Julesy
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posted on January 20, 2001 09:13:12 AM new
Anyone watching the "festivities?" President Smirk look's as smarmy as ever, as he steals the office of the presidency, while a bunch of cardboard cut-outs look on. Except for Clinton, who looks more dazzling and better than when he took office 8 yrs ago. Kudos to him for pardoning Susan MacDougal.
Gore would've impressed me had he opted out of this nonsense, in protest.
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toke
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posted on January 20, 2001 09:18:53 AM new
Hey Jules...
Yeah...I'm listening...and holding my breath. I'm turning blue, but so far he hasn't messed up...heh Poor man is not a good public speaker.
Whew. He made it...
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chococake
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posted on January 20, 2001 09:31:08 AM new
I can't bring myself to watch it. After the election, the recount, the bickering here, I don't have much to say this morning.
Today I don't care who anyone voted for, whether we agree or not, who said what to whom on this board about the election.
All I'm feeling today is an overwhelming feeling of saddness.
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bunnicula
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posted on January 20, 2001 09:40:39 AM new
I watched Bush's interview with Barbara Walters last night. An almost painful experience. When he wasn't fumbling about for a reply, he mouthed campaign rhetoric that really didn't answer her questions.
One thing, though, at least with *this* presidency we won't be treated to a constant harangue about the president's wife "running things." Why? Because as she mentioned several times, she has only held "traditional women's jobs." This will alleviate the anxiety felt by some about independent, strong women who do "men's jobs."
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december3
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posted on January 20, 2001 09:57:09 AM new
He doesn't need his wife to run things, he has all those advisors to do it for him. Then again he could ask his dad. He did such a peachy keen job when he was in office.
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njrazd
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posted on January 20, 2001 10:26:01 AM new
One thing, though, at least with *this* presidency we won't be treated to a constant harangue about the president's wife "running things." Why? Because as she mentioned several times, she has only held "traditional women's jobs." This will alleviate the anxiety felt by some about independent, strong women who do "men's jobs."
Bunnicula...the anxiety we feel is not about strong women doing "men's jobs." I am thrilled at all the women who have been, and continue to be, appointed and elected to the various Cabinet/Senate/Congress/Governor positions across the country. Our anxiety comes from an unelected person placing themselves in a position of power because of who they are married to. There are many "traditional" tasks a First Lady is responsible for, mostly dealing with the smooth running of the White House and the activities that occur on an almost daily basis. There are trips and appearances to be made. Then each one will choose one or two pet projects that they devote their energies to. I think of the past First Ladies I admire most and I don't think any less of Jackie Kennedy or LadyBird, etc., because they didn't make themselves head of a committee with a potential to change the entire healthcare system of the U.S.
Now that Hillary herself has been elected to office, she has the duty to serve on whatever committee she likes in whatever capacity the Senate gives her and I wish her all the best. I can't help feeling that if she had been spending more time supervising the activities in the White House instead of trying to surpass her husband, she could have kept a much closer eye on him and prevented some unfortunate liaisons.
argh! edited for spelling & such!
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gravid
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posted on January 20, 2001 10:35:59 AM new
I am with you njrazd. People did not vote for a team. Not + spouse or plus Dad and friends. If we ever have a woman elected president will people expect her to ask him about policy matters? When someone runs a company like General Motors do you expect the spouse to be butting in to the operation?
Let them keep their hands off the tiller.
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rawbunzel
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posted on January 20, 2001 10:54:04 AM new
You would be quite naive to believe that just because a spouse stays out of the limelight that they are not "butting in to the operation". Presidents wives [and corporate head wives] have always had some say about things. Hillary was open about it. I thought that was refreshing since we all knew it was happening anyway.
How can you have forgotten Nancy Regan? Elanor Roosevelt? They were strong women who quite obviously had a hand in decision making.
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KatyD
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posted on January 20, 2001 10:59:11 AM new
I can't help feeling that if she had been spending more time supervising the activities in the White House instead of trying to surpass her husband, she could have kept a much closer eye on him and prevented some unfortunate liaisons.
Oh My! Now this is a first. It was all Hilary's fault! ROFLMAO! 
KatyD
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chococake
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posted on January 20, 2001 11:03:38 AM new
So, I guess now that the Clinton bashers don't have Bill to kick around any more it's only natural to start on Hillary.
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rawbunzel
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posted on January 20, 2001 11:04:20 AM new
Hi KatyD, Apparently women are supposed to watch their men all the time, I guess that is what the song "Stand by Your Man" really meant. We just have to keep them out of trouble as they must be incapable of staying out of it themselves. LOL!
The new mantra seems to be "women should be seen, but not heard" .Feel like a child yet?
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toke
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posted on January 20, 2001 11:11:24 AM new
chococake...
You have to be kidding...Bill will never go away! In fact, I don't think he'll ever even stop saying goodbye...LOL!
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chococake
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posted on January 20, 2001 11:16:13 AM new
toke - I hope he never goes away! But, she is the one holding an office now.
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KatyD
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posted on January 20, 2001 11:23:22 AM new
And njrzad, by your own reasoning, Laura Bush is responsible for GW's admitted favorite pastime of "chasing p***y". Guess she has her job cut out for her after all. ROFLMAO twice!!
KatyD
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toke
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posted on January 20, 2001 11:28:54 AM new
KatyD...
LOL! Did he really say that?!!? Maybe he truly is an honest man...
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labrat4gmos
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posted on January 20, 2001 11:34:27 AM new
"the anxiety we feel is not about strong women doing "men's jobs."
**Like the "men's jobs" are being done so well by the men! HA!
Njrazd: "Our anxiety comes from an unelected person placing themselves in a position of power because of who they are married to."
**or an elected person placing themselves in
position because who they are BORN to????
"traditional tasks...smooth running of the White House...activities that occur on an almost daily basis."
**Sounds like a maid or slave to me!
"she could have kept a much closer eye on him and prevented some unfortunate liaisons."
** No comment. Edited to say: I changed my mind. I can't remember the research numbers but isn't it between 60-70% of all married men who have had affairs? I think women have better things to do then watch those bums. After all women are strong enough to work three jobs.. an outside one, home care and child rearing. No help from their husbands in most cases...husbands who can't keep their own zippers zipped, much less their socks picked up or dishes washed!!!!
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junquemama
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posted on January 20, 2001 12:29:42 PM new
I am enjoying the protests most of all.
Some of those signs.....
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njrazd
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posted on January 20, 2001 12:31:11 PM new
**or an elected person placing themselves in position because who they are BORN to????
Are we talking about Bush or Gore?
by your own reasoning, Laura Bush is responsible for GW's admitted favorite pastime of "chasing p***y". Guess she has her job cut out for her after all.
I can't imagine that the press would not have been able to dig up some of this p***y if it had existed. Chasing & catching are two different things. Sounds like some good ol' boy talk & no action.
**Sounds like a maid or slave to me!
They are not asking her to wash the dishes. There is a lot of work that goes into running a huge household that is also one of the most well-known places in the world. Actually, I could not imagine a more exciting job than meeting international dignitaries and entertaining the most important people in the world.
And say what you want about Hillary not keeping an eye on Bill. If I had a husband who cheated on me, and for whatever reason I decided to stay with him, I couldn't imagine ever giving him the opportunity to continue cheating. One of those fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. While it may not be her responsibility to make him behave, I can't imagine any wife who could honestly sit by while her husband treated her and her daughter with such dishonor & disrespect.
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KatyD
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posted on January 20, 2001 12:41:33 PM new
I can't imagine that the press would not have been able to dig up some of this p***y if it had existed. Chasing & catching are two different things. Sounds like some good ol' boy talk & no action.
Oh it's true, and has been documented. But it appears that you prefer to attribute it to good ol' boy talk and it makes it okay in your book. On the other hand, perhaps if GW were to asked, under sworn oath, if he ever chased..um.."p" and what he did when he caught it  we would know the definitive answer. Regardless, I'm sure a case can be made that it is most definitely Laura's fault. After all, a good woman oughta be able to keep her husband satisfied at home, eh?
KatyD
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december3
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posted on January 20, 2001 01:29:40 PM new
If there were any women, they'll show up after he's in office for awhile. It doesn't seem to bother them to sleep with a governor, it's only after the guy gets elected president these women feel the need to go public.
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labrat4gmos
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posted on January 20, 2001 01:37:30 PM new
"Are we talking about Bush or Gore?"
**Both.
"I can't imagine any wife who could honestly sit by while her husband treated her and her daughter with such dishonor & disrespect."
**Actually I don't think she did...not privately anyway. What should she have done... cried, stomped her feet, swore a little, left the White House? Some of the talk on the Washington area talk shows or in columns have indicated over the last year that she has her own agenda...public office, maybe? Why pitch a public tantrum when you have your own fish to fry. She held her own with calmness in public. Maybe when she doesn't need Bill any more she will let him go. Hopefully after Chelsea is a little older...she has been through enough. Heck, I wouldn't let him go right now either...accept in the bedroom of course.
Oh well, I am upset today because I couldn't be in DC protesting. It is now sleeting in the D.C burbs.
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joice
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posted on January 20, 2001 01:55:27 PM new
Hello Everyone,
I have deleted all the posts with the word that you all chose to try and disguise with *'s as part of the letters.
If I missed any, please edit.
Joice
Moderator.
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KatyD
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posted on January 20, 2001 02:11:40 PM new
May I ask you, joice exactly what word you prefer us to use when we quote the words our illustrious President actually used? Perhaps there is a list of "synonyms" or "euphemisms" that are on the moderators approved list for words that can be printed in family newspapers, but are not allowed on AW? Precisely, how would one "quote" an "objectionable" comment made by our President without the use of asterisks in order that our moderators sensitivities are not offended?
KatyD
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mauimoods
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posted on January 20, 2001 02:16:01 PM new
Behind every great man is a greater woman
I dont know what joice is talking about, but I dont see alot of "s"'s, so I guess Im safe.
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mauimoods
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posted on January 20, 2001 02:18:11 PM new
Was it just me, or was that inaugral parade really yucky? The marching bands were not in time, the lines were all scattered, the "marchers" themselves were off beat with each other and most of the songs they played sucked. Sure wasnt a Tournament of Roses Parade, was it?
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snowyegret
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posted on January 20, 2001 02:43:34 PM new
He's no Gary Cooper.
I wonder if Borillar is there protesting?
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labrat4gmos
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posted on January 20, 2001 02:44:16 PM new
I think that the bands probably didn't have alot of time to get ready because the "selection" process took so long. The weather could have had alot to do with the sound too.
I didn't see most of it. I thought it was over because ABC quit covering it, after Peter Jennings stuck his opinions in every
place he could stick 'em of course. Did see the last part, did sound pretty bad.
I was only looking once in awhile...seems like there were alot of Texas bands.
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Antiquary
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posted on January 20, 2001 03:43:51 PM new
My Word!!!!(Is that expression still safe?????) Bush and Ashcroft have barely assumed office and already the new censorship, exceeding that of the mainstream news media, has been embraced by AW. Golly gee willikers, that was fast.
Off to see if I can find a re-run of Ozzie and Harriet and try to catch up with the times.
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onezippyone
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posted on January 20, 2001 03:52:07 PM new
Dan, you read my mind!
Rawbunzel, you too. Hello. Just who do people think was in charge when Ronnie occasionally checked out. Um...ah...that reminds me of a story...
Serendipity & Peace...
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rawbunzel
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posted on January 20, 2001 03:59:08 PM new
Dan, That is so true! AW is getting pretty conservative all of a sudden. Perhaps this is the way of "compassionate conservatism"? I am still and will be for some time trying to figure out what that means.
Heck and oh-golly-gee,I'm going to have to learn me a new way of talking.
Oh Zippy! A story! I hope it doesn't have any bad words in it! Do tell!
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