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 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 24, 2004 01:37:39 PM new
Trying to find out the truth about Bush is called Bush-bashing. Now, trying to get to the truth behind "God's word", is called Bible-bashing. Under these circumstances, you'd think bashing was a good thing, but not here. So, if bashing is wrong, how should we be discussing these issues?

 
 bunnicula
 
posted on February 24, 2004 01:43:35 PM new
What's wrong with you?!? According to Bush & Co. we shouldn't discuss them at all--just follow along meekly, like the sheep they'd like us to be...
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on February 24, 2004 01:44:23 PM new
How about wording your "discussion topics" so they are not inflammatory to begin with...

That usually is a key indicator that you are bashing...

That does not lead to "open" discussion at all.


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

http://www.nogaymarriage.com/
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on February 24, 2004 01:50:28 PM new
baaa-aaa
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
 
 trai
 
posted on February 24, 2004 02:01:00 PM new
So, if bashing is wrong, how should we be discussing these issues?

As adults with some civil manners even when a topic heats up.
Instead of debating or bringing up solid backing for topics it always winds up with name calling, insults, slurs and it just goes on.
I can understand that as puny mortals we can fall of the wagon once in awhile but it seems people are not happy till it turns into a brawl.
This does seem to be a common thing on boards everywhere. [Human nature]
More fun I guess, carry on.

 
 profe51
 
posted on February 24, 2004 02:03:29 PM new
An indication of the powerlessness many people feel? Just wonderin'......
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 kiara
 
posted on February 24, 2004 02:51:49 PM new
Some posters have very rigid views and never seem to bend. To believe anything different than they do or to speak out about it, may be considered "bashing". Other times people don't have the same sense of humor and some statements that are said, even when followed up with a wink or silly face, are misinterpreted and perhaps construed as insults.

Most times I'm in a fairly good mood and I can take insults but I've always been a bit sensitive so perhaps at times I read too much into what someone says back to me. I think others are guilty of that too. In RL I know that some wouldn't talk the way they do behind their screens, in fact I'm much quieter in RL. Depending on my mood, I've been quick to hurl insults too. Like trai says, I think it's fairly common on most message boards.

I enjoyed logansdad's thread on gay marriage, simply because he asked questions that made me think and most responses showed that others were actually debating the issues.

Edited for spelling....


[ edited by kiara on Feb 24, 2004 02:52 PM ]
 
 davebraun
 
posted on February 24, 2004 05:02:03 PM new
I have come to view this "forum" as nothing more than a rant. I have seen very little discusion and much name calling (yes I have done this many times myself). Fact is ignored in favor of insult. For this reason I rarely post any more along with the limited topics brought up which are predominently Christian Themes, Iraq and blatant bigotry.
Friends don't let friends vote Republican!
 
 skylite
 
posted on February 24, 2004 05:02:09 PM new




 
 trai
 
posted on February 24, 2004 05:45:14 PM new
And lets not forget the ever popular overkill!

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on February 24, 2004 07:18:15 PM new
I have on rare occasion used name calling, but I believe that was long ago. I have been subject to much name calling, and all because I had an opinion. Of my own. (which to certain posters are not the 'brightest' ones, and 'I'm taxing my brain') yeah its not too much fun, when thats all you do hear (or rather see ), if you don't go with the flow and agree with 'the other side'. And I've seen other posters being called AH (short for A**H*le) and worse.

In RL I don't see any of this sort of thing, say in a regular conversation with friends or just people you just meet. Rare have I seen a group of people sit there and call each other names like this (except those Holiday occasions where Uncle Bob has too much nog, or Aunt Betty forgot her medication ) People wouldn't be sitting there too long conversing, if all they did was call each other names, or told each other how stupid they were for thinking one way. The Internet has changed that....like someone else mentioned: its easy to sit behind a screen and spew whatever you want

thats about all this forum is about; opinions..... or rushing to Google to find one




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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."- Carl Sagan
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 24, 2004 07:33:44 PM new


That's so precious nearthesea...I believe we've both
called someone an *&*%#@* at some time or another.

From Helen, the mother of all something or other.

It's good to see you back, nearthesea.





 
 Linda_K
 
posted on February 24, 2004 07:45:20 PM new
OT - sorry -

NearTheSea - I loves you. And with all the talk of gay marriages, I hope people realize that you're already married. I mean that in a respectful kind of way.

You have always, in my eyes, been one of the MOST restrained posters.
I miss you posting here too. Hope you'll pop in more often.
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Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 24, 2004 08:24:22 PM new
Hi Near! When posters call me names, it makes my convictions even stronger, so in a way, they're helping to build my (wonderful) character. I thought you felt this way too.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on February 24, 2004 08:26:30 PM new
Linda

I've read here off and on... and yes, the gay marriage 'issue'. My opinion on it?
hmmmmmmm, no, I don't believe gays should marry in the sense that has been a tradition for hundreds and more years, the tradition of one man and one woman.
OH yeah, I am married, I am female married to a male (I knew what you meant )

My opinion on why they shouldn't legally marry is this; what else will open up if it is legal? Marry your first cousin, marry your sister or brother.... I think it opens up a huge can of worms. And thats just one reason.

Is it a right or priveledge, as been 'argued'.... its a priveledge....
Like driving, people think its their right, its not, its a privledge.

I believe there are only a couple of real human rights and one is the right to be free (as opposed to someone or group owning you.)

When I get time, I'll have to look in more, and I have always thought about you and how you are doing now, and I hope it is well.


(oh yeah, I'm surprised NO ONE has opened up a 'topic' on Mel Gibsons new movie yet..... been looking, but don't see it........ I think I might be able to get into that one )






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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."- Carl Sagan
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 24, 2004 08:31:18 PM new
Good thing you clarified that Linda! Normally I would think if a person said "I love you" to another of the same sex, they would probably both be gay.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on February 24, 2004 08:39:18 PM new
Really KD? I've always told people I love that I love them, whether they're male or female.

I hug and kiss my male and female friends too. I hug and kiss my girlfriends husbands too. It's an expression of love.

But I said to NTS, loves because I only know her online.

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Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 profe51
 
posted on February 24, 2004 08:52:10 PM new
I hug and kiss my girlfriends husbands too. It's an expression of love

I tried that explanation with my wife, after kissing some of her girlfriends...she got out her rolling pin and threatened to make a tortilla out of my head if I ever did it again...
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 Linda_K
 
posted on February 24, 2004 09:00:28 PM new
ROFLOL - Poor guy... she who must be obeyed sounds 'quite' unreasonable to me.
But then as I've always been told; there's HIS side, there's HER side....and then there's the truth. Maybe we should hear HER side...before forming any opinions. lol


My girlfriends have even invited me to join their husbands for [day] trips and dinners when they were out of town. Now....that's trust.


Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 24, 2004 09:46:38 PM new
You DO believe everything you read, Linda!

P.S. No woman would ever leave her husband alone with me because I'm too radiant.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 24, 2004 09:58:34 PM new

LoL KD...I was thinking the same thing.



 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 24, 2004 10:06:49 PM new
P.S. Linda - Helen is a Kennedy.

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 25, 2004 01:00:10 PM new
Twelve, I wanted to thank you for your post. No name calling or anything. Thanks.

 
 kiara
 
posted on February 25, 2004 01:06:58 PM new
P.S. No woman would ever leave her husband alone with me because I'm too radiant.

Some wives trust me completely when I'm around their husbands. They're married to my brothers. lol

I don't mind being called names or if someone is rude when they disagree with me, but when someone posts misinformation about me just to start trouble then I can get really irate.


 
 kcpick4u
 
posted on February 28, 2004 04:16:47 AM new
Krafty Baby, I am going to bash through that damned electrified fence and steal you away like a thief in the night. And together we will embark on a rapturous journey, taking you to a level of ecstasy not known to your flesh before!

 
 
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