stonecold613
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posted on April 12, 2009 07:32:08 PM new
This was posted in a Boston newspaper website.
Boston observation about ND flooding...
Friday at 5:22pm
What we are not seeing during the flood.
Just a personal observation...as I watched the news coverage of the massive flooding in the Midwest with the levee's about to break in Fargo,North Dakota and Morehead Minnesota, what amazed me is not what we saw, but what we didn't see...
1. We don't see looting.
2. We don't see street violence.
3. We don't see people sitting on their rooftops waiting for the government to come and save them.
4. We don't see people waiting on the government to do anything.
5. We don't see Hollywood organizing benefits to raise money for people to rebuild.
6. We don't see people blaming President Obama.
7. We don't see people ignoring evacuation orders.
8. We don't see people blaming a government conspiracy to blow up the levees as the reason some have not held.
9. We don't see the US Senators or the Governor of Minnesota and North Dakota crying on TV.
10. We don't see the Mayors of any of these cities complaining about the lack of state or federal response.
11. We don't see or hear reports of the police going around confiscating personal firearms so only the criminal will be armed.
12. We don't see gangs of people going around and randomly shooting at the rescue workers.
13. You don't see some leaders in this country blaming the bad behavior of the Minnesota and North Dakota flood victims on "society".
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on April 13, 2009 04:51:54 AM new
14. We don't see a population reliant on public transportation, but instead a population with (based on the national average) more vehicles than licensed drivers.
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Helenjw
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posted on April 13, 2009 06:23:33 AM new
Right, Cash...different demographics. The category 4 hurricane exposed poverty in New Orleans that shocked the world!
And, when you consider the casualties involved, structural destruction and sudden onslaught of the New Orleans category 4 hurricane there is relatively little comparison that can be made with that of a Midwest river flood.
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profe51
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posted on April 13, 2009 06:35:08 AM new
I doubt this was published in a Boston paper website, unless it was used as an example of silly forwarded emails. Got a link stoney? It's a version of an old forward that's been going around since 05 or so.
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desquirrel
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posted on April 13, 2009 05:03:20 PM new
Plus, you get a few billion, you put it into levees instead of stealing it and then asking for a few bil more when you bump off a few people and the rest re-elect you.
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coach81938
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posted on April 13, 2009 06:20:06 PM new
Check out Snopes. This racist drivel has been going around since Oct. 2005, just as Profe said.
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stonecold613
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posted on April 13, 2009 08:11:16 PM new
Ok droans. Show me one statement that isn't true.
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profe51
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posted on April 13, 2009 09:40:40 PM new
Your post compares apples and oranges stoner. A winter flood situation that has happened numerous times in the past versus one of the largest hurricanes ever to hit the North American continent. A middle class and better population of highly mobile white people vs. a largely UNmotorized low income minority population...It's an old forwarded email. Admit it, some nutball sent it to you, probably mixed in with a bunch of other forwards about how Obama is going to take away your gun rights, is a socialist, is a Muslim yadda yadda yadda. Whether or not any of the assertions is true or not is beside the point. You're just trolling. Where's your link to the "Boston newspaper"? Is that supposed to lend it some semblance of credibility? Do YOU fall for that junk when people send it to you? Is that all it takes for you to believe this drivel and send it on to all 6 people in your address book? "A Boston newspaper"....oooh, MUST be real!!
I've asked you this before I think, but please explain, WTF is a "droan"? 
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on April 14, 2009 04:14:07 AM new
Profe, according to the urban dictionary, it's:
droan
the illest type of weed ever.
example: damn cutts, i hella need to smoke me some droan n #*!@, ya feel?
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Helenjw
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posted on April 14, 2009 05:27:13 AM new
"damn cutts, i hella need to smoke me some droan n #*!@, ya feel?"
Droners mix beer and weed together. Doncha know thats what droners do?
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profe51
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posted on April 14, 2009 05:41:27 AM new
So...we're all some kind of herb? How pleasant!
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Helenjw
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posted on April 14, 2009 08:48:47 AM new
Yes, we are herbs, of the type that cures disease.
no need to call your doctor
just to see what pill to take
when you know there's no prescription
gonna wipe this one away.
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on April 14, 2009 08:55:15 AM new
Profe, I don't think it's *some* kind of herb, it's one kind in particular.
Holy smokes Helen, no need to bring Social Disease into this!
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Helenjw
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posted on April 14, 2009 09:12:50 AM new
Just seeing if you were paying attention.
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cblev65252
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posted on April 14, 2009 03:30:29 PM new
How can you compare what happened in Minnesota to the hurricane in New Orleans? There's no comparison.
Could that article be any more bigoted. It's hidden fairly well, but it's there.
Cheryl
http://www.youravon.com/cherylblevins
Now you can buy Avon from me from anywhere in the world.
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stonecold613
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posted on April 14, 2009 04:48:16 PM new
Just what I thought. You can't disprove any of it because it is all true.
Then to say it's apples & oranges is BS. There was a warning for Katrina and most there sat on their collective behinds and still are. There was roughly the same advanced warning for the floods and the people of North Dakota and Minnesota took action.
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Helenjw
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posted on April 14, 2009 05:32:27 PM new
What is your explanation, Stonecold?
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Helenjw
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posted on April 14, 2009 07:04:04 PM new
Stonecold, your topic is a comparison between the management and behavior of people during and after the category 4 hurricane that hit New Orleans and the management and behavior of people after mid-west river floods.
If you won't accept our opinion that the two events are not comparable then you must have an opinion as to why you believe people reacted so differently to what you perceive as similar disasters.
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profe51
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posted on April 15, 2009 06:30:35 AM new
Yeah, please share your reason for these disparate responses to disaster. Whatever could make two communities respond so differently?
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profe51
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posted on April 15, 2009 06:32:05 AM new
And you still haven't said what a 'droan' is
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on April 15, 2009 08:05:31 AM new
It's so easy, but cowardly, to imply and insinuate. Why don't you come out and say clearly and openly what your thesis is?
Unless you say otherwise, I'll have to assume that your thesis is that it's all because of the gumbo and crawfish.
[ edited by cashinyourcloset on Apr 15, 2009 08:07 AM ]
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desquirrel
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posted on April 15, 2009 08:52:09 AM new
You do not need a "basis" to state a fact. It merely is. Now you can debate forever the reason behind a fact, but not the fact itself.
If you say the reason the police force abandoned the city was "different cultures", "disparate economic conditions", on and on, it still does not change the fact they ran. Whether a politician is white, black, or any other shade in the rainbow does not change endemic graft and theft.
The basic flaw in liberal thinking is "all people are the same" which is simply not true. Cultural differences abound. Jewish and Asian cultures for centuries have stressed education from cradle to crave and you have them making up large segments of the professional classes.
The people in Fargo had more to protect, so you run and start filling sand bags, rather than sit around waiting to be saved. Emergency personnel stay and help their neighbors instead of heading for high ground.
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cblev65252
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posted on April 15, 2009 07:57:52 PM new
No amount of sandbags would have helped new Orleans after the levy broke. Still not the same as a river flooding.
Cheryl
http://www.youravon.com/cherylblevins
Now you can buy Avon from me from anywhere in the world.
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Helenjw
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posted on April 16, 2009 05:43:53 AM new
Cheryl, I suppose that fact interferes with a bigot's thought process. They would prefer to use their "facts", regardless of the circumstances, to construct a case of ill disguised innuendo.
The author of Stonecold's original post doesn't even name his target which of course is the poor black population of New Orleans.
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coach81938
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posted on April 16, 2009 06:43:44 AM new
Gov. Pawlenty has requested and is/will be receiving Federal aid for cleanup, unemployment, housing, etc, according to the Minnesota National Guard News.
The usual suspects here are slyly (they think) implying that the minority makeup of New Orleans is apparently the reason for the terrible effects of Katrina on New Orleans. New Orleans has a large indigent population and that is the area hardest hit by Katrina. How do you evacuate when you have no car and little or no money? The city was deficient in their response as was the state and Federal governments. The Red River flood was many days in the making and was much more predictable as far as how serious it would be. Hurricanes are notoriously unpredictable and harder to prepare for.
Those trying to defend the OP know they are bigots, no matter how much they try to hide behind their "facts."
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deichen
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posted on April 16, 2009 07:03:29 AM new
I have a rather direct question for Stone and Squirrel...
Do you consider yourself a bigot?
Dictionary.com:
–noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Or a racist?
Dictionary.com:
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
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profe51
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posted on April 16, 2009 08:38:31 AM new
I betcha some of their best friends are minorities.
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desquirrel
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posted on April 16, 2009 08:45:09 AM new
"Do you consider yourself a bigot?"
No, but I'm not an idiot either.
And to respond to Helen's somewhat imbecilic "thought process", you do not sandbag AFTER the levee fails.
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Helenjw
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posted on April 16, 2009 10:37:43 AM new
Sandbags???
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Helenjw
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posted on April 16, 2009 11:02:50 AM new
Because I consider Squirrel's comments irrational, I have made a decision not to respond unless he mentions my name. My comment about the "thought process" of a bigot was not in response to his message. Neither was my comment about the timely use of "sandbags"...a concept that I haven't mentioned or referred to.
I read Cheryl's comment as yet another effort to make it clear that the two disasters are not comparable in any way.
[ edited by Helenjw on Apr 17, 2009 07:57 AM ]
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