posted on January 15, 2004 10:21:49 AM new
If Jesus were put in charge of the war in Iraq who would he kill and how would he do it. Who would he torture to gain information and how would he do it?
I ask these questions because I've noticed a large percentage of Christians seem to be so gung-ho for war.
While digesting Reader's Digest
In the back of a dirty book store,
A plastic flag, with gum on the back,
Fell out on the floor.
Well, I picked it up and I ran outside
Slapped it on my window shield,
And if I could see old Betsy Ross
I'd tell her how good I feel.
Chorus:
But your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
They're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
Well, I went to the bank this morning
And the cashier he said to me,
"If you join the Christmas club
We'll give you ten of them flags for free."
Well, I didn't mess around a bit
I took him up on what he said.
And I stuck them stickers all over my car
And one on my wife's forehead.
Repeat Chorus:
Well, I got my window shield so filled
With flags I couldn't see.
So, I ran the car upside a curb
And right into a tree.
By the time they got a doctor down
I was already dead.
And I'll never understand why the man
Standing in the Pearly Gates said...
"But your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
We're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more."
posted on January 15, 2004 12:45:45 PM new
Hey - Sadam was getting ready to invade Florida - it's preemptive self defense. If they hadn't acted right now they'd be fighting across a front pushing North into Georgia with a horrid exchange of nuclear and chemical weapons. Bin Laden probably would have opened another front somewhere and be pushing across the US raping and bombing from Toyota pickup trucks. That's what I got from their press releases anyway. If you don't believe then you are a traitor.
Now we are safe because they don't have to come over here to have lots and lots of Americans to shoot at.
I believe that Florida actually voted on it, but the hanging chads confused Saddam and he gave up because he remembered that the Prez's brother is governor. So, the votes for Saddam's invasion were never counted. However, I do believe they also voted to approve the Prez's new immigration plan and now Saddam can legally work in the US. I could be mistaken, though.
posted on January 15, 2004 05:20:51 PM new
I don't understand the pro-war Christians either, getalife. It's a mystery to me and probably to those Christians too.
posted on January 15, 2004 07:06:47 PM new
As I understand it, Jesus isn't supposed to return 'all smiles and homilies' like he was on his first visit; we're to expect a vengeful, sword-wielding judge. What part of that promise would cause any Christian to think twice about war?
posted on January 15, 2004 09:08:30 PM new
This is an interesting thread!
First our war against Iraq has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a Christian, but IMO because we are Americans.
Who would Jesus kill? Since this would be the second coming in the Christian circle, I would have to say that anyone who does not believe in Him would be toast....on an eternal level.
Now the true test.....did my EZ HTML work?
Karl
[center]"For one who is not pure has many enemies everywhere and is not safe from them. Only a pure being walks right through his enemy, shaking him to the core."
posted on January 16, 2004 12:00:20 PM new
Hi Near!
But isn't getalife's point is that we shouldn't be killing each other? Promoting peace by killing your enemies is backwards. If it worked, wouldn't the world be ultra peaceful by now?
posted on January 16, 2004 04:38:37 PM new
Killing others is evil. Someone out there thought up some conditions to make killing, under certain circumstances, OK. Sheep accept that.
posted on January 16, 2004 07:00:47 PM new
Really? How much do you think he'd pay to off one? (You are attempting to pass yourself off as the good looking woman in this scenario, aren't you?)
Furthermore, if he has so much money, why's he wasting his time here? I'd be out doing several unmentionable things if I was wealthy...
posted on January 16, 2004 07:19:18 PM new
Yes! I attempt to pass myself off as gorgeous on each post I make. I beleive people learn through repetition.
posted on January 17, 2004 01:41:50 PM new
Jesus most likely would kill no one. But we won't ever know that for sure. His Dad got pretty upset a few times and did terrible things to those who had pissed him off.
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First our war against Iraq has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a Christian, but IMO because we are Americans.
That's sure true. To hear some here talk, the *only* people in the whole US who ever sent our armed forces off to war were republicans. Like not even one democratic leader/president sent our troops off to war...or to bomb another country.
posted on January 19, 2004 06:46:40 AM new More Hate From the Christian Right
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
-- Randall Terry, The News Sentinel, (Ft. Wayne, IN.), 8/16/93
"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
-- Jerry Falwell
"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant--baptism and holy communion--must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel."
-- Gary North - Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism, Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1989, p. 87
Hate from Bush
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- President George Bush, August 27, 1988
"We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe."
-- Gary Bauer, Family Research Council
"So let us be blunt about it: We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will be get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God."
-- Gary North, "The Intellectual Schizophrenia of the New Christian Right" in Christianity and Civilization: The Failure of the American Baptist Culture, No. 1 (Spring, 1982), p. 25
