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 ashlandtrader
 
posted on June 13, 2001 04:58:42 PM new
Last night we went out to eat at a buffet place and I was looking for a parking spot. I turned the corner as I could see a truck was pulling out. I stopped and waited. Another car coming in on the other side also sat. (I should mention that we both got there at the same time) There were at least 3-4 empty handicapped spots. This car had a handicapped sticker/sign. I thought she would take one of the many handicapped spots and then I would pull into the ONE remaining non handicapped spot. This "lady" proceeded to take the non handicapped spot. How rude is that?

I am totally supportive of handicapped parking and if there had been just ONE or two empty spots, I would have kept moving and never thought twice about it. But this lady was RUDE. I wanted to follow her into the resturant and talk to her, but my levelheaded husband kept me from talking to her.

Anyway I just had to tell someone about it so I can let it go.

Rant over and I feel better. Thanks!

 
 Zazzie
 
posted on June 13, 2001 05:09:15 PM new
I use to have a handicap sticker for my car, but the sticker was for my father. I was told that when I got the sticker, if my father was not in the car and I used a handicapped spot I could be fined. I was only to park in them when my father was a passenger.

Many times in busy parking lots when I was by myself I was tempted to park in one of the nice big spots, but my Good Angel beat up my Bad Angel and wouldn't let me.

edited cause I can
[ edited by Zazzie on Jun 13, 2001 05:10 PM ]
 
 ashlandtrader
 
posted on June 13, 2001 05:12:22 PM new
Hi Zazzie,
You know I hadn't thought of that! Thanks for telling me. Maybe she had something like that going on.
:0)

 
 donny
 
posted on June 13, 2001 06:50:55 PM new
You know, even if a person is handicapped, they're not required to use a handicapped parking space. It's not like people are being quarantined in them. I think it's completely insupportable to consider someone else rude merely because they chose, for any reason, to use a regular parking space.
 
 chococake
 
posted on June 13, 2001 07:57:36 PM new
I have a handicapped parking place card. I only use it when I'm having a bad day. I figure on good days someone else needs it more than I do, and it would do me good to walk a little.
This is the opposite of most complaints. Usually people say you don't look disabled why do you have a place card? People think you have to be in a wheel chair or something. Now that's rude!

 
 ashlandtrader
 
posted on June 13, 2001 08:45:02 PM new
I hear you Donny and Chococake--
I have many faults and am always trying to do better. Like I said this was just a vent. I appreciate your input.

But Donny-- she was rude because she saw that I had also been waiting. She just hit the gas pedal faster than I did.

You're right-- she had the right to park there too, but courtesy goes both ways.

Please excuse my typos-- daughter is almost asleep here on my lap........

 
 donny
 
posted on June 13, 2001 09:28:40 PM new
*smile*
 
 Borillar
 
posted on June 13, 2001 09:46:03 PM new
I am legally handicapped, but I have never applied for a handicapped parking sticker. I feel that it oughto to be reserved for those who have no other choice, but to have help to and from their destination -- I can still walk a little ways.

What makes me mad is around here, I see a car with a single person drive into a handicapped parking spot and an apparently perfectly healthy person gets out and goes shopping. I have also seen vans that have the REAL handicapped people inside looking for an open handicapped parking space, but they are all taken up by others whomay not be handicapped at all.

Then, the worst arrogance is the morotcyclists who feel that the large, yellow striped box between two handicapped parking spots is a place meant just for them to park in!

I think that a $2,500 fine for the first offence and $5,000 for each subsequent offences like these would curb the whole problem. But the stores arround here do not want their customers, however nasty, to be ticketed and towed away for fear of loosing business and the cops know it and do nothing at all about it.

So, if you manage to get handicapped around here, it's screw-you!



 
 debbielennon
 
posted on June 13, 2001 11:32:06 PM new
A store I worked at in NY had an officer routinely patrol their parking lot and issue tickets to those that parked in handicapped spots without permits or in the fire lane.

Customer service goes both ways; we were getting complaints that handicapped spots were not available because they were being used indiscriminately. Guess it depends on the attitude of management.

Another store in the same chain that I worked for was having a huge pumpkin delivered for a display. The farmer decided to park in a handicapped spot. While he was in the store making arrangements, he received a parking ticket! (I believe the store paid it for him, though.)
 
 mtnmama
 
posted on June 14, 2001 05:24:05 AM new
"What makes me mad is around here, I see a car with a single person drive into a handicapped parking spot and an apparently perfectly healthy person gets out and goes shopping."

There are many invisible handicaps such as heart disease, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia just to name a few. The person could look as healthy as could be, but is handicapped.

I'm disabled now from the open heart surgery and fibromyalgia. To "look" at me, one would say I'm healthy but I'm still qualified for a handicap sticker. (I don't have one, though, walking is healthier).

You can't judge a book by its cover. Just because someone has a handicap sticker or license tag or mirror hanger, doesn't mean they're handicapped and doesn't mean they're not. Unless you've walked a mile in their shoes, please don't be so quick to judge others.

Ashladtrader, you said ". Another car coming in on the other side also sat. (I should mention that we both got there at the same time)" and then said, "But Donny-- she was rude because she saw that I had also been waiting. She just hit the gas pedal faster than I did."

You're right-- she had the right to park there too, but courtesy goes both ways.

Consider yourself the courteous one in this case. She did have the right to park there since you both arrived at the same time. Even if you had arrived earlier, she hit the gas pedal faster. Happens all the time. If she didn't have a handicap sticker, would you have gotten as angry?

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[ edited by mtnmama on Jun 14, 2001 05:25 AM ]
 
 sjl1017
 
posted on June 14, 2001 07:12:18 AM new
Handicapped parking aside. What are your thoughts on those @#$%^ "stork" spots right next to the handicapped spots in the parking lots? Those thing make me nuts. Since when is having kids a handicap??? I had my spine fused last year and could use a shorter walk every so often but they give out primo parking spots to perfectly healthy people with kids in tow!!! AACCKK!!!

Sorry, had to vent. I love when I see a single guy parking in those spots.

 
 debbielennon
 
posted on June 14, 2001 08:24:08 AM new
I have only seen "Stork" parking spots for expectant mothers. I do think those are a good idea. It is not easy to walk great distances when you are very pregnant. They are also good from a customer service standpoint.
 
 mtnmama
 
posted on June 14, 2001 01:09:15 PM new
Stork spots? Ridiculous! I walked when I was 9 months pregnant. Why can't the prima donna's of today walk?

Walking is the best exercise you can do for yourself and your unborn baby. It promotes circulation and cardiovascular health. It also helps keep the weight off. Too many new moms today can't lose the weight they gained while pregnant. They gained too much IMO by not walking and overeating. I worked in an OB ward before I got sick and it disgusted me to see how obese these women were after delivery. I don't mean baby obese, I mean plain old hanging fat!

A lot of times, these stork spots are closer to the stores than handicap spots. What's wrong with this picture?

JMO

 
 xifene
 
posted on June 14, 2001 05:47:44 PM new
Somehow I can't quite reconcile these two statements, mtnmama.

Just because someone has a handicap sticker or license tag or mirror hanger, doesn't mean they're handicapped and doesn't mean they're not. Unless you've walked a mile in their shoes, please don't be so quick to judge others.

and

Stork spots? Ridiculous! I walked when I was 9 months pregnant. Why can't the prima donna's of today walk?

Quick to judge, indeed.

--xifene--
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 hepburn
 
posted on June 14, 2001 06:14:55 PM new
Hold on a sec...a STORK SPOT??? For WHAT???? I have never seen one, nor better not.

 
 SnowyEgrEt
 
posted on June 14, 2001 06:24:06 PM new
Have egg, will park

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on June 14, 2001 06:33:14 PM new
Stork spots? Ridiculous! I walked when I was 9 months pregnant. Why can't the prima donna's of today walk?

I'd never heard of, much less seen a "stork spot" but even I know that not all pregnancies are created equal.

 
 lotsafuzz
 
posted on June 14, 2001 06:41:44 PM new
Every time I start thinking, "Gee, it would be so nice to park that close to the store" I smack myself on the head and thank God that I don't *have* to use one of those spaces (either handicapped OR stork....actuall, more so on the stork ones ).

I did have a run in a few years ago when I'd taken my grandparents to the mall. They had a handicapped sticker on the car, and I'd run out to drop off some packages and this man (who obviously thought I was some scum bag stealing handicapped stickers) YELLED at me across the parking lot! He was so enraged that I wasn't about to approach him.

A bit later I ran into him (with my grandparents) in the mall and he looked like he wanted to swallow his teeth.

 
 hepburn
 
posted on June 14, 2001 06:49:18 PM new
If a pregnancy requires a "stork spot" space, then the woman DAMN sure shouldnt be driving with the same "condition" to warrant it.

 
 sjl1017
 
posted on June 14, 2001 07:13:09 PM new
Well said Hepburn...if they can't walk TO the store how the heck are they walking around IN the store!!! Then again, I live in one of those uppity, frou-frou areas where everyone drives the status SUVs or the big, fancy German cars. They're all a bunch of self-important, self-entitled snots anyway.

You can all tell what my pet-peeve is!!!

 
 SnowyEgrEt
 
posted on June 14, 2001 07:20:22 PM new
I guess I shoulda stayed barefoot in the kitchen.

But I had to go pick up my fluids and meds weekly.

 
 hepburn
 
posted on June 14, 2001 07:51:03 PM new
But youre an exception, snoweyegret. You park wherever you want and the STORK DELIVERY SERVICE will come right to your car

 
 SnowyEgrEt
 
posted on June 14, 2001 08:04:53 PM new
Hepburn, it almost did! lol

DH had to fill up with gas, put oil in the car, got pulled over on the way back from the ATM for erratic driving. The police officer's face was pretty funny when I came out.


An errant c
[ edited by SnowyEgrEt on Jun 14, 2001 08:17 PM ]
 
 mtnmama
 
posted on June 17, 2001 09:34:47 AM new
xifene, sorry I didn't make it more plain to you. There are a lot of invisible handicaps that aren't noticeable to the viewer. It was said

What makes me mad is around here, I see a car with a single person drive into a handicapped parking spot and an apparently perfectly healthy person gets out and goes shopping.

My entire response was there and most likely if you had bothered to read it all, that last sentence would have made sense to you.

Here it is in it's entirety:

There are many invisible handicaps such as heart disease, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia just to name a few. The person could look as healthy as could be, but is handicapped. I'm disabled now from the open heart surgery and fibromyalgia. To "look" at me, one would say I'm healthy but I'm still qualified for a handicap sticker. (I don't have one, though, walking is healthier). You can't judge a book by its cover. Just because someone has a handicap sticker or license tag or mirror hanger, doesn't mean they're handicapped and doesn't mean they're not. Unless you've walked a mile in their shoes, please don't be so quick to judge others.

As far as the second statement, it was a whole other question I believe, about stork spots. Again, to read the entire opinion will put things into better perspective for you.


Here's the rest of my opinion and I hope it helps you to understand what I said a little better.

Walking is the best exercise you can do for yourself and your unborn baby. It promotes circulation and cardiovascular health. It also helps keep the weight off. Too many new moms today can't lose the weight they gained while pregnant. They gained too much IMO by not walking and overeating. I worked in an OB ward before I got sick and it disgusted me to see how obese these women were after delivery. I don't mean baby obese,I mean plain old hanging fat!

(These women were crying over why they didn't lose all their weight. When polled more than half said they never got any exercise at all.)

I don't expect people to agree with my opinions, but to say I judge when you don't take the entire opinion into context, then that's judging me, don't you think? LOL!

jamesoblivion!!!!! How are ya?
I'd never heard of, much less seen a "stork spot" but even I know that not all pregnancies are created equal.

This may be true, but if ya can't walk, then you probably belong in bed, because most pregnant women are told to walk especially in the last month. It helps the delivery go smoother. We used to have them walk around and around the hospital halls. These women had never walked before.

I've seen women with infants parking in these spots. Not pregnant, obviously, because the infants are no more than a month or two old.
That's really taking advantage of the situation.

Snowy, did the officer ticket you?

edited for UBB and again for UBB. Will it work this time?


[ edited by mtnmama on Jun 17, 2001 09:40 AM ]
[ edited by mtnmama on Jun 17, 2001 09:43 AM ]
 
 sjl1017
 
posted on June 17, 2001 08:18:36 PM new
The "stork" spots around here aren't reserved just for expectant mothers. They are also intended for parents with children in tow. AACCKK!

 
 debbielennon
 
posted on June 17, 2001 09:51:50 PM new
I'll also guess that the Stork Spots are primarily located at stores which cater to parents with young children, such as grocery stores & toy stores.

It's a Public Relations/Customer Service issue. You might not like 'em, but you can bet that anyone with or expecting a baby likes 'em...
 
 MrsSantaClaus
 
posted on June 17, 2001 11:16:11 PM new
For those who don't agree with "stork spots" for expectant mothers please think back to when you were 9 months pregnant, couldn't breathe, and it felt like with every step your insides would fall out ....


Becky

 
 mtnmama
 
posted on June 18, 2001 05:38:36 AM new
Becky

Yep, I remember that. I was also due that day. If someone can't breathe or has a hard time driving or walking, someone shouldn't be going to the mall to shop.

All the stork spots I've seen are in large malls and at one grocery store here. People usually just ignore the sign and park anyway. Moms with small children can walk very well. I had 2 small children under the age of 3 and did okay. No stork spots back then. I don't know how I managed grocery shopping if I had to walk an extra 10 feet.

JMHO so don't bash please.

 
 MrsSantaClaus
 
posted on June 18, 2001 08:58:32 AM new
To the mall - no. To WalMart to buy diapers, nursing bras, a a nightgown to wear to the hospital - yes.

Also, knowing I was facing a scheduled c, I needed to prepare for being in the house for a couple of weeks at the minimum.

No bashing - just remembering

BECKY

 
 luculent
 
posted on June 18, 2001 11:52:50 AM new
Our best one happened with one of our employees. We all work on our feet all day, anywhere from 8 to 10 hours. We had one employee that worked the 10 hour shift, on her feet, loading furniture, moving stuff.

But she had asthma which she had a handicap
parking sticker for. We always had our employees park at the back of the lot, but she insisted that she was handicapped and used a handicapped spot right outside the door.

She could walk our 35,000 sq. ft. shop for 10 hours, but could not walk an extra half-block across the parking lot.

Needless to say, she was not in our employ very long.

Lucy

 
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