kraftdinner
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posted on July 5, 2004 10:33:07 AM new
I read that you had to close your business while you were on vacation. I'm so sorry to hear that - it must have been difficult. Just remember when one door closes, another opens, so I hope everything works out for you. 
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crowfarm
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posted on July 5, 2004 11:12:49 AM new
Maybe she lost business because of her charming personality??????
I bet her handling of customers was a hoot!
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fenix03
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posted on July 5, 2004 11:20:43 AM new
Sorry to hear about this Twelve. Hope all is well. Knowing you I am sure you have three new avenues to explore. Best of Luck!
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 5, 2004 11:27:01 AM new
Crow, I bet in real life, Twelve isn't the same as he is here. He reminds me of my uncle. He was racist, homophobic and miserable. He vacationed in Louisianna for 4 months each year, yet would come home and complain about the blacks, the guns... you name it. He was a total hypocrit yet acted the part of a non-hypocrit when he was around the very people he couldn't stand. I have a feeling Twelve is like that in real life.
But, I still feel for Twelve in losing his business regardless of how I feel about his views. That must be tough.
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crowfarm
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posted on July 5, 2004 11:34:21 AM new
kraft, the definition of a hypocrit is someone who believes one way and acts another.
Yes, twelve would've had to treat blacks, homosexual, poor, women, very well to keep them as customers but twelve hates too much to last long doing that.
You notice twelve hasn't been answering here?
She'll take her meds and come back with the other ID.
And, sorry, but twelve's nastiness leads me to believe she deserves all the bad luck she gets.
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Helenjw
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posted on July 5, 2004 11:35:21 AM new
crowfarm
I don't believe we are showing an appropriate amount of commiseration. Wonder why?
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crowfarm
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posted on July 5, 2004 11:39:19 AM new
Very clear, Helen, I like GOOD people.
You's good!
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Helenjw
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posted on July 5, 2004 11:45:17 AM new
[ edited by Helenjw on Jul 5, 2004 04:54 PM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 5, 2004 12:16:24 PM new
I partly agree. If there was an internet jail for people who's views, in my opinion, were twisted, Twelve would be in there. On the other hand, losing a business has to be tough for anyone, no matter what your views about life are.
If you choose to see people as either good or bad based on what they say, you're being narrow-minded. Twelve has called me names galore, but to have it affect me would only be added baggage on my shoulders, not his, so why bother?
Although this is just a message board, there are real people with real feelings here. Losing a business and letting go of your employees has to be difficult.
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crowfarm
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posted on July 5, 2004 12:25:33 PM new
Kraft, I like your post because you're being very kind.....you's good.
However, I believe you CAN judge people on what they say and twelve's post have not only been extremely juvenile (and not in a "fun" way) but downright nasty.
Helen and I haven't seen eye to eye on every topic but I still like and respect her as I do you.
Twelve's insults don't affect me nor do any other ignorant posts.
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 5, 2004 01:07:09 PM new
Thanks Crowfarm.
Yes, Twelve's posts are usually nasty, hypocritical and ridiculous, but they get people talking and are ALWAYS good for deep belly laughs. His views only serve to cement my own convictions even further in cement, so he can't be all that bad.
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davebraun
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posted on July 5, 2004 01:30:28 PM new
Twelve chose to lose his business. He is obviously lazy and expects others to pick up the slack for him.
In life we make all choices, it's not like we're born to succeed .
Had he worked harder he would not have failed
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 5, 2004 01:30:45 PM new
She? I am more man than you could even dream about crowfarm...
Already had something in the fire, reason I closed up.... my own fault, eyes bigger than my wallet..
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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crowfarm
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posted on July 5, 2004 01:37:42 PM new
davebraun, subtle...too subtle for some but I got it.
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neroter12
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posted on July 5, 2004 01:49:05 PM new
Tweleve, did you really lose your business??
See, according to everything they say about you - one would think you were so filled with false pride, that you could never mention that here?
I saw it also and I was immediately sorry for your trouble when I read it, if its true. I was wondering if you were just being sarcastic. (But leave to kraft to broach the subject! :-0) Sometimes its a blessing to be innocent, or innocent sounding..lol) But anyway I figured you'd land on your feet just fine if it were true. Good luck with your new ventures!
nero.
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 5, 2004 02:08:36 PM new
That's right dave, but at least my health insurance is paid for 
Not like some who sponge off the government.
and say they don't.
Or beat their wives and claim others do the same.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 5, 2004 02:10:05 PM new
Yes I did close my business, I have a new job... no one's fault but my own.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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cblev65252
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posted on July 5, 2004 07:44:49 PM new
davebraun
I got it as well.
twelvepole
God knows we hardly ever agree on anything, but I am terribly sorry to hear this news. What kraft said about the door is very true.
Cheryl
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davebraun
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posted on July 5, 2004 07:48:25 PM new
Don't really know where you're coming from butboy (oh I mean 12holes).
Not on the dole, am in a business of my own and pay insurance out of pocket. It's excessive but I pay.
As to wife yes I have one and wouldn't consider beating her, you on the other hand....naw we won't go there.
Hope your hormones quit raging, it must be difficult for you to be a woman trapped in a boys body.
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 5, 2004 07:54:10 PM new
Considering you are the one who originally brought up wife beating there dave,as so many amature psychologists like to point out... you're thinking and talking about it, you must be doing it...
of course many here already know what a waste you are... so we don't have to go there.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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dadofstickboy
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posted on July 5, 2004 08:04:28 PM new
I don't care where you went or why.
I wish you the best of luck!
AND:
I certainly hope they don't smoke there!
Or:
It won't be long and you will be working by yourself!
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davebraun
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posted on July 5, 2004 08:07:05 PM new
I brought up wife beating in the context of the classic no win question "Do you still beat your wife" not as a accusation that you actually do. Simply an example of the type of lose, lose questioning the right loves to employ.
A simple yes or no will be sufficient.
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yellowstone
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posted on July 5, 2004 08:14:35 PM new
Hey where's our little newbie board troll?? Isn't this just the sort of fighting discussion she enjoys as entertainment??
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profe51
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posted on July 5, 2004 10:41:50 PM new
*ahem* Hypocrite ends with an 'e'.
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Belief? What do I believe in? I believe in sun. In rock. In the dogma of the sun and the doctrine of the rock. I believe in blood, fire, woman, rivers, eagles, storms, drums, flutes, banjos, and broom-tailed horses....
Edward Abbey
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Linda_K
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posted on July 5, 2004 10:51:09 PM new
twelvepole - I too am very sorry to read about your business. Best of luck in whatever choice you make - sincerely.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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Libra63
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posted on July 7, 2004 10:00:46 AM new
Sorry to hear your leaving 12pole. Linda will have a tough time without you. Good Luck in your new endeavers and stop back when you have a chance.
Since my computer has been down I have gone to the library to read this board and I find that it is a difficult one to post to especially since crowfarm has entered the picture. His/her language is not becoming to even a male so therefore I am going to be selective to what I post to. Kiara, KD, Helen, fenix are difficult to communicate with since we view topics different but Crowfarm in my estimation has gone over the limit with the language so therefore I will still read and not post. I feel and I hope others do also think that is is not necessary to post like that. I guess I lived in a different era that it (crowfarm) did since I never used that language. Now please don't beat me up to bad just stating how I feel. JMHO
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Helenjw
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posted on July 7, 2004 10:53:07 AM new
First, Libra...
Twelvepole said nothing about leaving.
You choose to spend most of your time attacking nearly everyone here -- especially the ones that you mentioned and now crowfarm. You forgot to mention Reamond who you have also insulted. All of these posters that you complain about have good characteristics in common ie., intelligence, integrity and consideration. When they are spoken to in a respectful manner, they all respond politely.
If you speak nicely to these posters you will have nothing to worry about.
Helen
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parklane64
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posted on July 7, 2004 11:09:47 AM new
Congratulations on not having to deal with twits in a public venue anymore, Twelvepole. One does make choices.
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You know...the best way to defeat a liberal is to let them speak.
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parklane64
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posted on July 7, 2004 11:10:48 AM new
Congratulations on not having to deal with twits in a public venue anymore, Twelvepole. One does make choices.
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You know...the best way to defeat a liberal is to let them speak.
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kiara
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posted on July 7, 2004 11:45:32 AM new
Libra, I haven't been around here a whole lot lately but I've glanced over the threads now and then and I don't see any bad language by crowfarm. You had no problem with twelvepole calling Helen and I c__ts and nowhere did you object to it, was crowfarm saying worse than that? Did you use that word in your era so it's okay with you?
Your problem is that you think you can just say your view and that everyone that doesn't agree with you should just shut up and not discuss the issue further. And how many times have you come in here with your whine and said you won't post anymore and next thing you're back insulting someone else and then when they respond you go into a pout all over again?
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