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 bigpeepa
 
posted on May 14, 2004 03:54:56 AM new
All American workers need to know that the Bush White House is pressuring all 50 States to open state bids to foreign countries. This White House pressure will of course create more outsourcing of American jobs.

 
 Reamond
 
posted on May 14, 2004 06:24:13 AM new
PA and Iowa have told Bush to jam this policy.

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on May 14, 2004 02:30:47 PM new
Reamond, Where are all the republicans replies to this post. I guess they haven't figured out how to lie their way out of this one yet. The American middle and working class needs to remember that voting for Kerry is not only voting for a man its also voting for the Democrats. The only leaders that will look out for the middle and working class American People.
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 Helenjw
 
posted on May 14, 2004 03:17:56 PM new

The American middle and working class needs to remember that voting for Kerry is not only voting for a man its also voting for the Democrats.

Very good point, bigpeepa. A vote for Kerry is a vote for a new administration! According to CNN, Bush's job approval rating has taken a substantial hit, dropping to 46%. In the presidential campaign, Kerry wins the support of 51 percent of likely voters, compared to 46 percent for Bush

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on May 14, 2004 04:15:17 PM new
Republican reporting in here. No lies, as I haven't found any articles saying Bush is pressuring states to outsource.

I looked at Helen's link, where she says good point bigpeepa, and it is an article about a poll taken, not about outsourcing jobs in all 50 states, which I thought it would be.

???

And I'm not on here 24/7, as I'm sure a lot of people aren't. I get up, go OUT, come home, do things at home, hit the computer a couple times a day. Weekends are usually busy, so I'm not usually here..... that may explain why you don't see people rushing in here to reply right away.. and its spring, summer coming, people usually are out, or on vacation. But since you did ask 'where are all the Republicans...' I'm answering and I don't have an answer for you. My husband (said this before, but bears repeating I guess) is in IT, and not long ago signed another 2 year contract. Binding contract. So no outsourcing at his company, and he works for a large co. Me, I don't work. And I won't go into why again.




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 kiara
 
posted on May 14, 2004 04:16:05 PM new
I saw that on Lou Dobbs yesterday about PA and Iowa not going with the policy and other states may follow.

Kerry launched some good positive ads in April about his plans to make America a better place and it looks like they're starting to pay off for him. Bush wasted his ads on bashing Kerry so perhaps he doesn't have enough strong issues to run on.



WASHINGTON — Presumptive Democratic nominee John Kerry on Friday collected the endorsement of the International Brotherhood of Police Officers, a police union that backed President George Bush in the 2000 election.

"After three and a half years of disappointing leadership under George Bush, we need to change course in November and elect a president with a real record of supporting police officers and a lifetime of standing with law enforcement," IBPO President David Holway said in a statement provided by the Kerry campaign.


 
 Libra63
 
posted on May 14, 2004 05:33:28 PM new
OUTSOURCING- Mr Kerry is all in favor of Americans going to Canada for their medications. Right? This means that Pharmacists from the USA will travel to Canada to get their jobs as there isn't enough Canadian Pharmacists to handle the load. This is a rather high paying profession to be leaving the USA. No I haven't the post as I read it at the beginning of the week I C&P it but didn't post because of course all the crap that I would have gotten. So here is one high priced job going to Canada.

 
 Reamond
 
posted on May 14, 2004 10:28:25 PM new
The only leaders that will look out for the middle and working class American People.


Now bigpeepa, Bush gave each and every working class family a $100 - $200 tax break, and gave his rich buddies about $26,000 each, so we shouldn't complain.

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on May 15, 2004 05:37:29 AM new
Reamond, you are right I forgot about the big tax cut I got because its all gone and much more in my gas tank and higher drug cost.

 
 cblev65252
 
posted on May 15, 2004 07:10:02 AM new
libra

Some jobs are worth sacrificing? When people can no longer afford the medications they need to stay alive, who care about a pharmacist making $60,000 or more a year? There will be plenty of jobs still here for them, at least while some people are still getting insurance. Going to Canada is mainly for those who have no health insurance and who are not now getting their medications because they cannot afford them. I don't see what impact that will have on pharmacists. The old excuse that we pay more for medications in this country due to research is getting old - quickly. For all the research they are doing, you'd think they'd be able to cure something by now. At the moment, most aren't even trying to develop a new antibiotic. Why? Too costly. We certainly don't want them cutting into their mega profits now, do we?

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 davebraun
 
posted on May 15, 2004 09:29:53 AM new
The good of the many should far outweigh the good of the few. At any rate the profits are not realized to that great an extent by the local pharmacy, the profits are made by Pfizer, Glaxo, Genentech and a few others by gouging the consumer.

The argument that pharmacy jobs will leave the country is laughable.


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 fenix03
 
posted on May 15, 2004 11:10:39 AM new
Libra - I think you are missing the definition of a job leaving the country. When we talk about exporting jobs we are talking about companis laying off American workers to move operations out of the country leaving large groups of people unemployed. Someone moving to a different country because they can get paid more for the same job is not an exported job.


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 Libra63
 
posted on May 15, 2004 02:44:41 PM new
I am sorry I don't agree with you. I knew that excuses would be made as it happens with quite a few posts in the Round Table. Any job moving out of the country is outsourcing. They even said it in the news report. I don't think that just one Pharmacist will leave there will probably be many. I don't think it is just the retired that are getting their medicine from canada as many companies are stopping drug programs because they can't afford to pay for them. Soon the Canadian Government will stop all of this because drug companies will stop sending all the medication to Canada and their people will not be able to get them. Imagine the canadian citizens outrage when their drugs go up because of us. If they don't the canadian pharmacies will get on the bandwagon and start charging more for the drugs as I have noticed a rise in prices since I was checking about a year and half ago. They have jumped more than 25%.

If people would only do searches for free medication instead of blaming everyone else for their problems then they will find out that there are many drug companies that do give away free medicine.

Remember it was in the Clinton administration when NAFTA was signed so how do you blame Bush.

 
 Libra63
 
posted on May 15, 2004 02:49:34 PM new
davebraun, if you would check before you write Pfiser does give away free medication. They are a company for the people.

 
 fenix03
 
posted on May 15, 2004 02:53:26 PM new
Libra - you can disagre all you want but the job is not leaving the country. An individual who had the job may chose to leave but since the job itself still exists in the US to be filled by a USA based worker the job was not exported.

That is not an excuse - that is called a proper definition.

An exported job is one where the job itself leaves the country, not the employee.

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 bunnicula
 
posted on May 15, 2004 02:54:31 PM new
I knew that excuses would be made as it happens with quite a few posts in the Round Table. Any job moving out of the country is outsourcing.

However, the job itself isn't moving out of the country, only the person filling it. The position can be filled by another person.
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