posted on October 11, 2006 03:29:17 PM new
My fiance and I decided to start watching the Academy Awards Best Pictures recently.
Well, working our way backwards, we received from Netflix, Brokeback Mountain, Best Picture of 2005. Last night we decided to watch it, and to be quite honest, neither Cindy or I can figure out all the hoopla behind the winning nomination. We found it so cheesy and boring that we quit watching it half way through. Perhaps we both missed something that comes later in the film, but if a movie doesn't cut it within the first hour, I am the type of person who is done. It's like giving up on a book that seems to go nowhere after the first two chapters.
Now, I have to admit, I am not entirely familiar with gay culture. We have gay friends who have a similar business as ours. We've been invited to a few of their "sausage" parties, where Cindy and I are the only straight couple. I don't feel uncomfortable around gay men, with the exception of if they are macking on each other, etc. which everyone at their parties are mature enough. Hell, straight couples macking on each other in public can be uncomfortable to witness.
A little personal background... I'm a progressive liberal with two Bachelors Degrees (Sociology and Race & Minority Relations). I believe every American should have equal rights, including marriage. Basically, I don't have a problem with a persons lifestyle if it doesn't affect me negatively. What you do on your own time is your business.
Back to the movie... We both found the two cowboys characters to be boring, and the movie didn't give much in the way of character development, unless you count two young shirtless men wrestling on a mountainside exciting. I would have found two shirtless women more interesting, but that is just me. I've thought a little more highly of Heath Ledger, expecting a bit more of character personality. Anyways, after an hour and 15 minutes, we gave up on it. We both felt it was an immature movie aimed towards gay men, or perhaps to recruit new ranks into the gay community (who knows what the motive was). More or less, we both cracked plenty of jokes through out the movie, especially when Randy Quaid said the line, "stemming the rose" in a reference to their gay sex on the mountain. Never heard that one before.
On a more interesting note, we did notice that the story involved two GAY COWBOYS... one from Texas and the other from Wyoming. Perhaps a little insight into the Bush/Cheney relationship. In fact, Ledger's character and mannerisms reminded me of Cheney. lol.
Next up... Gladiator from 2000. We've already seen the 2001-2004 Best Pictures. Any thoughts from others who saw Brokeback Mountain or input for past Best Picture Winners?
posted on October 11, 2006 06:51:15 PM new
I haven't seen "Brokeback", but I did see "Gladiator". I liked it, overall, but it is quite graphic. There were a few bits that upset me, but those were the times and I feel it was probably true to the period.
I can't wait to see the new Robin Williams movie. I prefer comedies.
posted on October 11, 2006 09:51:54 PM new
I agree on Brokeback. It was boring and I didn't finish it either, although the wife seemed to like it just fine. But being a straight "cowboy" myself, I'm wondering if you suffered from the cognitive dissonance that some of my friends felt. for them, gay and cowboy are two words that just don't go together....although in fact they really do. The IGRA, the International Gay Rodeo Cowboy's Association, has over 4000 members in the southwestern states alone.
Gladiator is a good one. Right up there in my book with that Mel Gibson movie about the Scottish guy whose name escapes me right now...Braveheart, that's it. Although I liked Braveheart better, Gladiator is good too and historically pretty well on the mark.
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posted on October 12, 2006 03:37:05 PM newSee this post.
Why?
Of course Mz. Coulter would like to off Foley's follies to the fact that he's really a Dem in disguise. Only, he's not. He's a Republican, died in the wool, and so are all the folks who ignored his pandering to the pretty page boys. Like it or not pal, gay does not equal dem, not in the current case in any event. Go chant some more.
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posted on October 12, 2006 05:59:26 PM new
Brokeback is one of the better movies which reveals what it is like to be 'gay'.
Yes,they are different than a heterosexual couple,it seems to be more sexual,(probably the wrong word,I should say highly charged sexually),notice how the wife of one of them cried when she found out that they are passionately kissing each other on the lips outside the house.
But love is love,they loved each other and a few 'fucks' in the mountain every year is not enough ,no different than a heterosexual couple in love.
I feel sorry for the spouses.
posted on October 12, 2006 07:53:29 PM new
William Wallace was executed before Isabella was married to Edward II, and since she married him when she was 12, it's pure fiction that they ever met. Still, Sophie Marceau is a visual feast. Damn the historical accuracy.
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posted on October 13, 2006 06:15:02 AM new
Women need to find out for themselves there are more gay/bisexual men out there than they know or care to know.
Better to find out his sexual preference SOONER THAN LATER.
posted on October 13, 2006 12:16:16 PM new
I saw "Brokeback" when it came out on video(no surprise I bet). I agree with Shagmidmod. I did not understand what the hype was all about. It was a good movie, but personally I liked "Crash" a lot more.
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posted on October 13, 2006 12:18:21 PM newWomen need to find out for themselves there are more gay/bisexual men out there than they know or care to know. Better to find out his sexual preference SOONER THAN LATER.
For your information, there are also women out there that have an idea they are lesbians, but still enter into a marriage for the same reasons men with gay tendencies enter into a marriage. Oprah devoted an entire show to this topic recently.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on October 13, 2006 12:49:29 PM new
"I saw "Brokeback" when it came out on video(no surprise I bet). I agree with Shagmidmod. I did not understand what the hype was all about."
You're right,it was no surprise there,but whatever floats your boat.But I am surprised you dont know what all they hype was about-because it was about two gay cowboys,and thats the ONLY reason.If these two cow folks had been straight,and bad or boring as the movie was, as Rusty states,this movie would have gotten no attention at all.
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posted on October 13, 2006 12:56:27 PM new
I saw Million Dollar Baby several months ago, Cindy didn't see it and she wouldn't be able to deal with it very well at all. Cindy was hospitalized last year for almost two weeks because she was diagnosed with lymphoma (two of the tumors combined were about 20 pounds, one was up against her kidney and the second was wrapping around her aorta) last year and went through hell with chemotherapy, and physical therapy (she dislocated her knee while going through chemo as well).
The hospital scenes in MDB were enough for me, and I know she was in tears watching Tony Soprano in the hospital during the 6th season of the Soprano's. She's in remission now, but I know it would upset her to no end.
The movie I am least looking forward to is Titanic. I swore I would never see it because of the hype.
posted on October 13, 2006 02:48:41 PM new
I miss Oprah show on lesbians,I wonder if husbands are just as upset as wives when they find out their spouses are lesbians or 'closet lesbians'.
Question-when a man comes home from work and find his wife in bed with another woman?How does he react?/
posted on October 13, 2006 04:44:36 PM new
see,Classics,this is what I expect a man to say or do,men dont seem as threatened by their women taking on a lesbian lover,they figure there is just more for them.
But when a woman sees her man in bed with another man,her first reaction is not to jump in and have fun.SHE FEELS SHE HAS BEEN DISPLACED!
posted on October 13, 2006 09:55:43 PM new
I just got back from a fascinating reunion of 8 of my good friends from the teen years who all grew up in my Dad's Baptist church in Phoenix. Some of us hadn't seen each other in 45 years. Two of the best (kindest, smartest) members of this group are gay men, and two others in the group (husband and wife, Bible thumpers) proclaimed that gay is a "lifestyle choice." We had some interesting words over that.
posted on October 15, 2006 06:14:11 AM new
Gay Baptists. Cognitive dissonance fer sure....
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posted on October 15, 2006 06:45:50 AM new
Gay men are attracted to other gay men,they cant help themselves.
Just like you are attracted to the opposite sex,would you be happy if you have to marry a member of your own sex so you can be socially acceptable,get your promotion in the office ,etc etc?
One coworker of mine years ago,he is BI and married with children said that a woman's body is meant for reproduction,after she reaches 27 of age,her body is no longer attractive.
He is entitled to his opinion,physically a man's body holds up better than a woman's body.
posted on October 15, 2006 07:55:24 AM newBut I am surprised you dont know what all they hype was about-because it was about two gay cowboys,and thats the ONLY reason.
Another stupid comment from pinnochio. I knew what the movie was about when it was released. What you don't seem to understand is that my life does not revolve around being gay. I saw the movie when I had the time and as I stated I don't believe the movie lived up to all the hype. However, it was ground breaking in that a gay themed movie hit the mainstream theaters.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on October 15, 2006 07:57:26 AM newI miss Oprah show on lesbians,I wonder if husbands are just as upset as wives when they find out their spouses are lesbians or 'closet lesbians'.
Based on the show, it did appear the husbands had the same type of reaction when their wives told them they were lesbian.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on October 15, 2006 08:00:09 AM newsee,Classics,this is what I expect a man to say or do,men don't seem as threatened by their women taking on a lesbian lover,they figure there is just more for them.
Of course that is true. Straight men do not feel threatened by gays (if they are lesbian). They would jump at the chance to be in bed with two women at the same time. They feel threatened if their wife asked for a threesome with the husband and another man because some it would make the husband gay.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on October 15, 2006 03:51:28 PM new
Nothing demoralises a woman more than to find out her husband prefers a man over her.
if it is a woman,she can at least find a way to win him back,but a man??how??
By doing what?use Oxyclean in the wash?
Find a more creative way to iron his shirts?
Bake a better meatloaf??
posted on October 15, 2006 05:57:12 PM new
As for one who has been put in that position.... yeah, it's a shock...but not the end of the world. He and I had two great kids. I was shocked, and disgusted, at the time. But, now, looking back, I can see the signs. There's no way that could have worked out. We get along pretty good now, 30 years later. Mark gets along with him.
