posted on October 29, 2004 07:41:07 AM new
BBC TV REVEALS NEW FLORIDA VOTE SCANDAL
REPUBLICAN "CAGING LIST"
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A secret document obtained from inside Bush campaign headquarters in Florida suggests a plan - possibly in violation of US law - to disrupt voting in the state's African-American voting districts, a BBC Newsnight investigation reveals.
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Two e-mails, prepared for the executive director of the Bush campaign in Florida and the campaign's national research director in Washington DC, contain a 15-page so-called "caging list".
It lists 1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas of Jacksonville, Florida.
An elections supervisor in Tallahassee, when shown the list, told Newsnight: "The only possible reason why they would keep such a thing is to challenge voters on election day."
Ion Sancho, a Democrat, noted that Florida law allows political party operatives inside polling stations to stop voters from obtaining a ballot.
Mass challenges
They may then only vote "provisionally" after signing an affidavit attesting to their legal voting status.
Mass challenges have never occurred in Florida. Indeed, says Mr Sancho, not one challenge has been made to a voter "in the 16 years I've been supervisor of elections."
"Quite frankly, this process can be used to slow down the voting process and cause chaos on election day; and discourage voters from voting."
Sancho calls it "intimidation." And it may be illegal.
In Washington, well-known civil rights attorney, Ralph Neas, noted that US federal law prohibits targeting challenges to voters, even if there is a basis for the challenge, if race is a factor in targeting the voters.
The list of Jacksonville voters covers an area with a majority of black residents.
posted on October 29, 2004 10:57:50 AM new
Here in NJ the democratic party machine rents buses, minivans, etc in Hudson, Essex and a few other counties and picks up drug addicts, homeless, hookers, etc and takes them to vote, sometimes twice. If I were going to challenge, it would be this.
And guess what? Most of the challenges would be against non-whites.
posted on October 29, 2004 12:37:53 PM new
40 excuses and a mule
by Ann Coulter
October 28, 2004
White liberals have been indulging their fantasies of violence against conservatives lately – physically attacking conservatives, ransacking Bush-Cheney headquarters (though not any NRA headquarters, I note). The white wife of vice presidential candidate John Edwards recently warned of riots unless Kerry is elected.
In the midst of this rash of violence by white liberals, this week Al Gore admonished a group of blacks not to engage in violence over the election. Perhaps Gore should have saved that speech for a convocation of Moveon.org members.
And Democrats wonder why they have to ask white people to hold "African-Americans for Kerry-Edwards" signs at their rallies – as happened in St. Petersburg, Fla., last Saturday. The Kerry campaign is hemorrhaging black voters like teenaged girls fleeing an R. Kelly house party. None of the Democrats' top black leaders – Jesse, Al, Bill Clinton – has been able to stem the tide.
Here's the deal on politics and race in America: Republicans don't need black voters, but they want them. Democrats don't want black voters, but they need them. Blacks have been the Democrats' most loyal voters, typically giving the party upward of 90 percent of their vote. But Democrats ignore blacks.
That's according to none other than the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who said precisely that in a speech to "Campaign for America's Future" at the Democratic National Convention this summer.
Now, with the election less than a week away, the Kerry campaign is dashing off to every black church in the country. Bill Clinton had to interrupt an important sponge bath with someone named "Bunny" to come to Kerry's rescue in Philadelphia. (Possible slogan: "Kerry – The Same as Clinton, Without the Burning Sensation."
The Democrats' inspired 11th-hour message to black voters is: Here are your crumbs, your scraps, your measly handouts. Too bad you're so childish, incompetent and dependent, huh? Now run along and cast your vote for the guy with the "D" next to his name and we'll see you in four years, 'K? Buh-bye, now.
With no fanfare, President Bush has placed black stars like Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in top positions in his administration. Kerry waited for complaints that the only black people in his campaign were setting up folding chairs at rallies before finding blacks for any prominent positions. (Another campaign slogan: "John Kerry: Pretending to Fight for Blacks Since Very Recently."
Among loony liberal ideas polling especially badly among blacks is the Democrats' gusto for gay marriage.
Gay marriage is a tricky issue for the Democrats due to the fact that – like taxes, defense and education – they are forced to lie about their position when running for office. In other words, Democrats are gay marriage supporters trapped in the bodies of candidates who oppose gay marriage. And no issue-reassignment surgery can help them.
By contrast, blacks – like Republicans and most Americans in general – not only believe gay marriage is wrong, but are willing to publicly state this belief.
Bush opposes gay marriage. Kerry is for it – and he has always been consistent on that by taking every position imaginable on gay marriage. Kerry's got more gay marriage positions than the Kama-sutra, including the "yawning dog," the "courtesan's dilemma" and the "flip-flopping weasel."
Campaigning in Missouri about a month ago, Kerry began the day saying he was opposed to Missouri's constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. By the end of the day, Kerry was claiming he supported the amendment and, indeed, that his position on gay marriage was identical to Bush's.
Later, Kerry retracted his support for the Missouri marriage amendment, telling a gay magazine that he hadn't read the amendment and, in fact, he opposed it. (More campaign slogan ideas: "John Kerry won't just take a stand on the tough issues – he'll take two or three of them!"
When Kerry's strategy of being both for gay marriage and against it failed to fool blacks, he sent Jesse Jackson out to black churches to tell the parishioners to set aside their views on gay marriage and vote for Kerry anyway. What are blacks getting out of this deal again?
Compensating for his progressive views on gay marriage, Kerry supports federal funding for partial-birth abortions. Taxpayer-supported abortion on demand should make "Emily's List" feminists happy, but it has not been a big hit with black ministers.
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was quite explicit about using abortion as a tool to reduce the minority population. She said the goal of Planned Parenthood was to "give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization." Even today, talk to any white liberal about abortion and within 60 seconds he will raise the black "overpopulation" problem.
We hear a lot about the 2 million people in America's jails and how many of them are black, but we rarely talk about the 35 to 40 million abortions since Roe v. Wade and how many of those babies were black. When your position on black abortion is identical to the Klan's, maybe it's time to reconsider.
Kerry's supporters are reaching out to blacks by demanding that black cabdrivers in New York City who support Bush be fined and suspended. When taxi driver Etzer Jerome told his sensitive Upper West Side passenger he had voted for Bush, she demanded that he pull over and let her out, yelling at him: "How can a black man vote for Bush?" and "I'm going to f--- you!" She then filed a complaint against Jerome with the Taxi and Limousine Commission alleging that Jerome had "verbally harassed her." He was fined $500 and given a three-week suspension.
On the bright side, the Democrats offer black voters loads and loads of meaningless abstractions that will have absolutely no effect on their lives. "Jobs," for example. (Just not any of the important jobs in a Kerry administration.)
Democrats' extravagant claims about creating "jobs" are as credible as their claims that they will allow the wheelchair-bound to walk. Among the jobs that are currently not available to Americans are these being performed in China under a free-trade bill voted for by John Kerry. (New campaign slogan: "John Kerry: Betraying America Since 1971."
And apparently, black voters can also look forward to a lot of patronizing demagoguery from the Democrats, such as the claim that Republicans maliciously suppressed the black vote in Florida in 2000.
Kerry claims Republicans disenfranchised 1 million black voters in Florida in 2000, but neglects to mention that after extensive and expensive hearings, the U.S. Civil Rights Commission failed to name a single one of them. Can you name just one out of that "million," Sen. Kerry? We've found more WMDs in Iraq than we've found disenfranchised blacks in Florida.
Indeed – to the contrary! – in 2000, blacks composed 11 percent of registered voters in Florida, but made up 17 percent of those who actually voted. If that's how Republicans "suppress" the black vote, blacks are better off when Republicans attack them than when Democrats pretend to be nice to them.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
posted on October 29, 2004 01:08:43 PM new
LOL....gotta give her credit...she sure knows what she's talking about. That's most likely why the dems love her so much see forces them to see the truth of their party...and their candidate.
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Before reading bear's post I was going to question the opening statement in the topic post:
A secret document obtained from inside Bush campaign headquarters in Florida suggests a....
by saying I wonder if that's one of the three republican campaign headquarters that was broken into. I haven't read if they found the guilt party yet...but their party affiliation won't be any surprise.
posted on October 29, 2004 01:37:20 PM new
Not surprised to see the neonazicons are so happy about denying people the right to vote.
Why don't we just let bush have his spoken wish to be a dictator....then there won't be a need for the Republicans to work so hard at denying the rights of voters.
I really hate to post news like this because it makes linda so happy to see people's right denied but then there is so little happiness in her solitary existence I guess I can show a little kindness to such a pathetic creature.
posted on October 29, 2004 04:28:57 PM new
"Here in NJ the democratic party machine rents buses, minivans, etc in Hudson, Essex and a few other counties and picks up drug addicts, homeless, hookers, "
posted on October 29, 2004 07:33:51 PM new
Oh, of course, classlessrockhead, and here in Minnesota the Republicans just got caught throwing out Democratic voters registration cards......but you don't mind that, do you?
posted on October 30, 2004 07:50:13 AM new
Just what is wrong with picking up voters and driving them to the polls? Democrat or Republican it just makes sense. My polling place used to be within walking distance of almost everyone in my district. There was also a busline accessing it. Because it was a school, they moved it. It's now located in an area not accessible by bus. I've offered to drive people to the polls. The Kerry headquarters here has my cell phone number just in case there is a need. It's particularly important for the elderly voter.
Edited to add: I'll drive voters for both parties. Not just the democratic party. You know, there are still some nice people left in the world who are still willing to help people out regardless of their political standing. Unfortunately, I find the democrats I know far more helpful than the republicans.
Cheryl
Protect the environment. Plant a tree and remove a Bush.
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Oct 30, 2004 07:51 AM ]
posted on October 31, 2004 04:18:12 AM new
classic
It's at the corner of W. 87th or 89th and Clark. No senior with a sense of self-preservation should walk around in that neighborhood. It makes my neighborhood seem like Disneyland. Hmmm, you seem to have a handle on my neighborhoods. Just where do you live? To set the record straight, I also think it would be nice if the Repubicans offered the same service. So, it's not strictly a party thing in my eyes.
Cheryl
Protect the environment. Plant a tree and remove a Bush.
posted on October 31, 2004 05:58:06 AM new
Cheryl, if it was simply an election between a Democrat and a Republican I might understand your idea of transporting voters to the polls regardless of their party affiliation. But in this case we are not dealing with just a Republican but George Bush, the most dangerous man in the world - who lost his focus on terrorism, misled the American people and Congress and led them into a needless preemptive war without a plan. He lost his focus on terrorism and as a result Bin Laden's organization is becoming stronger than ever while we are losing a war in Iraq...a country not even associated with terrorism or 9/11. With every succeeding year we become less safe with the Bush administration in control.
I will offer no one who plans to vote for Bush a ride.
The only thing George W. Bush can do to restore pride to the White House is to leave it.
posted on October 31, 2004 07:40:10 AM new
Oh, of course, classlessrockhead, and here in Minnesota the Republicans just got caught throwing out Democratic voters registration cards......but you don't mind that, do you?
posted on October 31, 2004 09:39:25 AM newThe Kerry headquarters here has my cell phone number just in case there is a need.
Oh yeah, that's reeeeeally non-partisan. Thanks for the idea, but instead of calling GOP HQ I think I'll just dial up all the old people homes in the area and make sure they have transpo available.....
And Helen has a good point, I think we have lost our focus on the war on terrorism.
posted on October 31, 2004 12:08:07 PM new
Oh, of course, classlessrockhead, and here in Minnesota the Republicans just got caught throwing out Democratic voters registration cards......but you don't mind that, do you?
Crowfarm--actually no I dont-I rather enjoy it,especially when it gets your panties in a bind.
posted on October 31, 2004 12:17:40 PM new
"It's at the corner of W. 87th or 89th and Clark. No senior with a sense of self-preservation should walk around in that neighborhood. It makes my neighborhood seem like Disneyland. Hmmm, you seem to have a handle on my neighborhoods. Just where do you live"
You want to know where I live? Well I live about 80 miles north of New York City in beautiful Dutchess Co.This is a "bedroom" community for Westchester Co and New York City.I live in a 4 bedroom,3 bath house with 2 acres of land.I have an inground swimming pool with a diving board and a waterslide.
I also have big tall pine trees on both sides of my house so I can not see my neighbors house.We bought this house in 1993 for $172,000 and its now worth $362,00O.
Im not making this up or bragging-but you asked.
posted on October 31, 2004 12:39:49 PM newhere in Minnesota the Republicans just got caught throwing out Democratic voters registration cards
Now that cowfarm has proven to be a wealth of mis-information, it was the dems not giving anyone that wasn't voting for Kerry a registration card. I was the repubs in MN registering anyone who wanted to be signed up. You are just bitter that all of the polls in MN except for the biased Star Tribune shows Bush with a lead over Kerry. Polls which include the democratic ABC news, Democratic WCCO news, Democratic KARE news and so on. Minnesota has gone republican except for President for many years now, including govenor and the house. And the senate is moving closer than ever before. Why? Because more and more the democrats lies are proven beyond any amounts of doubt.
