posted on October 27, 2004 10:03:13 AM new
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WED OCT 27, 2004 12:42:01 ET XXXXX
ABCNEWS HOLDS TERROR WARNING TAPE
**Exclusive**
In the last week before the election, ABCNEWS is holding on a videotaped message from a purported al Qaeda terrorist warning of a new attack on America, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
The terrorist claims on tape the next attack will dwarf 9/11. "The streets will run with blood," and "America will mourn in silence" because they will be unable to count the number of the dead. Further claims: America has brought this on itself for electing George Bush who has made war on Islam by destroying the Taliban and making war on Al Qaeda.
ABCNEWS strongly denies holding the tape back from broadcast over political concerns during the last days of the election.
The CIA is analyzing the tape, a top federal source tells the DRUDGE REPORT.
ABCNEWS obtained the tape from a source in Waziristan, Pakistan over the weekend, sources tells DRUDGE.
"We have been working 24 hours a day trying to authenticate [the tape]," a senior ABCNEWS source said Wednesday morning.
The terrorist's face is concealed by a head dress, and speaks in an American accent, making it difficult to identify the individual, but US intelligence officials believe that man may be Adam Gadhan - aka Adam Pearlman - a southern California native who was highlighted by the FBI in May as an individual most likely to be involved in or have knowledge of the next al Qaeda attacks.
According to the FBI, Gadahn, 25, attended al-Qaida training camps and served as an al-Qaida translator.
The disturbing tape runs an hour -- the man simply identifies himself as 'Assam the American.'
posted on October 27, 2004 10:22:20 AM new
ABC handed a tape over to the CIA for authentication rather than blindly airing something that actually could sway votes of the hysteric. Are you saying that's a bad thing?
If anything isn't it irresponsible of Drudge to report the existance of the tape before it it authenticated?
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posted on October 27, 2004 11:15:27 AM new
Linda - this is news that absolutely could sway the election. You think it is responsible journalism to put out that kind of information when the tape has yet to even be authenticated?
Hell, I support Kerry who this would be a big boon for and even I think that releasing this tape before authentication is irresponsible.
Journalists are supposed to report the news but first they are supposed to verify it - isn't that what all everyone came down on Rather and CBS for not doing? You need a little consistancy here.
a) CBS does not verify and they are irresponsible and Rather should be fired.
b) Drudge does not verify and here is doing what journalists are supposed to do.
How do you reconcile those two opinions?
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posted on October 27, 2004 11:31:14 AM new
Because the tape being recieved is a fact - and that's news all by itself...whether or not it's authentic always takes a couple of days or more. So far we haven't been told any of the past tapes were fakes...they've all been authenicated as being from the terrorists.
The fact that the tape has been received is news. No reason to cover that up...just to wait to hear if it's authentic.
Like ABC could have announced they received the tape and were in the process of verifing it.
This is different from what See-BS did in that they didn't just report they had those documents and were in the process of checking them out....they told the world they HAD been verified and WERE true...when in fact, they had not.
posted on October 27, 2004 11:39:00 AM new
OK - but I assume that when ABC reports there is a tape out there from terrorists stating that there will be another lage attack resulting from Bush re-election and it results in a Kerry victory that you will not have any complaints against the media for whipping up hysteria
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posted on October 27, 2004 11:55:44 AM new
fenix - You WHAT??? You assume? And here I thought you were different from most here.
Seriously though...our Congress and news media have been sort of predicting this might happen for months now. We've even had discussions about 'would the election be cancelled/postponed etc' here. Our Congress has taken up the issues of how to best deal with this threat...how they will proceed should this event come about.
And I wish I could say that this wouldn't have any effect on how people vote...but I agree it will. Still I don't agree that it necessarily means it will be to kerry's advantage...it might just make them turn to this President because they know him and how he acted after 9-11. So I don't believe that's a 'given' at all.
I'm just going to pray it doesn't happen. That if this tape is in fact authentic then we'll be put on higher alert and possibly can prevent it from occurring....like Spain recently did.
posted on October 27, 2004 12:42:24 PM new
Linda - you really think that if people find out that there is a massive plot against the US to be attempted if Bush is re-elected, it will result in votes for Bush?
I have to disagree. There is a large enough block of voters out there that Bush has pulled to his side using scare tactics, implying that a vote for Kerry is a vote for terrorists. Now you have a tape out there proportedly from terrorists stating that a vote for Bush is a vote for homeland attack and you don't think that that this will cause these reactionary voters to switch their vote?
I think you forget just how many one issue voters there are out there.
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posted on October 27, 2004 01:09:48 PM new
Yes, fenix I stated how I see it.
There are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of patriotic democrats in this country....and I don't believe for a moment they'd want us to follow in Spain's footsteps by allowing the terrorists actions to dictate what we'll do here in America. I don't believe that for a moment.
What I see [through my own crystal ball ] is both parties coming together like we did in the aftermath of 9-11...when even democrats were out on the steps of our Congress singing 'God Bless America'.
posted on October 27, 2004 01:56:26 PM new
Update - MSNBC says CIA can't authenicate the terror tape. And they're mentioning the voice on the tape sounds like an American accent.
posted on October 27, 2004 03:29:57 PM new
Replay, do you honestly think the terrorists care who's President? The 911 attacks were reportedly 10 - 20 years in the planning. Did Reagan spark the plan? Bush Sr.? This is a holy war for them, not a political one.
posted on October 27, 2004 05:36:10 PM new
"do you honestly think the terrorists care who's President?"
Well, yeah! One candidate would sit and negotiate with the UN, while the other will actively hunt for them and kill them. They'd be stupid NOT to care.
"The 911 attacks were reportedly 10 - 20 years in the planning. Did Reagan spark the plan?"
I don't think you can blame 9/11 on any American president or policy. The terrorists wanted to make a point, and they did it amazingly well.
"This is a holy war for them, not a political one."
Absolutely true. That's why negotiations and UN dealings will have absolutely NO effect on them. Killing them WILL have an effect, regardless of their motivations.
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Looks like ABC is trying to make a decision whether or not the tape should be aired.....and I'm SURE if they think it will benefit kerry's election...they'll do so.
Still appears to be an American they're looking for...
posted on October 29, 2004 08:00:53 AM new
Yep, they're definately kerry supporters....otherwise the offenses they believe WE'VE [our country] done against them would apply even IF President Bush were to be re-elected. It's clear to me they are showing who they feel is their strongest challenge, and it's not kerry.
So maybe they think we're stupid enough to think if we elect kerry....everything our Nation has ever done that pizzed them off will be forgiven? Or more likely if we elect kerry they'll be more in control of the US and our actions.
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 28, 2004 17:02:35 ET XXXXX
TERROR TAPE WARNS OF BUSH, CHENEY CONSEQUENCE
**Exclusive**
The CIA and FBI have authenticated a new al Qaeda videotape which warns of retribution for Americans electing Bush and Cheney.
"What took place on September 11 was but the opening salvo of the global war on America and that our Lord willing, the magnitude and ferocity of what is coming your way will make you forget all about September 11," the man, whose face is covered by a headdress, warns in the video.
"After decades of American tyranny, now it's your turn to die."
The alarming tape which warns the next terror attack will dwarf 9/11.
The CIA and FBI late Wednesday authenticated the tape, federal sources tell DRUDGE.
ABCNEWS obtained the tape from a source in Pakistan.
"You are guilty, guilty, guilty. You're as guilty as Bush and Cheney. You're as guilty as Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and Powell...," the man states.
He goes on to warn of an upcoming horror: "The streets will run with blood," and "America will mourn in silence" because they will be unable to count the number of the dead.
"People of America, that was the verdict now for the sentencing: as participants and partners in the crimes of the regime, you too shall pay the price for the blood that has been spilled."
Developing...
edited to add link that gives a little info on who they suspect is the man on this tape:
posted on October 29, 2004 08:49:25 AM new
I think the terrorists will want Bush to get in. He's a proven...... they know how much they can multiply and how very easy it is to do so now. They are making a comeback in Afghanistan now also.
Since Bush is "staying the course" it's easy for them to judge his moves and he never surprises them as he makes one blunder after another. I think they find him quite easy to manipulate.
Kerry is an unknown...... why would they want that when Bush has proven to be such a sure thing?
posted on October 29, 2004 01:16:29 PM new
Well...as we speak a new binladen tape is being translated. Sounds at this point like a kerry indorsement to me.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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I don't think it's a bad thing.
