. Not bad...I'd say.


I think most realize no one is perfect. And if he has to have a fault, I'd rather see it in this area and have a president who supports defending our country, than the best 'smooth talker' who does nothing.
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on December 5, 2003 02:49:45 PM new

He's just a puppet. Carl Rove dresses him up and tells him what to read and where to go. It's when he veers off script that the real nature of his ability becomes apparent.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on December 5, 2003 03:19:30 PM new
Well since this is not political, and for laughs, here:

"The other thing we have to do is to take seriously the role in this problem of...older men who prey on underage women...There are consequences to decisions and...one way or the other, people always wind up being held accountable." Bill Clinton, June 13, 1996, in a speech endorsing a national effort against teen pregnancy.

Unless the person is an Intern, of course...

"You can't say you love your country and hate your government." - Bill Clinton, 1995 (After the OKC bombing)

"A lot of wonderful people love their country and hate the military." - Bill Clinton, 1969 (Letter to the National Guard)

"The last time I checked, the Constitution said, 'of the people, by the people and for the people.' That's what the Declaration of Independence says."
President Bill Clinton, campaigning October 17, 1996. From a campaign speech given in California. Quoted in Investor's Business Daily October 25, 1996

Gee, Mr. Clinton, that statement is in NEITHER - that phrase was in the Gettysburg Address!

"It has not worked. No one can say it has worked, so I decided we're either going to do what we said we're going to do with the U.N., or we're going to do something else."
A Bill Clinton quote in Washington Post on the U.N. operation in Bosnia.

What insight! He'll do what he said he would, or he'll do something else!









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 Helenjw
 
posted on December 5, 2003 03:41:28 PM new

Here's a great article by a great author about a great president...Bill Clinton.

The Mysteries of Bill Clinton by Gabriel Garcia Marquez


Helen


Ed. to add url.

[ edited by Helenjw on Dec 5, 2003 03:56 PM ]
 
 BEAR1949
 
posted on December 5, 2003 06:35:31 PM new
Here's a great article by a great author about a great president...Bill Clinton.





Thanks for the laugh Helen......
"Another plague upon the land, as devastating as the locusts God loosed on the Egyptians, is "Political Correctness.'" --Charlton Heston
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on December 5, 2003 07:55:20 PM new
when you said 'a great article by a great author about a great president' (you said great 3x in one sentence )
I thought it was about Lincoln or Reagan

Clinton? okey dokey






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 Helenjw
 
posted on December 5, 2003 08:31:45 PM new

Lincoln or Reagan??? Naa...



 
 profe51
 
posted on December 5, 2003 09:48:24 PM new
helen, thanks for that link, Gabriel Garcia is one of my heroes....
___________________________________
The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.
-- P. J. ORourke (Holidays in hell, 1989)
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on December 6, 2003 06:32:40 AM new


Every sentence that Garcia Marquez writes is wonderful...every story and every book, a masterpiece!

Helen



[ edited by Helenjw on Dec 6, 2003 07:54 AM ]
 
 colin
 
posted on December 6, 2003 06:49:58 AM new
I don't take much satisfaction from polls. I would think you would have to see the headlines on the day the people were polled to begin with. But that said. looks like President Bush is rising once again in the polls:

AP Poll: growing optimism about economy improving Bush's public standing
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Washington-AP -- A new Associated Press poll suggests growing optimism about the economy is beginning to improve President Bush's standing with voters.

In the latest survey, 44 percent say they're more comfortable now about job security for themselves and for those they know. That's up nine points from early October.

In addition, more approve of the way President Bush is handling the economy. Fifty percent expressed that view, compared with 45 percent in October.

Those results go hand-in-hand with improvements in Bush's re-election prospects. Forty-one percent of those polled say they would definitely vote for Bush, while 36 percent said they would definitely vote against him. One in five said they would consider voting for someone else.

The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points


Amen,
Yes Liberals, I can cut and paste too.
Reverend Colin

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on December 6, 2003 08:04:38 AM new

Your spin is just in time for Christmas, colin.

Is the Bushco message again to fight terrorism by shopping -- or when you buy your gifts, it's cost that counts -- or thrift and simplicity is high treason?

Helen

 
 gravid
 
posted on December 6, 2003 11:55:08 AM new
"Imo, there's a great deal of difference between not being able to articulate ones words, and being intelligent. He's intelligent alright and he has common sense."

To me a twisted incomplete manner of speech indicates to me that that's how he thinks - disjointed - jumping from one idea to another before he has a complete thought. Nothing he tried his hand at in the business world ever was a success. If he was not from a very wealthy family it would be hard for him to find a decent job based on his own abilities.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 6, 2003 12:39:23 PM new
gravid - I think that is how most of you who are very proficient/articulate with the English language see it.


I don't. [Maybe 'cause I mangle the English language myself ] I see that when he's trying to read from pre-written speeches, he really stumbles...he appears uncomfortable.

When he's speaking on issues, straight from his heart, issues that he feels very strongly about, he does quite well. Like immediately following 9-11....his speech on that platform. ..straight from his heart. I think it's more that he's one of those who are very uncomfortable with public speaking. That doesn't affect decision making, doesn't reflect IQ numbers, just a case of 'nerves' sometimes.


He appears to me to feel more comfortable when addressing 'blue collar workers' type crowds, rather than 'suits'. [A more relaxed type crowd...rather than a 'formal' type crowd.] And like most of us, probably recognizes that public speaking is not his strong point. Because he's not comfortable, it would be natural for him to be nervous and stumble even more.

Whether anyone agrees with his positions or not...be they rigth or wrong [in hindsight] he does what he believes is right...according to his ideals and isn't wishy-washy about them.
 
 colin
 
posted on December 6, 2003 01:49:36 PM new
I understand Ted Bundy was an articulate speaker, as was Hitler, as is Ex. President Clinton.

What's the point?

Will Rogers had a disjointed - jumping from one idea to another before he has a complete thought type of monologue.

He was a brilliant man.

This thread is kind of like making fun of the new kid in school with the accent.

Think about the people that were never fully appreciated in there life times. People that many years later were thought to be genius. People that spoke poorly but could write verse, music, gave us beautiful art or the theory of relativity.

If god was on earth in human form and had a hunchback or spoke with a lisp who the hell would listen to Him/Her?

It's scary to think a person would be damned for a few screw ups.

I hope none of you ever step in dog sh*t in front of a group of people that done know you.

Amen,
Reverend Colin


 
 Helenjw
 
posted on December 6, 2003 03:58:45 PM new

"You don't need to be smart to be president"
--Republican Congressman J.C. Watts - said at a February campaign appearance on Bush's behalf. Washington Post, 6/11/00

"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating."
--U.S. News & World Report, April 3, 2000

 
 
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