posted on April 15, 2004 08:04:16 PM new
A little problem here?
It appears Mrs. Kerry doesn't want to make her personal finances/tax statements public. Even though her husband has, in the past, insisted that others make theirs public.
Then there's also the subject of the fuzzy line between his finances and hers and paying back the money he borrowed on his/her?? house when he doesn't make enough to pay it back.
posted on April 15, 2004 08:39:49 PM new
My opinion is... no, it does not bother me. It is her money, she is not the one running for office nor have I seen her do much campaigning on his behalf. I think that many wives have differing opinions than their husbands and I kinds klike that she is not playing the happy stepford politician wife and has defined opinions of her own that she stands by. If her husband files seperately there is no reason she should have to make public disclosures. She's not the one running for office.
Oh, and yes I would say he same if she was a republican.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on April 15, 2004 09:13:09 PM new
My personal belief is that all politicians from city government up, should be required to disclose full financial statements.
"They say John Kerry is the first Democrat in History to raise $50 million dollars. Actually he once raised $500 million dollars in one second. He said 'I do.' Jay Leno.....
'We have dispatched Dr. David Kay...to search for the bio-warfare agents we believe hidden in Senator Kerry's forehead. If Senator Kerry has used botox as part of a wrinkle enrichment program, he is in violation of UN Resolution 752. Upon receiving Dr. Kay's report, the weapons of mass destruction that Senator Kerry so adamantly insists do not exist...may well be above his very nose.'" --Dick Cheney when asked whether John Kerry has had Botox treaments
posted on April 15, 2004 09:58:01 PM new
As long as Bush campaigns cleanly, she won't be using her money very extravagantly for her husband. In a recent interview:
"The joke in Republican circles goes that every time the couple, who are sometimes known as 'Cash and Kerry', retire to bed, Kerry is fundraising. In fact, under campaign finance law, individual donations are capped at $2,000. When the Kerry campaign was floundering last autumn. it was Kerry who mortgaged his Boston townhouse to raise money and has said he won't spend any Heinz money on a campaign - and she says she won't offer it - unless the Bush campaign engages in 'character assassination'." http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1130604,00.html
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
[ edited by bunnicula on Apr 15, 2004 10:01 PM ]
posted on April 15, 2004 09:59:56 PM new
Bear- Kerry has disclosed, however his wife files seperately - should she also be required when it is her husband and not her that is running?
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on April 15, 2004 10:25:58 PM new
Or perhaps she believes that her income and business dealing are of no business to those that resort to exactly the that form of petty childishness.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on April 15, 2004 10:29:33 PM new
There have already been reports that cooperations Teresa Heinz kerry has donated to have funded ads for John.
I can't think of one time the spouse of a candiate hasn't been asked to disclose financial records. As you can note by my link even the New York Times put pressure on Geraldine Ferraro's husband to disclose his financial info....and he did.
Maybe someone here can give a recent example when a politicians spouse hasn't.
But here is something that should be of concern to many.....the types of organizations Teresa Heinz kerry makes donations to.
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Teresa Heinz Kerry has financed the secretive Tides Foundation to the tune of more than $4 million over the years. The Tides Foundation, a "charity" established in 1976 by antiwar leftist activist Drummond Pike, distributes millions of dollars in grants every year to political organizations advocating far-Left causes.
The Tides Foundation and its closely allied Tides Center, which was spun off from the Foundation in 1996 but run by Drummond Pike, distributed nearly $66 million in grants in 2002 alone. In all, Tides has distributed more than $300 million for the Left. These funds went to rabid antiwar demonstrators, anti-trade demonstrators, domestic Islamist organizations, pro-terrorists legal groups, environmentalists, abortion partisans, extremist homosexual activists and open borders advocates.
During the years 1995-2001, the Howard Heinz Endowment, which Heinz Kerry chairs, gave Tides more than $4.3 million. The combined Heinz Endowments (composed of the Howard Heinz Endowment and the Vira I. Heinz Endowment) donated $1.6 million to establish the Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania, a Pittsburgh office of the San Francisco-based Tides Center. Since that time, the local branch has tirelessly pushed an anti-business agenda in the name of "preserving the environment."
However, it is the Tides Foundation's national organization whose connections are most disconcerting.
The Tides Foundation is a major source of revenue for some of the most extreme groups on the Left. Tides allows donors to anonymously contribute money to a host of causes; the donor simply makes the check out to Tides and instructs the Foundation where to forward the money. Tides does so. The Tides Center will even manage a left-wing project, for a nominal fee. Drummond Pike told The Chronicle of Philanthropy, "Anonymity is very important to most of the people we work with." That becomes understandable when one views the list of Tides grant recipients. And who are the beneficiaries of this money?
posted on April 15, 2004 10:40:06 PM newWhen the Kerry campaign was floundering last autumn. it was Kerry who mortgaged his Boston townhouse to raise money and has said he won't spend any Heinz money on a campaign.
But if the public doesn't get to see HER financial records we won't be able to tell if this is true or not. Did they really own the house jointly....if so when and how did he contribute to it's purchase? Especially when you look at his financial income the year the house was purchased.
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HEINZ ASSETS USED TO BOOST CAMPAIGN
In December '03, Kerry announced that he loaned his campaign $6.4 Million by mortgaging a share of a Boston home he jointly owns with his wife.
****Teresa Heinz Kerry paid cash for the Beacon Hill mansion in January 1995.*****
But according To Kerry's own 1994 senate personal financial disclosure [signed May, 15, 1995], Kerry's own personal net worth was somewhere between a negative $130,000 to positive $34,995.
The current loan on the house carries an annual interest payment of $200,000, records show, more than Kerry's $158,000 Senate salary.
Kerry's campaign insists he intends to pay off the 30-year mortgage himself.
"Sen. Kerry is a man who has considerable assets," spokesman Michael Meehan explains.
But Kerry's own financial disclosures show no assets sufficient to pay the loan -- or even a way to keep up with the interest payments!
posted on April 15, 2004 11:06:38 PM new
So....way back in 1994 or 1995 the Kerrys bought a house--maybe using her money--that is held in both their names. The only one owned jointly, BTW, out of several around the country.
So?? There are many, many families in this country where it is just the husband--or wife--who puts up the money for the house. And it is listed in both their names. Does the fact that one spouse put up the money make the house any less joint property if it is in both their names?
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
posted on April 15, 2004 11:27:47 PM new
That's the point....without disclosure of her personal finances there's a lot we don't know about her or what radical groups she supports. I believe the American public has a right to know.
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Anyone can do a google search and type in 'groups Teresa Heinz Kerry donated to' and one can read how after she makes a donation to their group....voila....they all of a sudden donate to the kerry campaign funds.
IF she is donating to groups that support anti-war activities or anti-American groups I believe the public has a right to know that before they vote to put her husband in office.
posted on April 16, 2004 12:01:49 AM new
Well thank you Fred. Always good to 'see' you here.
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fenix - she is not the one running for office nor have I seen her do much campaigning on his behalf.
To see all the campaigning she's doing one only needs to check on kerry's own website. She even has a blog listed there to report what it's like out on the campaign trail. Plus it lists her many media interviews shes given.
posted on April 16, 2004 05:11:18 AM new
Here we go. We can't find any legitimate to gripe about so we're "going petty". The last time I checked my calendar, we were in the 21st century. In case you missed it, women are now allowed to have their own bank accounts, their own jobs, their own credit history, their own life separate from their husband. If I'm not mistaken, that was what all the equal rights hullabaloo was about. Lest you forgot.
What she does with her money is her business and none of yours. She is not the one running for office, her husband is. I applaud her for standing up to people. I'm also willing to bet she's not the "obedient" housewife who takes crap from her husband. She's a strong and independent woman. There's nothing wrong with that.
Why do I get the feeling that most Republicans would like to see women thrown back into the '50s? You people really need to spend more time concentrating on what is important and leave the rest to the Star or National Inquirer.
posted on April 18, 2004 09:57:13 PM new
Reports have it that they just sold a 7 million dollar estate in Italy. Owning the property next door is Jennifer Annistan and Sean Penn. This is one reason I don't go to movies or watch sit coms on TV...
posted on April 19, 2004 04:48:36 AM new
Oh, and suppose trusting Bush with our money was a good idea? It was if you enjoy drowning in debt.
A lot of people have pre-nups and it doesn't mean they don't trust their partner. Heck, I never had a joint checking account with anyone, not even my husband. Pre-nups have become a necessary evil in these days of aggressive divorce attorneys.
Again, I ask - who gives a darn except those who think Bush is closer to God than the rest of us? IMO, he's going to get to hell a lot faster than he'll get to heaven. But, with the way my luck has been lately, he'll be condemned to haunt my home.
Always good to 'see' you here.
