posted on March 5, 2004 08:47:53 AM new
I know, just what we need, another gay thread. But this doesn't surprise me at all that businesspersons feel this way. Sorry it's so long but the page has an annoying pop-up so I copied most of it.
For Corporate America, the top election issues are weak hiring, the budget deficit, and outsourcing. Same-sex unions hardly register.
Despite all the media attention that same-sex marriage has generated recently, only 3% of top U.S. executives believe it's a key issue in the 2004 Presidential election, according to a recent poll conducted by executive-search firm Christian & Timbers.
For the 137 chief executives, chief operating officers, and other top execs surveyed, the issue registers only faintly because they don't see any bottom-line impact, says Stephen Mader, Christian & Timbers' president and chief executive. "Businesspeople see no real economic implications" of gay marriage, Mader notes. "Social issues never really become top-of-mind for a businessperson."
Mader observes that even though corporate types tend to be fiscally conservative, they're often quite tolerant and progressive on social issues. After all, top U.S. execs usually travel widely and lead diverse workforces. And to a certain extent, Corporate America is increasingly accepting of same-sex couples. Slightly less than half -- 211 -- of the nation's top 500 companies now offer domestic-partner benefits.
BALANCE-SHEET WISDOM. The simple truth is that a lot of other issues matter more to businesspeople. Topping the list is job creation, with 29% of the respondents identifying it as the most important business issue in this year's campaign. With the economy now falling far short of producing the 300,000 new jobs a month the government initially projected, employment will remain a hot-button topic into November. "People don't know where the jobs are going to be created," Mader says.
The second biggest group of execs -- 23% -- cited the expanding budget deficit as their top concern. It could balloon to more than $2.75 trillion over the next 10 years if the Bush Administration makes its recently enacted tax cuts permanent without finding commensurate cuts and cost savings elsewhere.
In general, Mader says CEOs and other execs are leery about spending more than they take in. "Businesspeople are used to balance sheets," Mader points out. "They all know the benefits and liabilities associated with borrowing money."
WHERE'S THE GROWTH? For 21% of respondents, the outsourcing of jobs is the key issue. Mader says that result represents more a worry about how the trend affects employees rather than a concern about the practice itself. "The CEO will do what's best for the business," Mader says. An additional 12% say health-care costs is the key issue, 10% cite the war on terrorism, and 2% list immigration as the main concern.
Overall, the message from Big Business is clear: Generating economic growth is Issue No. 1 for this Presidential election. Fully 73% of respondents say taming the budget deficit and creating jobs are the most important business concerns. And although gay marriage may have some impact on some voters, Corporate America cares little.
posted on March 5, 2004 10:15:29 AM new
That is until the insurance premiums for health care for non spousal partners hit them in the wallet.
"An old, long-whiskered man once said to Teddy Roosevelt: 'I am a Democrat, my father was a Democrat, my grandfather was a Democrat.' Roosevelt then said: 'Then if your father had been a horse thief and your grandfather had been a horse thief, you would be a horse thief?'" --Will Rogers
posted on March 5, 2004 06:32:58 PM new
Lay them off...
I can just say that work has slowed down and let them draw unemployment... of course that is if one ever gets by my interview... I know what to ask in a way they don't know it is an illegal question(s)
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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[ edited by Twelvepole on Mar 5, 2004 07:12 PM ]
posted on March 5, 2004 08:28:56 PM new
Good answer Twelve.
"An old, long-whiskered man once said to Teddy Roosevelt: 'I am a Democrat, my father was a Democrat, my grandfather was a Democrat.' Roosevelt then said: 'Then if your father had been a horse thief and your grandfather had been a horse thief, you would be a horse thief?'" --Will Rogers
posted on March 5, 2004 09:05:44 PM new
The one area of corporate America that will profit from gay marriage is the marriage industry itself--not necessarily wedding dresses but the invitations, the photographs, flowers, the receptions, the gift registries--you know the drill. I'm sure it'll happen. Target, Marshall Field's, stores such as that.
I know that it's different and it's "other" from our normal way of thinking, but how can we criticize gays for lack of commitment and then criticize them for wanting a stable relationship sanctioned by humankind?
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posted on March 7, 2004 11:57:33 AM new
Lay them off great way to solve problems....
You would only be helping the Democrats Twelve by keeping the jobless rate up... Good way to support Bush.
of course that is if one ever gets by my interview... I know what to ask in a way they don't know it is an illegal question(s)
Let's hear one of your questions that isnt illegal. Besides you wouldn't be able to tell a straight man from a gay man unless he came on to you.
Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge
posted on March 7, 2004 01:03:00 PM new
So in other words Twleve there are no questions you can ask that would you can find out if some is gay.
Besides smart people applying for jobs at your company would be to wise to fall for your illegal tatics and your company would be hit by a lawsuit and you know it.
According to the EEOC it is discrimination when:
harassment on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, or age;
retaliation against an individual for filing a charge of discrimination, participating in an investigation, or opposing discriminatory practices;
employment decisions based on stereotypes or assumptions about the abilities, traits, or performance of individuals of a certain sex, race, age, religion, or ethnic group, or individuals with disabilities;
While discrimination based on sexual orientation is not covered by the EEOC some local municipalities have based laws banning discrimnation based on sexual orientation.
Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge
Bigotry and hate will not be tolerated.
[ edited by logansdad on Mar 7, 2004 01:18 PM ]
posted on March 7, 2004 02:38:34 PM new
I've worked for people like 12 that make my home life their personal business - loudly expressing why my doctor is not treating me correctly and why don't I see some alternative medicine person of their's and demanding to know why why my dentist can't treat me on Sunday or my wife take off instead of me do things so I don't have to take a morning off to see my lawyer.
They are little tyrants who are hell to work for.
I once hired on and when the boss came out and informed me he didn't allow his employees to speak to each other while working I explained that they only do that to you in prison if you are a real hard case and quit after less than a half hour.
But this doesn't surprise me at all that businesspersons feel this way. Sorry it's so long but the page has an annoying pop-up so I copied most of it.
