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 keiichem
 
posted on February 27, 2004 11:19:03 AM new
here is a link to a venezuelan TV station.

See the current Anti-dictatorship riot live.

IMO venezuela will go to a Civil War wihtin the year. There will be big trouble with Oil here since they are the 4th largest U.S. supplier.

http://www.venevision.net/home/envivo/envivo.htm

You need media player



http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4457119

By Pascal Fletcher
CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuelan troops firing tear gas and plastic bullets Friday stopped opposition protesters from marching to a summit of Third World leaders to demand a recall referendum against President Hugo Chavez.

The clashes broke out as hundreds of National Guard troops backed by armored vehicles barred the path of the demonstration by thousands of opposition supporters advancing toward the summit venue in Caracas.

A Reuters correspondent said he saw National Guard troops fire round after round of tear gas canisters, scattering the demonstrators, who threw stones. Television footage also showed the soldiers firing shotgun pellets.

Several of the protesters were hit by pellets.

Clouds of tear gas wafted across one of Caracas' main avenues, less than a mile (about one kilometer) from the hotel and theater complex where leaders from 19 nations from Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean were gathering.

The demonstrators had planned to try to hand over a message to the foreign leaders explaining their campaign to secure a recall vote against populist Chavez. They say he is ruling the world's No. 5 oil exporter like a dictator............



 
 Reamond
 
posted on February 27, 2004 11:46:14 AM new
Gee, guess who is funding the "rioters" ?

 
 keiichem
 
posted on February 27, 2004 11:55:29 AM new
Guess who is arming chavez?

Hint: he has a lice infested beard.

 
 reamond
 
posted on February 27, 2004 12:11:45 PM new
Guess who is arming chavez?

Arming him with what ? Sugar and refugees ? LMAO !!! You're kidding right ?

 
 keiichem
 
posted on February 27, 2004 12:40:08 PM new
Yep.

"sugar"=Arms hidden in the shipment

Refugees= disguised as "doctors" and "teachers"




 
 keiichem
 
posted on February 27, 2004 12:46:14 PM new
"That would bring Venezuela far closer to Cuba, which maybe shouldn't be a surprise: Mr. Castro, who is Mr. Chavez's closest ally, reportedly has dispatched thousands of officials to Venezuela."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A18965-2003Feb28&notFound=true



It is sad reamond, you have an excellent handle on legal matters yet you also comment on things with pure ignorance.
[ edited by keiichem on Feb 27, 2004 12:48 PM ]
 
 reamond
 
posted on February 27, 2004 01:02:59 PM new
Get real. Castro hasn't been a threat to any nation except his own since the downfall of the USSR.

The US is trying to destabilize Chavez because of his oil policies.

There are any number of tryants and dictators in Central and South America. We only get seriously involved when we have something at stake, such as oil.

We could have sunk Castro years ago, but Cuba has nothing we really want.

We are paying people to oppose Chavez and riot. We tried it once before, but the people of Venezuala went to the streets to stop us.



 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 27, 2004 01:06:57 PM new
"There will be big trouble with Oil here since they are the 4th largest U.S. supplier."

Actually, they are currently seventh.

 
 Fenix03
 
posted on February 27, 2004 01:40:31 PM new
Destabilization of a single oil supplying nation has little effect on the US. Proof of this is that Venezeula was our fourth largest suppliler a year agountil strikes effected their production capabilities... we devide the difference between other countries.

On the other hand - destabillization of a single river in the US can have an effect.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
[ edited by Fenix03 on Feb 27, 2004 01:41 PM ]
 
 reamond
 
posted on February 27, 2004 01:43:48 PM new
Destabilization of a single oil supplying nation has little effect on the US.

Oil prices were way up before the ship collision. The present administration wants oil below $25 a barrel. Venezuala under Chavez will not cooperate.

 
 kiara
 
posted on February 27, 2004 02:06:01 PM new
I think Venezuela is fourth now.

There was a chart I looked at a few weeks ago but I can't find it now.

According to this site the top countries are Saudi Arabia, Canada, Mexico and Venezuela.

Tuesday, February 10, 2004


US oil imports of Venezuelan crude at their highest in a year

Combining crude oil and refined petroleum products, Canada was the top supplier, followed by Mexico, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela.

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntl40649.htm

 
 keiichem
 
posted on February 27, 2004 10:17:25 PM new
Reamon i will qoute another poster "I guess if you say so it must be true".

So, we are paying the opposition to lose their future and freedom?. "I guess if you say so it must be true"


Let me call my brother in law and ask him how much he was paid.

Castro a threat no! He knows how to play the game within the parameters. His dealings have nothing to do with ideology it's with $$$$$$$$$ pure and simple.



The oil will not willingly stop flowing to the U.S., to much money involved as well as opening the door to intervention "national interest".


Hey give me sources on your points, other than that it's nothing more than "I guess if you say so it must be true".

 
 keiichem
 
posted on February 28, 2004 05:41:38 PM new
BTW The opposition has been fighting off Chavez while your PAL BILL was still in the ORAL OFFICE.



Venezuelan opposition asks OAS to intervene after Chavez threat

April 12, 1999
Web posted at: 9:14 p.m. EDT (0114 GMT)



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In this story:

OAS has acted 4 times since '91

Supreme Court issues sharp rebuke

Outside investment plummets

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CARACAS, Venezuela (CNN) -- Venezuela's political crisis grew more heated Monday as President Hugo Chavez threatened anew to rule by decree and opposition parties appealed to the international community to help ensure democracy...........


http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9904/12/venezuela.chavez/



 
 keiichem
 
posted on February 28, 2004 06:25:18 PM new
And


Venezuela's Chavez threatens to dissolve Congress


In this story:
Next stop: Washington
Chavez: Corrupted system needs shakeup
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January 18, 1999


Web posted at: 11:38 p.m. EDT (2338 GMT)


CARACAS, Venezuela (CNN) -- Hours after returning from Havana, Venezuelan President-elect Hugo Chavez praised Fidel Castro's Cuba and warned that he might dissolve Congress if it blocks his bid to create a popular assembly with the sole power to rewrite the constitution...........


http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9901/18/venezuela/index.html


 
 
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