maddienicks
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posted on January 17, 2001 08:02:30 AM new
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/britain010116_adoption.html
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1119000/1119741.stm
What the hell is wrong with people?
I gotta go do some stuff, so this is hit and run, but I'm just wondering what ya'll think of this mess.
Kris
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njrazd
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posted on January 17, 2001 08:36:48 AM new
The San Diego news this morning said they are looking for the "broker". She's apparently got a shady past involving internet adoptions and other businesses.
This whole thing makes me ill. Selling babies to the highest bidder is morally and ethically wrong.
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mauimoods
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posted on January 17, 2001 08:39:09 AM new
It makes me sick...thats my thoughts. Those babies being shuffled all over the place. But I think the most of my disgust is at the mother. No words describe her. Lets just say shes in the same category as Susan Smith.
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zeldas
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posted on January 17, 2001 10:54:00 AM new
I heard this on the radio today. I thought this was illegal, though they say they are just an agency for the ads.
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codasaurus
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posted on January 17, 2001 11:10:09 AM new
Words fail me for one of the few times in my life.
 The birth mother.
The "missing" biological father.
The baby broker.
The first adopting couple.
The second adopting couple.
The mish mash of adoption laws across various States.
All of the people who will jump into this situation for their own selfish reasons.
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RainyBear
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posted on January 17, 2001 11:22:46 AM new
Geez... how awful.
I hope the woman who gave birth to them and the "broker" both end up in jail. Is coldhearted greed a crime? And it wasn't even for that much money.
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Julesy
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posted on January 17, 2001 11:47:38 AM new
Sick, sick, sick...
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december3
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posted on January 17, 2001 12:16:58 PM new
I can't imagine selling your own flesh and blood. This was a sale, the word adoption should not even be used in the artical.
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gravid
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posted on January 17, 2001 02:10:19 PM new
One side of me is repelled and the other says maybe the highest bidder has more incentive to take very good care off them. However if you are going to make it a straight sale you have to honor the first buyer not snatch them away because you had a higher bidder. If we did that on an auction think how they would yell. Even crooked politicians are supposed to STAY bought.
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fountainhouse
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posted on January 17, 2001 03:19:21 PM new
The father's not unknown -- he got in on the payola when the English couple arrived at the courthouse to get a copy of the twins' birth certificates. Demanded his share.
Of course he, the mother and the broker have since made themselves scarce.
Pathetic.
(BTW, I wasn't impressed with either pair of those adoptive parents when I caught their interviews on this AM's news. Neither is particularly articulate.)
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Shadowcat
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posted on January 17, 2001 03:26:58 PM new
Let's see...there's greed, manipulation, and selfishness. And not just on the biological mother's and the broker's parts.
Beyond lip service by the couple in the UK, are any of those adults concerned about the BABIES?
Jeezus H. Keerist! What is wrong with those people? NONE of them deserve those children!
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debbielennon
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posted on January 17, 2001 03:38:32 PM new
Demented.
I think all 3 sets of parents should be banned from any further contact with these children (the birth parents & both sets of parents that "purchased" them).
Children are not to be bought and sold like a common domestic animal.
How can people get involved in a situation like this and not realize what they are getting into?
"Adoption brokers" like this are the lowest of the bottomfeeders, IMO.
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kitsch1
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posted on January 17, 2001 04:34:57 PM new
There are strict adoption policies with most organizations that protect the child. These child brokers most likely don't follow those strict guidlines. This broker would probably "sell" a half dozen 12 year old girls to Woody Allen.
The whole thing repulses me and I want to know if any kind of charges are being made against these people.
[ edited by kitsch1 on Jan 17, 2001 04:36 PM ]
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maddienicks
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posted on January 17, 2001 05:02:31 PM new
I didn't see the interview with the first set of "parents". I think the whole damn lot of them ought to have their butts kicked from here to China. What really bothers me about the second set of "parents" is that even after they knew that they were basically stealing these children from the first "buyers", they still ran, with the birth mother and her toddler in tow, across the US. In addition, they are now in the UK, with the babies...and they got the babies in by complete deception, acting as tho the babies were gonna be just there on "holiday".
The birth mother should be sterilized. I'm a liberal and I think she should be sterilized.
Saddest part of all this to me is that since these are children involved, no significant punishment will be meted out. That's they way it goes in this country, it seems. A slap on the wrist - maybe a year or two in jail. Big deal. They sold BABIES - not illegal livestock.
gravid made the point about taking the children from the first "buyers" and giving them to a higher bidder....what I wonder about is this: Those girls had been with the first family for FOUR MONTHS. How did the second couple come to learn of them, and buy them, all this time later? The ad was obviously still on the web site. I hope they get HER, too.
Ugh.
Kris
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mrssantaclaus
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posted on January 17, 2001 10:15:54 PM new
Public flogging comes to mind ...
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fountainhouse
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posted on January 18, 2001 02:10:26 PM new
Well, today brings us news that the birth mother wants her twins back. Seems she's angry that the English adoptive parents have been exploiting the children in the news media. (Apparently it *is* okay to sell them on the internet, though.)
And a third set of prospective adoptive parents has surfaced. Didn't hear whether they actually forked over any cash.
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maddienicks
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posted on January 18, 2001 06:11:29 PM new
I had to work tonight, and haven't heard that yet...gonna go check the crime sites and see what I can find.
Can you give me a heads up on where you saw or heard this? Thanks.
If they give her those kids back...Good God. What is so stomach churning to me about that scenario is that the US courts are so big on keeping the biological family together, some idiot judge will probably do just that.
Kris
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maddienicks
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posted on January 18, 2001 06:19:00 PM new
Ugh. I found it.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010118/ts/people_adoption_dc_1.html
Kris
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