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 stonecold613
 
posted on October 14, 2004 08:21:02 PM new
For all of you who really think Michael Moore is god, you better get your eyes and ears on this one. It is a documentary in which all of the people that were in that crap hole of a movie, Fahrenheit 9/11. The people in it tell how Michael Moore took their statements and edited them to tell a completely different story then what was really said. Once again, the hardliner left wingers are caught in a lie. This must be why so many Democrats are so anal about this election.



http://moorelies.com/news/archives/display.cfm?newsID=405
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 logansdad
 
posted on October 15, 2004 08:57:37 AM new
Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & Selling the American Empire


Roger Ebert / October 15, 2004

I have here a commentary by John Eisenhower, son of the late president, who states in the Manchester Union-Leader that for the first time in 50 years he plans to vote for the Democratic candidate for president. "The fact is that today's 'Republican' Party is one with which I am totally unfamiliar," he writes, citing its $440 billion budget deficit and unilateral foreign policy. The current administration, he says, "has confused confident leadership with hubris and arrogance."

That is essentially the same argument made in "Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear and the Selling of American Empire," the most outspoken and yet in some ways the calmest of the new documentaries opposing the Bush presidency. It charges that America is in the hands of radicals at the right-wing extreme of the Republican Party. This view has some backing among traditional conservatives; none other than Patrick Buchanan has founded a magazine, The American Conservative, to argue against Bush and the war in Iraq.

For the neo-cons, the movie says, the invasion of Iraq has been a goal since the early 1990s, and deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz, called the "intellectual force" of the group, chillingly wrote in a 2000 report that it would be hard to sell a pre-emptive strike to the American people, unless a "catastrophic event -- like a new Pearl Harbor" made it seem necessary. Immediately after 9/11, he and his associates argued for an attack on Iraq, making a connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden that has now been proven false, and claiming Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which we now know he did not.

"Hijacking Catastrophe" essentially consists of a parade of talking heads, all of them arguing that the Bush administration is more radical than most Americans realize. To be sure, the movie only tells one side. There are no defenders of the administration, and some of the speakers are well-known left-wing critics such as Noam Chomsky, Norman Mailer and Daniel Ellsberg. Others are more centrist, including Lt. Col. Karen Kwaitkowski (Ret.), an Air Force staff officer at the Pentagon, retired Army Special Forces sergeant Stan Goff, weapons inspector Scott Ritter and Nobel laureate Jody Williams.

What they do is look at the camera and talk. Although the film is only 76 minutes long, it's so intense that it seems longer, and a point comes when I half-wished the filmmakers would relent and give us some of that goofy Michael Moore stuff. In urgent sound bites of mounting alarm, they charge that the neocon insurgents envision an "American colossus" that stands "astride the world," makes its own policies and disdains cooperation with the family of nations. We went into Iraq without U.N. backing not because we had to, the movie argues, but because we wanted to; it was a good way to weaken the organization. By the same token, budget deficits are useful because they will bankrupt programs such as Social Security and Medicare that the neo-cons oppose but cannot destroy through conventional legislation.

Well, that's what the movie says, and a lot more. As your correspondent, I report it. And I will receive e-mails from readers who will protest this review and tell me a movie critic has no business getting involved in politics. But here is the movie, and here is what it says. That there are no pro-Bush documentaries this season is curious, but true. I have been asking for two months to see a film named "Michael Moore Hates America," but the filmmakers have not provided it.

The most difficult aspect of "Hijacking Catastrophe" is to accept the argument that the neocons have wanted to invade Iraq for years, as part of a plan to conquer and occupy the Middle East, and that is why 9/11 inspired their curious decision to deflect American power from bin Laden to Saddam, an uninvolved bystander. Why does this make me think of Larry punching Curly, who retaliates by punching Moe? Fear of terrorists provided their cover, and Norman Soloman of the Institute for Public Accuracy says Roosevelt's statement "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself" has been rewritten by the neocons and their Orange Alerts into "the only thing we have to fear is not enough fear."

It is an ancient debating technique to identify your opponent's ideas with similar statements by evildoers. Nevertheless, this movie opens with a quote that seems eerie in its relevance:

"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." Hermann Goering said that at the Nuremberg trials.


There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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 Twelvepole
 
posted on October 16, 2004 06:46:01 AM new
farhenhype 9/11 is right and being sold on overstock.com...



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Re-Elect President Bush... the only true choice.
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 16, 2004 09:19:02 AM new
Speaking of m. moore....looks like he's more than a little upset that his deal to show FahrenHYPE 9-11 on IN DEMAND [pay-per-view] has been turned down. He want it shown as close to the election as possible. Gee...it pains me to see him so upset.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041015/D85O5LDO0.html



 
 kiara
 
posted on October 16, 2004 09:30:06 AM new
I've heard that Michael Moore's next film will be on the pharmaceutical companies and health care system. I think it's going to be called "Sicko".


 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 16, 2004 09:34:13 AM new
Really? He's doing a documentary on the Canadian health care system? That's good.


[ edited by Linda_K on Oct 16, 2004 09:36 AM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on October 16, 2004 09:38:18 AM new
Really? He's doing a documentary on the Candiana health care system? That's good.

He's bright enough to spell Canadian correctly plus he's making lots of money .... two more reasons to hate him! LOL

Health care systems need to be revamped in several countries. The drug companies are major donors to the Republican party that's one of the reasons there is so much trouble.










[ edited by kiara on Oct 16, 2004 09:42 AM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 16, 2004 09:46:42 AM new
You're just a little slow on the draw this morning. I had already corrected my typing error...oh queen of pettiness.



two more reasons to hate him!


More false broken crystal ball reading from the failure at knowing what others feel.




 
 quatermass
 
posted on October 16, 2004 11:41:48 AM new
Michael Moore should be shot. He's nothing but garbage. A typical ungrateful American millionaire. Screw him.

 
 Reamond
 
posted on October 16, 2004 11:49:48 AM new
Well the Bushs haven't been able to deny their business connections with the bin Ladens and Saudi royals.

Anyone who vote for bin laden Bush is nuts.

Moore's film is factually correct. The only valid critism I have seen is that he got the day wrong when Bush flew all his bin laden and Saudi friends out of the country without even having the FBI question them.



 
 logansdad
 
posted on October 17, 2004 09:40:07 AM new
Here is another great movie about Bush.

http://www.bushsbrain.com/


There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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 crowfarm
 
posted on October 17, 2004 09:48:42 AM new
Well, at least Michael Moore's movie was LEGAL!

Unlike the hour long TV ad that the Sinclair corporation(Republican financed) is FORCING it's stations to broadcast.


It's already been rippped apart as nothing but lies and slander against Kerry.

It is illegal(but nothing stops the demon Republicans, legal or illegal, it's all the same to them).

Stockholders in Sinclair are pulling out.


Monday I will remove any stock I own in Sinclair.

Other sponsors are pulling their ads.

I think if it's aired it may back-fire on the slime bags.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 17, 2004 02:54:04 PM new
Another anti-michael moore movie:

michael moore Hates America

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40166
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Celsius 41.11

A film response to moores Fahrenheit 9/11 AND a deconstructing of john kerry:

http://www.dailytrojan.com/news/2004/10/06/Opinions/Recent.Documentaries.Bad.For.The.Brain-743355.shtml
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Want to learn just what a liar m. moore is? read some of these, you'll get to see all the lies he's told.


http://www.moorelies.com

http://www.Mooreexposed.com


http://www.Moorewatch.com


http://www.MichaelMooreHates America.com


http://www.fahrenheitfact.com


http://www.Centigrade911.com


http://www.BowlingforTruth.com


http://www/Fahrenheit411.com


http://www.Michael-Moore.com


http://www.SpinsanityonMoore.com


http://www.SalononMoore.com


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[ edited by Linda_K on Oct 17, 2004 03:20 PM ]
 
 skylite
 
posted on October 17, 2004 04:29:21 PM new
If Bush is so eager to send men and women to die in Iraq for a Potemkin Village democracy, why is he vigorously allowing his party to stomp on democracy at home by essentially rigging the election?

Yes, thousands of people die for democracy and liberty and freedom abroad, including Americans, while Americans are being denied their rights as citizens of a democracy in an organized campaign by the Republican National Politburo.

That's some hypocrisy. America gets a one-party state through illegal shenanigans while we allegedly export democracy. It's a tragic farce -- and the American dream is its victim
 
 stonecold613
 
posted on October 18, 2004 10:11:22 PM new
Moore's film is factually correct.

No it's not. If you pulled your head out of your ass long enough to see HYPE911, you would see all the major players from HYTE911 stating how Micheal Moore took their statements and altered them so it would appear that they were against Bush when in reality they supported him.

There is nothing credible about Michael Moore and you just can't except that.

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 parklane64
 
posted on October 19, 2004 10:12:54 AM new
Linda had a space in one of her links that made it not work.

Here it is:

http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/

Michael Moore proves that figures don't lie, but liars figure.

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Hebrews 13:8
 
 stonecold613
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:43:26 PM new
Whats good to give a cat with a cold?
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Democrats support anyone but Kerry in 2004.
 
 yeager
 
posted on October 24, 2004 03:40:01 AM new
kiara,

You are right on the next movie by Moore. His next documentary will be on the pharmaceutical companies, and how wealthy they are. I would think that he might mention the big drug store chains.

I know a pharmacists from a local hospital. He told me that he owns stock in Walgreen's. He also said they don't owe anybody a penny. They pay CA$H for their buildings and property.


Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.

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President Bush... the only true choice for more failed policies.

This long time republican is voting for John Kerry!
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on October 24, 2004 06:06:05 AM new

Insurance and pharmaceutical industries are among the most corrupt rackets in the United States. I'll be looking forward to that documentary by Moore!

 
 Reamond
 
posted on October 25, 2004 10:49:11 AM new
you would see all the major players from HYTE911 stating how Micheal Moore took their statements and altered them

Altered what they said ? They were right on camera saying it !!!!

The only thing that has been factually disputed in Moore's film is the actual day that the Bush flew their bin Laden friends out of the US.

Why anyone who wants to protect this country from terrorists would vote for Bush is beyond stupid.

Bush is in the hip pocket of the Saudi royal family, nearly all the terrorists CAME FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND WERE SUPPORTED WITH MONEY FROM SAUDI ARABIA.

And our intel reports now say that money to support the fighters in Iraq is coming from Saudi Arabia.


I am beginning to wonder why Bush ignored the pre 9-11 intel about the attack.

Bush may have in on the 9-11 attack in order to start his police state and dictatorship here in America.




 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on October 25, 2004 11:54:46 AM new
Kiara and Helen, that would be a dream come true if Moore ever did a documentary on the drug companies. The extent they will go for profits is as bad as the molesting Priests, but they get to rape everyone - legally.

 
 
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