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 CBlev65252
 
posted on September 10, 2004 05:20:31 AM new
For the second time this week, we are faced with an Amber Alert. The first was a 15 year old Amherst girl. Now this morning I wake up to an Amber Alert for a 23 month old boy in Lakewood. His abducter is the wife of a convicted sexual preditor.

A known pedophile. . . one that is allowed to move into a neighborhood known to be full of children. Within a few blocks on all sides of my granddaughter's school, live the highest number of convicted pedophiles and sex offenders in this county. I cannot understand this state, or any other state for that matter, not doing more to protect our children. As far as I am concerned neither a pedophile nor a sex offender have any rights at all. They don't have the right to live where they want when that means they choose to live where there are plenty of potential victims. They don't have the right to say they've served their time and now should be allowed to go on with their lives. Are their victims going on with their lives or are they doomed to a lifetime of mental and physical anguish?

Everyone here knows I am a liberal. But, even liberals have a line and this one is it. IMO, serving prison time isn't enough. It's a known fact that you cannot "cure" these people. You can't put them on drugs that you cannot force them to take. . .you can't be with them 24/7. Cut it off. Let them piss through a colostomy bag. Mame them and mar them the way they've done their victims. There is no crime more heinous than that against a child whether it be here at home or during wartime. I'm not talking about the so-called daycare panic we saw back in the 80's and early 90's. Most of those cases have proven to be frauds. I'm talking about cases such as this. Where the abductor is a known pedophile.

I pray for the safe return of both these children. I hope the wrath of God comes down on these abductors hard and furious. My niece, Amanda Berry, has been missing since April 21, 2003. We don't expect her return. As a society, haven't we had enough?

Cheryl

. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Sep 10, 2004 05:34 AM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on September 10, 2004 10:42:38 AM new
Cut it off. Let them piss through a colostomy bag. Mame them and mar them the way they've done their victims.


Boy cheryl....that's a pretty violent reaction for a 'humane society' society to take. Weren't you against the prison abuse in Iraq?...that didn't involve any of the methods you've recommended and these people were arrested for trying to kill our troops.

I don't think your 'solution' would be effective at all. The problem is in their minds...and without their penis' they can and most likely still would molest children...just with a different 'object'.



I do, however, very much understand your rage and especially with having been so terribly affected by this crime in your own family. I'm sorry to learn about that.


My solution would be to keep them locked up for LIFE. There's no excuse for not doing that since, as you say, they can't be 'cured' and they're just released to offend again.


To me it's a sad comment on how much we don't value our children when the rights of these sicko's are more important than protecting our children.


 
 fenix03
 
posted on September 10, 2004 11:18:53 AM new
Cheryl - just out of curiosity - where are the childless neighborhoods in your area where these people could choose to live but have decided not to? I don't know about Ohio, but I know that California outlawed Adult Communities a long time ago.


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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 10, 2004 11:53:41 AM new
I understand how you feel, Cheryl. Having pedophiles living in your neighbourhood is like a bunch of time bombs waiting to go off. There's something weird about our society that refuses to treat these people with medications they need because of this sick sense about harming someones ability to procreate. They're sick and need to be helped - they should be castrated imo, but people would rather see children harmed than a man loose his jewels. How stupid is that?

 
 fenix03
 
posted on September 10, 2004 12:34:03 PM new
You both seem to be under the mistaken impression that pedophelia is a physical disease which can be treated with physical soluions. that's like believing that rapists just want to get laid.

You treat these diseases where they exist... in the mind. Remove a rapists genitals and he'll just find a substitute method. You have to remove the urge.


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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 parklane64
 
posted on September 10, 2004 12:38:26 PM new
Cheryl, I was thinking of pointing out your obvious bias, until you mentioned your niece. To experience the loss of a child is horrible and one can only imagine the heartache. You are right on this subject, once these type of people become predators they will not change. Yes, they need a child-less neighborhood! And restriction of movement. Many of them will candidly admit, while in prison, that they look forward to release so they can victimize some more.

My thoughts and prayers are for the innocents these monsters choose as victims of their attention.

Added: http://www.projectjason.org/Faces.html
sigh, bottom middle.

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Hebrews 13:8
[ edited by parklane64 on Sep 10, 2004 12:49 PM ]
 
 desquirrel
 
posted on September 10, 2004 01:03:31 PM new
"Everyone here knows I am a liberal."

Agreed. And here is my personal "problem" with most liberals. Everybody has rights, blah, blah, - except for certain people.

Substitute "spy" for pedophile and it's:

"You can't tap his phone, he paid for his dabble into espionage."


 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 10, 2004 01:10:32 PM new
Fenix, I can't agree. The brain is controlled by chemicals - mainly testosterone in these cases. Without it, the person could still have those thoughts but no desire to carry them out. Unfortunately, doing something like this is seen as more barbaric than the crimes these people commit.

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on September 10, 2004 01:37:24 PM new
Wow, I did have an outburst this morning, didn't I? You think that's bad, you should hear me when Ken pisses me off. LOL!

Most of these people don't think they are doing wrong at all. They are "loving" a child. Sick, sick, sick.

desquirrel

There are subjects on which conservatives and liberals can agree. I hope this is one of them.

I was speaking to one of the massotherapists at work today. She just got done visiting a dear friend of hers who sports a scar across her neck. Her boyfriend, upon deciding that he didn't like her breaking up with him, broke into her home, slit her neck and then proceeded to beat her. He ended the assault with rape. It turns out that he is a convicted sexual preditor who was supposed to be registered. He failed to do so and the system lost track of him. She had no idea until it was too late.

I thought that pedophiles were not allowed to live near schools. Guess I was wrong because they do. It takes the neighborhood to keep careful watch and we are in the process of organizing it. If the law cannot do it, I guess parents and family have to.

To compare this to my position on prisoner abuse in Iraq is a stretch. How many children did those prisoners rape?

Cheryl

. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
 
 desquirrel
 
posted on September 10, 2004 02:17:21 PM new
I'm not comparing anything to anything. I'm just saying that if you are convicted of a crime and the penalty is X, and you do the time, any liberal in good standing would be outraged that they

put you on a list
make your crime public
monitor you constantly
interrogate you with no link to a new crime being evident

You can't do that to drug dealers, traitors, and a whole bevy of people whose crimes have a bigger impact on society than the occasional pedophile.

You have "rights" as long as the right buttons are not pushed.

 
 
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