posted on August 29, 2004 09:47:16 AM new
Thousands of Demonstrators Hit NYC Streets
Updated 12:03 PM ET August 29, 2004
By TOM RAUM
NEW YORK (AP) - Tens of thousands of demonstrators took to the fortified streets of Manhattan on Sunday to protest President Bush's foreign and domestic policies as Republican delegates gathered to nominate the president for a second term.
A day ahead of the start of the Republican National Convention, protesters gathered 20 blocks south of the convention site. "The majority of this country wants the Bush administration out of office," filmmaker and Bush critic Michael Moore told the crowd.
Meanwhile, Bush suggested in an interview with Time magazine that he still would have gone into Iraq but with different tactics if he had known "that an enemy that should have surrendered or been done in escaped and lived to fight another day."
He called the swift military offensive that led to the fall of Baghdad in April 2003 "a catastrophic success" in light of the fact that fighting continues to this day despite the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's government.
Pre-convention polls showed the presidential race evenly split between Bush and Democrat John Kerry, although the challenger has lost ground since his convention in Boston a month ago. The four-day Republican convention opens Monday.
Up to 250,000 demonstrators were expected to march up Seventh Avenue past the Madison Square Garden convention site.
"Today we send our message," said Leslie Cagan, leader of United for Peace and Justice, the march's organizer. As marchers began their protest, one handmade sign read, "Iraq and Vietnam. So many deliberate lies. So many wasted lives."
A large banner said, "Save America. Defeat Bush." People poked their heads out of apartment windows to watch the marchers in the sweltering heat.
Moore, the director of "Fahrenheit 9-11," told fellow protesters that "the majority never voted for the Bush administration, and the majority are here to say, `It's time to have our country back in our hands.'"
New York police said more than 300 people had been arrested through Saturday night for disorderly conduct and convention-related incidents.
On the eve of the convention, politicians of both parties made the rounds of television talk shows.
Sen. Zell Miller, a Georgia Democrat who will deliver the keynote address Wednesday night, said he'd never voted for a Republican for president "but I'm going to this time."
Kerry "is not in the mainstream of this country. He's way to the left of this country," Miller said on Fox News Sunday.
Bush went to church Sunday morning, rode his mountain bike and was flying later to Wheeling, W.Va., for a rally. He was campaigning in battleground states as he makes his way to this overwhelmingly Democratic convention city.
Kerry was spending the day at his beachfront home in Nantucket, Mass., where he planned to plot strategy for the final two months of the presidential campaign.
"We've got 66 days to go, and I'm in a fighting mood," he said on Saturday during a campaign visit to Washington state.
Meanwhile, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., said that Bush's re-election "would be a disaster." Interviewed on NBC's "Meet the Press," Clinton accused the president of "four years of unaccountable use of power" and of a failed economic policy.
Asked if she agreed with Kerry's call for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to resign, Clinton said, "I'm hoping the entire administration is fired on Nov. 2."
On Saturday, thousands of abortion rights protesters marched across the Brooklyn Bridge.
Besides the protest march past the convention site, several other events were planned, including a gay rights demonstration and a vigil in Central Park by a group of Sept. 11 families opposed to the Iraq war.
The New York Daily News made a front-page pitch for calm on Sunday, publishing a front-page editorial with the headline, "Play Nice."
The convention site is several miles north of Ground Zero, where two hijacked planes destroyed both towers of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Nearly 3,000 people died there, at the Pentagon and at a crash site in Pennsylvania.
Thousands of police guarded New York roadways, bridges, tunnels and ports, while vehicle restrictions in an 18-square-block area around the Garden snarled traffic in a city already congested""
Hey all you neocons...wanna visit New York today ?
posted on August 29, 2004 10:10:44 AM new
Got it on Crowfarm... only wish I was there!
Doc
Edited for spelling..
[ edited by drdolittle on Aug 29, 2004 10:12 AM ]
posted on August 29, 2004 10:39:39 AM new
You got that right helen, for once, President Bush is and will continue to make history that is good for the US, maybe in 2008 the Dems can get a candidate into the White House again.
posted on August 29, 2004 10:46:12 AM new
Thanks for the pic Helen !
The Republicans brought it to Democratic New York and now the New Yorkers are bringing it to THEM!
AND yellowstone, only a rabid neonazicon like you can stereo-type 1/4 million people in a few words......great thinking and SO dumb!
[ edited by crowfarm on Aug 29, 2004 10:49 AM ]
posted on August 29, 2004 10:59:03 AM new
Twelve, you're just plain stupid.
I see you love me so much you save my posts well I don't like you at all.
And, I just see you with your head down , lower lip quivering as it protrudes and you saying just like a little sulking kid...."yeah, like we believe anything you say....
Your feeble attempts at comments about this protest .....too laughable.
posted on August 29, 2004 11:03:20 AM new
Those demonstraters are just the stupid people of society of cannot get a job and have too much time on their hands.
posted on August 29, 2004 11:07:05 AM new
The protestors are actually going to help Republicans. Regular Americans will identify themselves more with Republicans than the hoardes of protesting freaks and weirdos.
posted on August 29, 2004 11:10:15 AM new
Sure Corwfarm... I just want all the people to see what a liar you are... not to believed at all... I will continue to point that out... you are a liar, you don't do what you say, do you really believe what you write?
It is obvious from previous posts that you do not, so why would one believe what you are writing now?
You have proven yourself time and again to be a liar...
Oh and I am so broken hearted crowfart doesn't like me... "sniff"...
posted on August 29, 2004 11:27:11 AM new
Wow this is quite incredible. There was not this much protest whan bush #1 lost his second term. If the turnout this fall is real high bush is sunk.
posted on August 29, 2004 11:47:17 AM new
Quote: "Washed or unwashed ....
THEY VOTE"
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Crowfarm: you can't really believe that!
Percentage of voting age population of the US who voted in the last presidential election=51.3%
posted on August 29, 2004 12:18:00 PM new
I AM GEORGE BUSH AND I APPROVE OF THIS CONVENTION!!!! BUT I DON'T APPROVE OF ALL THOSE STINKY,DIRTY,TERRORISTS,COMMUNIST,ANTI-CHRIST,ANTI AMERICAN,HIPPIE FREAKS,WEIRDO PEOPLE OUTSIDE WITH PROTEST SIGNS.
posted on August 29, 2004 12:25:49 PM new
Quote" I AM GEORGE BUSH AND I APPROVE OF THIS CONVENTION!!!! BUT I DON'T APPROVE OF ALL THOSE STINKY,DIRTY,TERRORISTS,COMMUNIST,ANTI-CHRIST,ANTI AMERICAN,HIPPIE FREAKS,WEIRDO PEOPLE OUTSIDE WITH PROTEST SIGNS."
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Thank you bigpeepa! At last you are getting it right. You described those people to a T.
Notice I posted your whole quote not just a portion picked out to make it look like something else, like you did mine.
Oh, and I see you're still shouting.
So your moral is when you can't refute the facts, shout. Huh.
posted on August 29, 2004 12:47:50 PM new
You just have to love the unintellictual comments from the likes of ebayauctionguy and bear.
It really makes me wonder if they are nothing more than children playing on their parents computer. can bear actually offer some intellectual insight? can eag finally tell us, now that the RNC is happening, why oh why, he feels as though Dick Cheney is the greatest vice-president to ever grace our wonderful country?
Why can they only point to the "freaks and weirdos?" They actually want to believe that all Democrats are this way. This is how they wish to portray those who can actually debate them on issues, but the irony is that neither ebayauctionguy or bear can debate an issue. They, like their president need to use colorful images that appeal to children to make their point. Too bad that George W. Bush doesn't read these threads.
[ edited by rustygumbo on Aug 29, 2004 12:49 PM ]
posted on August 29, 2004 03:02:11 PM new
etexbill
posted on August 29, 2004 12:25:49 PM
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Quote" I AM GEORGE BUSH AND I APPROVE OF THIS CONVENTION!!!! BUT I DON'T APPROVE OF ALL THOSE STINKY,DIRTY,TERRORISTS,COMMUNIST,ANTI-CHRIST,ANTI AMERICAN,HIPPIE FREAKS,WEIRDO PEOPLE OUTSIDE WITH PROTEST SIGNS."
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Thank you bigpeepa! At last you are getting it right. You described those people to a T.
Notice I posted your whole quote not just a portion picked out to make it look like something else, like you did mine.
Oh, and I see you're still shouting.
So your moral is when you can't refute the facts, shout. Huh.
posted on August 29, 2004 03:13:34 PM new
Well you see the Republicans went to a Highly populated Democratic state to hold their convention. Boo Hoo the Democrats don't want them there. To bad it is a free country. Of course there will be protesters. Today is Sunday, more people on the street than usual. Look on Monday the streets will be empty. The City of NY will make a great profit with all the protesters that land in jail. This just shows the ingornace of the Democratic Party. What are they afraid of?
The Democrats had to go to Boston where they held their convention and the Republicans left them alone to do their business in peace.
What good does it do to protest. Just shows how ignorant those protesters are, just like the ones ofter the Vietnam War like JK and Jane Fonda.
Seems like the Democrats are just stirring up trouble only to backfire in the end.
posted on August 29, 2004 03:40:54 PM new
Libra says,
"Well you see the Republicans went to a Highly populated Democratic state to hold their convention. Boo Hoo the Democrats don't want them there. To bad it is a free country. Of course there will be protesters. Today is Sunday, more people on the street than usual. Look on Monday the streets will be empty. The City of NY will make a great profit with all the protesters that land in jail. This just shows the ingornace of the Democratic Party. What are they afraid of? "
First, when have the streets of NY been empty on Monday? Why do you think that will be? Did you expect protesters 365 days a year, 24/7 forever?
Second, Ignorance isn't spelled "ingornace".
You think protesters are ignorant, they're afraid. Rather an illogical conclusion....if they were afraid they wouldn't be there !
If protesters were afraid of arrest we never would've had a country!!! Have that scion of American history, extexbill, 'splain it to you.
Libra, "Boo Hoo the Democrats don't want them there."
No, ditz, they are protesting bush NOT the convention although there are many New Yorkers who didn't want the convention there because bush didn't give them the support they needed after 9/11....Uh, the speech wasn't "help".
Libra,"The Democrats had (???) to go to Boston where they held their convention and the Republicans left them alone to do their business in peace."
BS! There was no giant protest...uh, maybe because the Democrats aren't as unpopular as bushy???
The Republicans were right there with their "slur" room down the block. Slimey Norm Coleman was there to jump on and spin everything said at the convention.
posted on August 29, 2004 03:43:57 PM new
extex, put your teeth in and watch the protest before you shoot off your mouth about what kind of people are there ...you haven't a clue.
posted on August 29, 2004 03:52:47 PM new
Again the eloquently speaking and typing crowfarm comes in to correct spelling errors. But don't correct hers. NO! What a childish game you play. When the chips are down strike anywhere possible. That is your motto crowfarm.
Maybe you should go to St. Paul and try to convince your Democratic Mayor that he shouldn't vote Republican. Get over it...
posted on August 29, 2004 04:10:57 PM new
Libra63, you said about the Anti Bush protesters in New York.
Libra63 said, "The City of NY will make a great profit with all the protesters that land in jail. This just shows the ingornace of the Democratic Party."
It will cost the city of NY a lot of money because Bush has failed in his leadership so badly. Because Bush has failed so badly he now has Hundreds of Thousand of people in the streets NYC protesting against him.
Bush and the Republican Party are the ones costing NYC money. Republicans thought they could wrap themselves in the flag about 9-11.
The people of NYC know about what really happened before and after 9-11. The people of NYC are not happy with the Republicans.
About "great profit" from protesters landing in jail. Sure some protesters will wind up in jail as you said. If I could, I would gladly trade you the money NYC picks up in fines, for the money Bush has cost NYC for Security. I now better understand why you support Bush. You don't seem to understand money very well.
posted on August 29, 2004 04:57:21 PM new
Crowfarm says;
AND yellowstone, only a rabid neonazicon like you can stereo-type 1/4 million people in a few words......great thinking and SO dumb!
Well, if the rubber manure boot fits then that's just the way it is. I reiterate to your question about visiting NY; Sure why not, 250,000 screaming, sandal wearing, somewhat fragrant, pacifist hippies don't scare me.
.....and you Crowfarm don't scare me either, but you do constantly make me laugh with your diatripe. By the way, PU, you need to take a bath, your posts really stink.
Rustygumbo then says;
Why can they only point to the "freaks and weirdos?" They actually want to believe that all Democrats are this way.
You just admited that there are freaks and weirdos in the Democratic party, are you really Terry Kerry in RL??
