krs
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posted on May 31, 2001 11:26:20 AM new
Timothy McVeigh will seek a stay of execution.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010531/ts/mcveigh_execution.html
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gs4
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posted on May 31, 2001 12:44:50 PM new
Why? I thought he was ready to die for the cause. What a gutless wonder.
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mark090
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posted on May 31, 2001 12:50:15 PM new
Oh hell......
Just let him go....on a dark and lonely road...after letting the victim's families know the exact location. Then just drive away. I doubt they would find a piece of him big enough to identify.
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zilvy
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posted on May 31, 2001 12:52:30 PM new
I will wager that the "martyr" in him is on hold so that he can revel in yet "one more" foul up by the Government. The problem is letting him die with a smile on his face!!
By the way is it known who is paying the legal fees? Does he have angels out there with deep pockets...who are these people?
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Hjw
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posted on May 31, 2001 01:30:25 PM new
I believe that the constitutional rights of everyone should be protected.
There is no question, in my opinion that this was a fraudulent trial.
Besides that, there is a possibility that other people were involved. Failure to use every opportunity to find these people, only to pursue revenge by killing McVeigh is irresponsible, in my opinion.
Helen
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mark090
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:15:17 AM new
If you want to protect someone's right, how about the 168 innocent victims McVeigh CHEERFULLY AND JOVIALLY admits he slaughtered. You must think the dead have no soul and aren't worth the sweat off your brow, yet an admitted monster of a human being deserves all the American people have to give and more while he laughs in your face and spits.
As for others involved, maybe they are still looking for others, in spite of McVeigh's statements that he worked alone. However, do YOU hunt for deer by walking through the woods with a megaphone, loudly announcing that you are looking for deer???
[ edited by mark090 on Jun 1, 2001 06:16 AM ]
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:36:34 AM new
Believe me, I am not defending McVeigh but rather the constitutional
rights of this country. They would be worthless if we decided to
selectively apply them to only "some" Americans.
Eventually, McVeigh will be found guilty but killing him will possibly
jeopardize the investigation into other conspirators who may be involved and who may have plans to repeat his monstrous action.
Helen
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mark090
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posted on June 1, 2001 07:17:20 AM new
Even McVeigh's own lawyers admitted, however reluctantly, that the new papers will do absolutely nothing to the outcome of the case. The only thing that is obvious is WHEN MCVEIGH DIES, THEY STOP GETTING PAID. Truth, Justice, Constitution and the American way are not pertinent when it comes to high profile cases defense lawyers.
And how will McVeigh's death hinder the investigation? Has science come up with a method of attaching electrodes to his head and sucking the information out against his will? I doubt the courts would even allow that as well they shouldn't. The fact remains, you have gotten as much info out of McVeigh as you are going to get. All he is doing now is gloating.....
[ edited by mark090 on Jun 1, 2001 07:19 AM ]
[ edited by mark090 on Jun 1, 2001 08:26 AM ]
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 08:27:09 AM new
WHEN MCVEIGH DIES, THEY STOP GETTING PAID
Who's paying them now? McVeigh has no money.
[ edited by jamesoblivion on Jun 1, 2001 08:28 AM ]
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mark090
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posted on June 1, 2001 08:40:26 AM new
Probably you are....or your tax money. Remember, every monster in society has the right to drag out the court process indefinitely. If the lawyers weren't paid they would leave faster than rats abandoning a sinking ship.
I can only imagine the conversation between McVeigh and his lawyers when those papers were discovered..."You know, Mr. McVeigh, if you do not demand a stay and a retrial, we will be forced to go back to chasing ambulances and hanging outside the emergency room doors of the local hospitals."
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 08:47:58 AM new
I doubt it. If a defendant can't afford a lawyer, the state provides some hack not an expert legal team. These guys are more then likely working largely pro bono.
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zilvy
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posted on June 1, 2001 09:20:41 AM new
We were discussing how these attorneys were being paid and are in a quandry. High profile case, highly unlikely to result in aquittal (what do they gain reputation wise)?
We have the feeling there is a group behind him paying the way - not that they were directly involved in what he did but just to keep the US Gov't looking bad as far as the case is concerned. Does anyone have any background on this that they can share?
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 09:45:59 AM new
I was actually thinking something along those lines as soon as I wrote "pro bono".
That didn't really make sense to me, as attourneys who work pro bono cases out of moral opposition to the death penalty usually choose someone a bit more, shall we say, sympathetic to defend. So it can't be that.
Obviously their reputations as attourneys don't really get enhanced in a case which they don't win. So, unless these attourneys are of the sort who consider their names in the papers to be worth the money they aren't earning in the time spent on this case they may be in fact paid from some interested third party. I shudder to think who this interested party footing the bill might be.
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fred
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posted on June 1, 2001 10:14:34 AM new
The lawyers will make money on the book rights from the case.
Money he is now receiving comes from the interviews he has given to the news media, along with advancements from the publisher of his book to be written by one of the news people who has interviewed McVeigh.
My opinion.
Fred
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krs
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posted on June 1, 2001 10:56:21 AM new
mark090,
Can you provide a link to the source of the information which you've provided with this statement?:
"Even McVeigh's own lawyers admitted, however reluctantly, that the new papers will do absolutely nothing to the outcome of the case"
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mark090
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posted on June 1, 2001 11:54:34 AM new
It was on the new on radio at work. I do not know what station they had it on that day.
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krs
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posted on June 1, 2001 01:48:46 PM new
Um, hmm.
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:31:04 PM new
Oh, James.
I'm so sorry to see...you're not.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:38:15 PM new
Not what?
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:40:43 PM new
Not....yourself....
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:41:17 PM new
I'm not?!
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:41:57 PM new
Nope...
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:43:20 PM new
Oh. *shocked*
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:44:09 PM new
I'm sure...
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:49:32 PM new
Also baffled...
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:53:57 PM new
Uh huh...
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 02:56:13 PM new
Have you ever felt like somehow there's a joke that everyone is getting but you?
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:05:03 PM new
Not lately...
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:08:50 PM new
Ever get the feeling you're going in circles?
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:14:15 PM new
Do you?
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