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 gravid
 
posted on April 5, 2001 06:30:03 AM new
What an opportunity. They should snatch him while he is outside China with less security and hold him until the 24 airmen are returned. Maybe send an ear or other unimportant body part every few days to help them see the need to move along.
Give me an hour in a room with him and a single edge razor blade and I will change his outlook on the value of human dignity.
He may never be able to sleep well again but small loss.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on April 5, 2001 07:05:14 AM new
>"They should snatch him while he is outside China with less security and hold him until the 24 airmen are returned."

What? And pass up this chance to further embarrass Bush's ineptness and complete incompetance? Remember the mileage that the Republicans got from Carter over the Iran Embassy Hostage Crisis in the late 1970's? Especially after the GOP bribed the Iranians to keep holding them hostage long after they were willing to return them. (it cost Carter his re-election bid)



 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on April 5, 2001 07:10:19 AM new
Brilliant diplomacy.

 
 HJW
 
posted on April 5, 2001 07:17:17 AM new
gravid,

I am suffering physical and psychological distress, with a sense of
confusion, uncertainty and anxiety...the kind of shock that affects
people exposed to an alien environment without adequate preparation.

Your posts make adventure fiction look like silly nonsense.

But, what really worries me is that you may be serious???

Helen





 
 zilvy
 
posted on April 5, 2001 08:54:24 AM new
Ummm it could reduce this whole situation to
the exchange of body parts....I don't think
our people would like that very much .

 
 gravid
 
posted on April 5, 2001 01:43:54 PM new
HJW - It would never happen because the politicians don't really value the 24 enough to DO anything to get them back.

If I were in charge of getting them back the Chinese would remember for a hundred years never to touch an American without expecting a butcher's bill to be paid. Cold? Better believe it. They have no regard for people in their culture, but if they can't be taught
respect they can learn fear. It would serve the purpose just as well.

The Roman's had that sort of respect. If you were a Roman citizen you could walk the roads and the locals were very careful not to lay a hand on you, because the price was too dear.
They might come and kill everything alive in the whole town pull the walls down and sow the fields with salt and cut all the trees down so that nobody could even move in after. When people went by later and saw the flat dead land with no buildings or trees they would be told - "Oh the town that was there. They allowed a Roman to be hurt as he was passing through."


 
 HJW
 
posted on April 5, 2001 05:18:06 PM new
gravid,

Your topics always inspire me to do a little research...so I have been cruising around the web all day.

I appreciate your answer!

Helen

 
 Borillar
 
posted on April 5, 2001 06:06:27 PM new
Gravid: I appreciate your anger towards this indignity that ALL Americans are having to suffer right now. If Bush had been forthcoming of our intentions and policies concerning China instead of blowing-off the Chinese delgation recently, I doubt that we'd be in this bind. However, I suggest that you watch Saving Private Ryan a few times to simmer down a bit and to regain your senses.



 
 gravid
 
posted on April 5, 2001 07:45:17 PM new
Borillar - HJW - Thanks. I do get cold blooded angry. Runs in the family. Not good.

I guess I am silly to think a leader's first obligation is to protect his people. Now I feel they first ask - "Will it hurt our ability to make money?"

Soldiers are assets - to spend if they can buy something of value. Sometimes I think they are spent foolishly.

Been studying Romans? Look in the Bible and see how they treated Paul. They dragged him into the soldier's quarters and tied him down and were getting ready to torture him to get some answers out of him. He just asked them - " Is it really legal for you to do this to me - a Roman citizen?" Boy did that change the tune! They scared themselves spitless at what they almost did. Such an innocent little question sure got their attention.

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