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 maggiemuggins
 
posted on July 9, 2004 01:22:41 PM new
Helen.. it hurts, can I get down yet?LOL

If I may be serious for just a minute or two..
I have been accused of "Sitting on the Fence" by some and have been defended by others for keeping my choices to myself..

The truth is ..I have been on the fence....
I am struggling this election. I have always been a staunch/stanch Democrat.. but this election.. I admit I am waffling..
The Party Lines have blurred and I find myself not in total agreement with either Party on all issues..

Then add to this..the choice of leadership..
on one hand... I dislike and mistrust President Bush..as we say here in the South.."with a purple passion"....
but.........I am not impressed with John Kerry either.. In past elections I was clear on my choices..this time around I'm still voting Democrat.. but less enthusiastically.

Is anyone else struggling with their decision this election..? Maggie

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 01:29:44 PM new
NO! Bush is a lying, sneaky, nasty, egotistical, war evading, cowardly, two faced, ignorant, illiterate, slime bag!

And the people who control him are worse!


There ain't no goddam fence!


Oh,Hi, Maggie!

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on July 9, 2004 01:39:23 PM new
Okay.. I hear you Crow.. LOL.. and I agree with you about Bush.. I guess he is still the best reason to vote Democrat.. but I don't feel enthusiasm for Kerry.. so I will vote for my party and hope he will grow on me. I just haven't made the connection with him yet. mm

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on July 9, 2004 01:40:45 PM new
Missed your meds today did you crow.







"The natural family is a man and woman bound in a lifelong covenant of marriage for the purposes of:
*the continuation of the human species,
*the rearing of children,
*the regulation of sexuality,
*the provision of mutual support and protection,
*the creation of an altruistic domestic economy, and
*the maintenance of bonds between the generations."
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 01:44:02 PM new
Maggie, IF...IF I were a woman I'd think making a "connection" with Edwards would be more fun!
Seriously, I know what you mean so I'm trying to see behind the rather imposing (but Presidential) face and find the heart of the man.
I admit that I know more about his wife but that's a good thing.....he must have something going for him if he chose HER and GOT her!

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 01:46:57 PM new
Bear, in the words of your dignified, intelligent Vice-President (and acting president) DICK Cheney....go F#@* yourself!


Oh, Cheney's right ...it needed to be said and I feel so much better!

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on July 9, 2004 01:50:55 PM new
That's for sure, Crow! The woman has class and brains in abundance. Now the 2008 election is the one I am enthusiastically anticipating! MM

LOL..ROFLMAO!!! Crow plopped a big wet one on you Bear.. are you still sniffing?
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Jul 9, 2004 01:53 PM ]
 
 cblev65252
 
posted on July 9, 2004 02:48:17 PM new
I'm not struggling here at all. Bush is a liar, a cheat, a thief, a hypocrit, a . . . . guess I don't need to go on. I don't see Kerry's changing positions on issues as all that awful. I see it as being flexible and having the ability to see all sides and maybe coming to the realization that what he at first thought was the right thing, may not have been at all. I change my mind sometimes on some issues once I have talked to people and have seen the other side. If I didn't, I'd consider myself one-sided and stiff. There is one thing I will not change my mind on and that's how I feel about Bush as both president and a man. And, I will not now or ever vote Republican. It's just not who I am.


Cheryl
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 02:56:31 PM new
Thanks Cheryl, how could I forget liar, cheat, thief!


Maggie, if we use initials and are very quiet.....who do you want to see in 2008?
You show me yours and I'll show you mine!

You,too, cheryl, got any wishes for 2008?

 
 cblev65252
 
posted on July 9, 2004 03:03:06 PM new
crowfarm

DJK. I'd like to see him run for governor of Ohio first, though. We really need to lose our governor. As if gas prices weren't high enough, he just approved a gas tax hike. Our gas is now up to almost $2 a gallon again and it looks like, thanks to him, that's where it will stay.

Actually, the only president we've had in a long time that I really liked was Clinton. We had a succession of real losers before him. Even though he was a Democrat, I'm including Johnson in that list of losers!

Cheryl
[ edited by cblev65252 on Jul 9, 2004 03:03 PM ]
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 03:07:50 PM new
OOooSorry cheryl, who's DJK?

 
 cblev65252
 
posted on July 9, 2004 03:13:11 PM new
Dennis J Kucinich - my friend and hero for all he's done for us here in Congress. The one and only campaigner who never wavered from his convictions.

Cheryl
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on July 9, 2004 03:13:49 PM new
okay.. I'll be very quiet..HC
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Jul 9, 2004 03:15 PM ]
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 03:20:15 PM new
OH Cheryl Him! Yup, VERY bright man...I have a flyer around here somewhere with his views ...I'll have to dig it out. And I won't even make a single remark about sshhh...bad hair.




And Maggie ..you mean HILLARY CLINTON! You mean Billy's wife! YEEHAWW!! You betcha!

My dream ticket HC and C Clinton............

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 03:53:17 PM new
Maggie said "bum" AHA! Ol'Sherlock here just caught on...you're a BRIT!
Right? Right? Right?

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on July 9, 2004 04:04:36 PM new
ROFLMAO....I wondered when someone would see my bum and call me a Brit!! LOL
I didn't think it was going to be you Crow!

No, not a Brit.. and to be honest... I take that as an insult..I lived in close quarters with a group of Brits for a year in Nigeria.. and found them to be the most obnoxious people, next to the French, that I have ever met..of course, they didn't think much of Americans either. Well there I go again.. being Politically Correct.. knocked the Brits and French in one fell swoop!

I do watch BBC America though..
maggie


 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 04:33:23 PM new
Bloody hell, Maggie, you've read the posts in here and you think the Brits and French are obnoxious??????????
Proves once again...no country has that market cornered!

I'm an Anglophile, don't watch much American TV but lots of BBC. I truly believe England is populated by charming people in quaint little cottages nestled in rolling hills where a murder occurs every once in a while and is solved by a woman with a cat..
I also believe trolls live in a big tree in my yard.

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on July 9, 2004 05:02:22 PM new
Well.. at least you didn't suspect me of being a British Troll up in your tree!

I too was all enamored with the Brits until I had to live with them.. I probably shouldn't judge all Brits on the behavior of those few, and the mode of living while in Nigeria had a lot to do with it..

We all had domestic help in our homes, cook,house keeper, yardman, driver, guards etc. Well.. the Brits took the roll of Lord and Master a little to seriously.. They were down right mean and nasty to them. I was very uncomfortable with their behavior. Of course.. being the shy, timid type..lol..NOT.. I had to speak my mind and that didn't sit well with them at all..
Now, while touring England.. I never had a problem..
Frenchmen don't mean to be obnoxious.. they just are. The French in Canada are not as obnoxious as the French from France..LOL

HA..How to win friends and influence people.. I'm kind of obnoxious myself..Lol

It ticked me off when they took Eastenders off of BBC America.. watched it for years and then they zapped it..
Well back to my book.. I am reading another good Kellerman mystery. MM

 
 cherishedclutter
 
posted on July 9, 2004 05:20:29 PM new
2008 - Kerry's 2nd term, of course

But, I do admit,currently I am more anti-Bush than pro Kerry.

 
 parklane64
 
posted on July 9, 2004 06:14:44 PM new
My dirty little secret, I vote non-incumbent. Don't let them get comfortable, keep the pot stirred. I also have a tendency to back responsible moderate liberals, such as Senator Diane Feinstein. Although I grimace when I vote for her. I made an exception for RR, he had a vision that took eight years.....

__________________

You know...the best way to defeat a liberal is to let them speak.
 
 profe51
 
posted on July 9, 2004 07:03:16 PM new
No struggle here...any ambivalence I may feel for Kerry is outweighed by my distaste for Bush, and particularly for those who send commands into his teeny brain.

edited to add "for Kerry"
___________________________________
Beware the man of one book.
- Thomas Aquinas
[ edited by profe51 on Jul 9, 2004 07:04 PM ]
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 08:02:56 PM new
Hey maggie are you old enough to remember "Good Neighbors", "To the Manor Born", "Fawlty Towers"??

What were you doing in Nigeria?

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on July 9, 2004 08:07:43 PM new
Maggie, Since the days of John Kennedy, I have always supported the American middle and working class people. Why, because I believe in them and in my view the middle and working class truly love this country. History shows the middle and working class people built this country and fought and died for it. I really hope and pray if John Kerry and John Edwards wins this election they don't forget who got them there. Like you and I plus millions of other people. I have reservations about Kerry and the democrats, but I am also willing to give Kerry and Edwards a chance.
[ edited by bigpeepa on Jul 9, 2004 08:13 PM ]
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on July 9, 2004 08:36:15 PM new
Bigpeepa..thank you for your honesty.
Considering the alternative...we really don't have a choice. My uncertainty about John Kerry does not compare to my fear and dread of another four years with Bush.

Hi Crow.. yes I remember To the manor born and I think Fawlty Towers is still on re-run from time to time. I don't remember Good Neighbors. I used to enjoy Keeping up Appearances and Coronation Street too. Then there is Masterpiece Theater on PBS.. another good one.

We are known as "oil Field Trash, with Class" LOL.. Work over in Nigeria was oil related... it was quite an experience...one that I don't ever wish to repeat. MM

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 9, 2004 08:58:51 PM new
Doesn't sound like a great vacation destination. I'd rather go to Iowa!


I got ,on video, 13 episodes of "All Creatures Great and Small"....loved it!

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on July 9, 2004 11:40:18 PM new
Poor crowbait, if you weren't so despicable you might be funny.











"The natural family is a man and woman bound in a lifelong covenant of marriage for the purposes of:
*the continuation of the human species,
*the rearing of children,
*the regulation of sexuality,
*the provision of mutual support and protection,
*the creation of an altruistic domestic economy, and
*the maintenance of bonds between the generations."
 
 crowfarm
 
posted on July 10, 2004 04:32:47 AM new
Bear why am I despicable.....geeez don't hate me 'cause I can think and you can only do bumper stickers!

Go stick your nose back in the cow pies you love so much.

Ya know bear, you'd could actually learn something if you'd quit listening to those two big whores, Ann and Rush. Then maybe you could think of something better to write in your posts besides that tired old "crowbait".....you're worse than insulting or nasty....you're booorrrrring!

 
 
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