NearTheSea
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posted on January 4, 2004 09:53:01 AM new
This is really cool, something I've been looking forward to!
Landed, got first 'postcards' from Mars!
This is the first, not much, grainy, but we got our probe ON MARS!! 
More here:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20040104a.html
Only took 7 months, I am wondering when they are going to try a manned exploration to Mars, and will it be in my lifetime
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capyoda
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posted on January 4, 2004 10:03:23 AM new
i woked up in the middle of the night and checked cnn, and was happy to see that half of the $400 million wasn't wasted.
glad we're back. although do they have color photo on that rover? maybe they'll take color photo later? I know they'll have to adjust the tone and what not.. but I want to see some color pics..
anyway thats about the only good news.. everything else is rather depressing.
I'm flying to france next week, and for the first time in years I'm actually a little bit nervous.
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 4, 2004 10:08:42 AM new
capyoda yeah pretty cool huh
Not sure about color pics... I'm thinking just how much color besides 'red sand or dirt' there is there! I'm wanting to see video.
They had 3 go, lost one, I believe and the third is slated to land toward the end of January.
Its pretty exciting!
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capyoda
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posted on January 4, 2004 10:15:06 AM new
the 2nd rover is feb. I thought?
its too bad about beagle 1, would have been a nice first attempt for the european space agency. although their orbiter is chucking along fine.
I dont know about manned mission to mars too. it'll be really cool and wondering, but I dont see it in my life time too, and I'm only 21.
we'll probably go back to the moon before we head to mars, thats definitely more likely and I'd like to see that. (and I bet during that time, those stupid conspiracy theory shows will pop up again)
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 4, 2004 10:28:51 AM new
Thats right it was the Beagle
Your right it may be February, someone had been saying end of Jan, but who knows
Well, I had been hearing for a long time the President was to announce on Dec 17th whether we were to go back to the moon... but he didn't announce it 
Not sure if that means we won't, I would like to see us go back also!
Yeah, who knows about a manned mission to Mars.. hey your young, it could be in your lifetime, I'm 4- and still hoping!! LOL
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 4, 2004 10:31:40 AM new
Oh yeah. the Conspiracy Theory people, who think that we faked the moon landing.. argh!!!
betcha they are saying we are 'faking' this Mars probe too!! There will always be those people!
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gravid
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posted on January 4, 2004 10:40:20 AM new
Well that one rock looks like a rusty beer can to me.....................
If they had only allowed a big NIKON to be painted on the side of the rocket and rover we'd be getting streaming video and they'd have chipped in 50 million or so.....
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 4, 2004 11:05:58 AM new
LOL gravid on the Nikon logo
I'm not sure what your looking at, the Spirit, when lands, opens up, or 'splits' from all sides, so most of the pic above is of the probe itself, you can see some landscape beyond, all dirt but at that url there are more pics. I am waiting (or there might be some now) of streaming video that would be really cool
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bunnicula
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posted on January 4, 2004 11:53:12 AM new
Color photos were sent back from the Viking landings over 10 years ago:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/vl2_p17686.html
http://spacefinder.tripod.com/pages/035.htm
http://beacon-archives.jpl.nasa.gov/hpom/p-18296.html
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 4, 2004 11:58:05 AM new
Cool pictures bunnicula!
Still looks like the 'red planet' though
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kcpick4u
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posted on January 4, 2004 12:31:31 PM new
capyoda- If they discover a useable source of water on mars, They most likely will be a manned mission to mars in your life time. They might even consider populating the planet in given time. If hydrogen propulsion is mastered and utilized to propel spacecraft. They then can set-up shop in one of a multitude of volcanic fissures that exist there. Converting water into hydrogen to fuel the vessels returning to earth or venturing further into space. When converting water to hydrogen a by-product of that process is oxygen. If they were to do this on a large enough scale they may eventually produce enough oxygen to sustain a atmosphere conducive to carbon base life.
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 4, 2004 01:07:02 PM new
Twelve should be interested in this story about his home planet... where's he hiding???
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 4, 2004 08:52:01 PM new
....gone all day, everyone was getting cabin fever here, and the ice was gone,so we left
LOL kraft
Yes, if you read jpl or the NASA site, that is one of the reasons for sending these newer probes, to see if there is a possibility of water, since a lot of scientists and astronomers agree there *could* be water. Real interesting stuff. I would love to see a manned mission, but I'd like to see them go back to the moon. Heck now they could take off from the space station...... probably, but today, its got to be way easier than it was when they first went.
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yellowstone
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posted on January 4, 2004 11:03:20 PM new
kraftdinner
I swear you are incorrigible LOL.
I am just tickled light red that the rover landed successfully.
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yellowstone
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posted on January 4, 2004 11:15:55 PM new
In the past I have watched some programs on the Discovery channel about a possible manned mission to Mars and they always say that one problem is that they can't take enough fuel and supplies to sustain them on the long journey.
I think they should take a lesson from the Bushmen in Africa and send supplies and fuel first to predetermined points along the way. That way they will have enough supplies and fuel for the trip over and back.
Makes perfect sense to me.
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kcpick4u
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posted on January 4, 2004 11:46:16 PM new
That manned flight to mars may occur after remote or intelligent robots have paved the way for human exploration. The big problem is method of propulsion. The next generation of military aircraft on the drawing board are capable of producing g-forces during flight that exceed the limits that the human body can withstand, and will ultimately have to be flown by remote or other means to obtain optimal in-flight performance. Many things can happen, but you can rest assured it will be attempted and eventually accomplished. I agree with the bushman analogy, A harvard proffesor and bushman can both teach the other one something.
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 5, 2004 09:24:28 AM new
kcpick4u and yellowstone, that makes a lot of sense... to send supplies and fuel along the way for a manned mission.. unless some new super technology comes along, yeah that is one long mission for men. They would have to do something along those lines.....that is putting supplies up along the way..
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Twelvepole
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posted on January 5, 2004 10:21:23 AM new
this is exciting and would be better money spent than on the moon.
Only reason I could see another mission to the moon would be to set up and asteroid watch outpost.
I am curious as to what will replace the space shuttles?
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 5, 2004 11:06:12 AM new
I'm glad to see you back, Twelve! I've been dropping mini-insults here & there to try and get you back posting. I hope you didn't miss any. 
Seriously though, I hope you had a great Christmas and New Year's. Meet anyone special over the holidays or just working overtime?
Hi Yellowstone! Sorry, but Twelve brings out the best in me.
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Helenjw
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posted on January 5, 2004 11:23:01 AM new
Kraftdinner..while you're here, just want to apologize for mistaking Linda's post for your's in the singing thread. I deleted my response and I took you off the hit list.
Helen
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capyoda
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posted on January 5, 2004 01:20:40 PM new
dropping off supply along the way will have lots of challenges though (although what part of a mission to mars isn't?)
you'll be subjecting the supplies and fuel to radiation from space and all these other goodies.
I hope they do it in my lifetime. never know. a decade or two before we're able to fly, it was seen as impossible. so anything could happen.
I'd still like a return to the moon, I'll take it even if china goes. course that's if they bother to broadcast it.
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 5, 2004 01:45:31 PM new
You're A-OK with me, Helen.
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capyoda
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posted on January 5, 2004 02:09:36 PM new
ooh they just beammed back 3d pictures.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/05/mars.rovers/index.html
neat
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yellowstone
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posted on January 5, 2004 02:19:10 PM new
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/05/mars.rovers/index.html
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yellowstone
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posted on January 5, 2004 02:28:03 PM new
I am curious as to what will replace the space shuttles?
NCC-1701A
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NearTheSea
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posted on January 5, 2004 09:51:16 PM new
Shouldn't take more than 10 earth minutes (or less?) in the NCC-1701A
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capyoda
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posted on January 6, 2004 11:45:07 AM new
color pics are coming in.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040106/480/ny11301061737
mmm.. empty
[ edited by capyoda on Jan 6, 2004 12:33 PM ]
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