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 neglus
 
posted on September 10, 2005 04:39:20 AM new
I don't get it. I thought that the "official" place to send donations to benefit the hurricane victims was the American Red Cross with many side (and worthy) funds set up to rescue pets etc...so what's up with this fund? It's got "front page" coverage on the AOL site. It sounds like the money will go directly to the governors of the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama... do we trust the Governors who, (at least in Louisiana) may share part of the blame for mis-management of rescue efforts, to make efficient use of this money?
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 cblev65252
 
posted on September 10, 2005 07:05:27 AM new
Neglus

What makes you think the state authorities are going to steal the money? Some of you really have a bug up your butt when it comes to giving money out to the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Cheryl
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on September 10, 2005 07:42:03 AM new
neglus - Imo, it's because this is expected to cost us anywhere between $200 Billion dollars and $250B. And estimates are usually way off and end up costing much more than first is projected.


It is my hope that the governor and mayor of LA will be recalled before they are given the chance to be in charge of any funding. And better leadership put in place to deal with all that the future holds.

Their governor and mayor have already proven their incompetence in handling this emergency.



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And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 mingotree
 
posted on September 10, 2005 08:30:50 AM new
But, of course, we saw no bungling with the BILLIONS sent to Iraq!!


NOT ONE neocon in here has addressed my many posts asking why they hate giving money to AMERICANS and are so concerned about how it's spent and then IGNORE the corruption , mis-management, and huge waste of taxpayer money in Iraq.


Ya, righties, ignore it and then it won't really be happening....your modus operandi



 
 replaymedia
 
posted on September 10, 2005 12:33:22 PM new
Will you get it into your head once and for all that Louisiana is NOT Iraq!!!

One us a foreign war. The other is a local disaster. There are bound to be some problems when dealing with problems in a foreign war. Local home disasters like the NO flooding SHOULD be much more capably handled.

But then again, the fact is that the Mayor and Governor handled this emergency with all the honesty and finesse of one of those corrupt African dictators. So maybe your continually confusion LA with Iraq isn't completely off-base.


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 dblfugger9
 
posted on September 10, 2005 02:38:20 PM new
What makes you think the state authorities are going to steal the money?

I will have to admit I am a little skeptical, myself. Cheryl, there was a good AP article about the misappropriation of some of the 9/11 funds. It went on to say how companies in Oregon and the Virgin Islands received loans and funding out of one of the 9/11 trust funds. It was in yesterdays paper over here, so I no longer have it but I will try to find the link.

 
 neglus
 
posted on September 10, 2005 02:49:13 PM new
I have NO problem giving money to hurricane victims! I do not think that the governors will steal the money. I just THOUGHT that the "right" (as in the most effective) place to donate was the Red Cross. It seems to me that it is better to put ONE place in charge of the funds instead of a bazillion little places. I just don't see the point of having ANOTHER fund with all the attendant administrative costs when there already is an American Red Cross in place to do the same thing. PS Cheryl and Mingo..I do not have a bug up my butt... my politics are about as liberal as they come but even I can see that the governor of Louisiana should share some of the responsibility of the mis-management of the crisis with FEMA. Have you become so polarized on this board that one can't even RAISE a question about a new fund without being classified as a neocon?

I am only interested in getting the money to the victims as expediently and effectively as possible. As in the times of 9-11, this is not a time for politics, it is a time for action. Why don't the ex-presidents (both parties) get behind the REd Cross instead of having the vanity to have to have a fund named after them?



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 cherishedclutter
 
posted on September 10, 2005 03:50:08 PM new
I was under the impression that the Bush-Clinton fund was for more long-term needs and the Red Cross was for more immediate needs. It's probably not that simple. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable giving to the Bush-Clinton fund until or unless I know more about the specifics of what they plan to do with the money.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on September 10, 2005 04:11:19 PM new


The Clinton Bush fund is a long term fund to help the victims rebuild their homes and lives. The Red Cross is focused on more immediate needs.

From news release...

Former Presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton will announce today that they have established a special fund to raise money for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. This fund will serve to fill in the gaps in unmet needs that arise in the weeks and months ahead with this recovery effort.

“I, like so many other Americans, have been deeply and profoundly affected by the suffering of the victims of hurricane Katrina,” President Clinton said.” “This is a disaster of enormous proportions and the recovery is going to be a long hard fight. There are thousands and thousands of people who are in really bad shape and who are going to need a lot of help to get back on their feet and rebuild their lives. So many people in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama have lost everything, and former President Bush and I are determined to raise money to help these good people, not only for the immediate emergency, but also to assist with their future rebuilding needs. I am confident that the generosity and good will of the American people will make this fund a great success, allowing it to help the people recover and start anew.”

The Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund is a 501(c)(3) charitable fund established in coordination with the governors of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. The fund will serve as an umbrella for the three special funds established by Governors Blanco, Barbour, and Riley to assist their states and will largely focus on collecting donations to assist in the long-term recovery plan for the affected states.

“The immediate concern is obviously to ensure that the hurricane survivors are safe, fed, and clothed,” said President Bush. “Thanks to the generosity of the American people, the Red Cross, Salvation Army, and so many other nonprofit organizations, progress is being made on the ground to help the survivors. The next step is to help the victims rebuild their homes and lives and it’s our hope that this fund will accomplish just that”

The former presidents will visit Houston on Monday to meet with victims of Hurricane Katrina and survey the temporary living conditions in Houston. Prior to their tour, they will announce the first round of sponsors who have pledged donations to the hurricane victims.



As of the announcement of the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund, over 35 sponsors had pledged donations to the Fund. They include:

• Alltel
• The American Cancer Society
• The American Diabetes Association
• The American Heart Association
• Association for a Better New York
• Booz Allen Hamilton
• Rolando Bunster
• George H.W. and Barbara Bush
• George Bush Presidential Library and Museum
• Jimmy Carter Library & Museum
• City Year
• Dillards, Inc.
• Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library and Museum
• Entergy
• Freddie Mac
• GSD&M Advertising
• Lyndon Baines Johnson Library and Museum
• Drew Lewis • Microsoft
• Nike
• Nixon Presidential Matierials
• Omnicom Group
• The PGA
• Ronald Reagan Presidential Library
• Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum
• Roy Ryu
• Saban Entertainment
• Harry S. Truman Presidential Museum and Library
• The Trump Group
• The University of Arkansas
• Wal-Mart
• The Walton Family Foundation
• The Wasserman Foundation
• Waste Management
• The William J. Clinton Foundation
• The William J. Clinton Presidential Center

Of this group, Wal-Mart and the Walton Family Foundation have pledged an extremely generous contribution of over a combined $20 million.


 
 mingotree
 
posted on September 10, 2005 04:50:18 PM new
Why Helen, don't you know now some neocon will post in here that that's just a PUBLICITY STUNT like this one did :



"""replaymedia
posted on September 5, 2005 01:03:53 PM
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"Where's O'Riley, Hannity, Rush ??"

Dunno about O'Riley, but Hannity and Rush were on the air this afternoon (Yes, on Labor Day) pushing listeners to support the rescue efforts and asking for donations. I'm sure between the two of them, they've raised millions for the relief effort.

"Ed Schultz, host of America's fastest growing radio talk show"

Never heard of him.

"and introduce you to the Hurricane Katrina Family that will share his home for the near feature."

Sounds like a publicity stunt to me."""




As to Walmart contributing $20 million....isn't that a whole whopping 10 minutes worth of profits....that company COULD easily give 20 Billion without putting them on bread and water.
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 Helenjw
 
posted on September 10, 2005 05:13:11 PM new
Right! 20 million is just a drop in the bucket for Walmart.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on September 10, 2005 07:24:29 PM new
LOL....even critics of WalMart are saying what a GREAT job they're doing at helping out the victims in the flood areas. Course, we wouldn't expect our WalMart critics to see it the same way....nope, they're just WAY to negative to be thankful for all WM HAS done.
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Private companies are stepping in to fill the gap left by the government.


Wal-Mart made one of the largest monetary donations to victims of Hurricane Katrina.


But the company's ability to move products quickly into the affected region helped thousands of people before the government got there.     



Ronny Hayes is back at the Wal-Mart home office in Bentonville now. He spent one week in the New Orleans area trying to reopen stores and help communities hit Hurricane Katrina.


So far Wal-Mart has donated more than one hundred truckloads of water and merchandise to relief organizations.
  


"I've never been more proud of our company, than I am right now," Hayes says.
    
As the world's largest retailer, Wal-Mart used its ability to move product to get goods right into devastated areas. Hayes says Wal-Mart also reached out to help those who are helping others.
  
"We've opened up one of our stores in Marrero area to cater to the needs of the police department and the National Guard," Hayes says. "In exchange they offer protection for our store."
    


Wal-Mart's quick response won praise from government officials when others couldn't cut through the red tape.



The company donated $15 million to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund and the Walton family kicked in another eight million dollars.
 
"The thing about our company is we're not a complacent group. Let's do it now," Hayes says, and getting it done right away saved lives.


Hayes says during his visit he learned about an employee named Trent. Ironically, as a loss prevention associate it is Trent's job to stop stealing. But after the Hurricane Katrina, Trent brought police into his Wal-Mart store to get essentials for a group of elderly people who were abandoned in their nursing home.
  
"He kept track of everything coming out of the store and as a result the mayor of Kenner says he save many lives in that senior citizens home," Hayes says.
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Plus they have donated $1 Million to the group that is rescuing the animals....plus....plus....plus





"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on September 10, 2005 07:36:39 PM new
neglus - Clinton was asked a question like yours today and his answer was that it's just too massive for one organization to handle.



"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on September 10, 2005 07:53:39 PM new
Problem solved...no dilemma what-so-ever!

I'm a hurricane victim, right? Right.

So...just send me your money and donations.. size 12 is good in clothing and 8 shoe size
Shirts need to be a tad larger, maybe a 14.

Or what the heck just send me your money..I'll shop...LOL Maggie

 
 mingotree
 
posted on September 10, 2005 08:17:27 PM new
I could do that, Maggie! And the clothes would be better than the crap LindaKKK gets at her favorite store

 
 mingotree
 
posted on September 10, 2005 08:49:21 PM new
Isn't it funny how seriously KindaKKK defends WallyWorld?
Can't ya just see her in tights and a cape ..Super Wally! Defender of the company of brotherly love...Walmart!

Ha! Push her button...see her roar

 
 
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