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 Coonr
 
posted on September 17, 2002 08:15:47 PM new
PayPal (Nasdaq:PYPL - News), a leading Internet payment service and Website Pros, a leading provider of website building tools, announced a co-marketing agreement today that expands PayPal's reach into the largest website development community in Germany. Together, the companies will market the German version NetObjects Fusion 7 to more than 1.5 million loyal NetObjects website developers across the country.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020917/170100_1.html



[ edited by Coonr on Sep 17, 2002 08:16 PM ]
 
 thchaser200
 
posted on September 17, 2002 09:22:47 PM new
and, your point is?

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on September 18, 2002 05:38:36 AM new
may be paypal will ask the website developers to sell its services??

 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 18, 2002 07:29:33 AM new
My point is despite all the BULL and misinformation floating around here, PayPal continues to GROW.

 
 thchaser200
 
posted on September 18, 2002 07:54:32 AM new
Most web delevopers work with real shopping carts, not paypal

 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 18, 2002 08:01:59 AM new
You may notice that is a changing trend with announcements like the above.

PayPal fills a nitch much more economical and differently than a gateway/merchant account.

 
 TMMamoru
 
posted on September 18, 2002 09:40:11 AM new
Yes. Perfect for fly-by-night companies, and frauds.

 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 18, 2002 09:48:12 AM new
Yea, at least one thought it was a good way to fund eGold accounts!

 
 kkaaz
 
posted on September 18, 2002 06:49:32 PM new
so does that now mean you can support hate groups, order illegal software, build weapons , pay for porn, or online gamble with paypal funds from Germany ????
 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 18, 2002 07:10:28 PM new
You sure do seem to be real interested in hate groups, ordering illegal software, building weapons , paying for porn, or online gambling. Perhaps you should have a morals check up. As far as I know, you can mail a check or MO for all the above, so go picket your bank and the postal service.



[ edited by Coonr on Sep 18, 2002 07:12 PM ]
 
 kkaaz
 
posted on September 18, 2002 07:20:56 PM new
coonr:

I have yet to see a hate site with my bank logo. Or online porn with my bank logo, or online casino's with my bank logo on it. Or a site who offeres illegal software take funds from my bank...


I can not say the same for Paypal.

Just saw another Paypal logo in a current Magazine ebing offered on a gamling website...

They know where their money comes from. They don't just don't care.....


That is why they somehow have the nerve to still charge a seller fees after Paypal gives them bad fees. As long as paypal gets paid, they don't care who gets hurt along the way.
 
 kkaaz
 
posted on September 18, 2002 07:33:43 PM new
[As far as I know, you can mail a check or MO for all the above, so go picket your bank and the postal service. ]

I am sorry.

Is it my bank who has been asked to stop buisness in an entire state or was it paypal ?

Is it my bank who has tons of hate sites around the world or is it Paypal ?


Is it my bank who is getting sued for stuff like freezing funds or is it Paypal ?

Is it the postal service who has a mail fraud complaint link rather then making profit off mail fruad or is it Paypal ?


is this from a hate sites source code:

"We are a verified business member of PayPal Pay Services/span. PayPal allows you to send money to us safely over the internet. If you have a Visa, Master Card, American Express or Discover card you can use it for memberships, gift shop items, simple donations, subscriptions, etc"

that offers donations and payments thru Paypal and uses the paypal name or does it say my bank name ?



But the day my bank knowingly allows someone to fraud me, I may do something about it. The day my bank breaks a user agreement with me, I may do something about it.
 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 18, 2002 07:41:27 PM new
Is it my bank who has been asked to stop buisness in an entire state or was it paypal ?

Must have been your bank. Was not PayPal.

Is it my bank who has tons of hate sites around the world or is it Paypal ?

Not sure, who is your bank?

Is it my bank who is getting sued for stuff like freezing funds or is it Paypal ?

Not sure, who is your bank?

Is it the postal service who has a mail fraud complaint link rather then making profit off mail fruad or is it Paypal ?

Did the postal service refund your postage? Guess they are the ones who made the profit.

is this from a hate sites source code:

"We are a verified business member of PayPal Pay Services/span. PayPal allows you to send money to us safely over the internet. If you have a Visa, Master Card, American Express or Discover card you can use it for memberships, gift shop items, simple donations, subscriptions, etc"

How do you know so much about these? do you run them?

that offers donations and payments thru Paypal and uses the paypal name or does it say my bank name ?

As I do not visit those types of sites I would not know.

But the day my bank knowingly allows someone to fraud me, I may do something about it. The day my bank breaks a user agreement with me, I may do something about it.

Given your case, what would your bank have done had the check bounced?


Don't try to confuse the issue. It just makes you look bad.



[ edited by Coonr on Sep 18, 2002 07:42 PM ]
 
 kkaaz
 
posted on September 24, 2002 12:57:07 PM new
[was it my bank who has been asked to stop business in an entire state or was it Paypal ?

Must have been your bank. Was not Paypal. ]

Really coonr Was not Paypal ??

La. asks Paypal to halt service in state
http://news.com.com/2100-1017-834313.html

So that must be a different Paypal or is Louisiana not a state?

Or how about you are wrong and the news article is correct ?


[Is it the postal service who has a mail fraud complaint link rather then making profit off mail fraud or is it Paypal ?

Did the postal service refund your postage? Guess they are the ones who made the profit. ]

Postal service gets paid to ship an item. Not escrow the sale of your goods. If they deliver the item to the address you requested they did the job you paid them to do. If there service is used for mail fraud, you do not pay for the investigation. They will do it at no cost to the victim.

If Paypal gives you "verified" funds and then charges you a fee to receive them and then you do what is required by the payment you are done with there service. They are no longer in service. For Paypal to remove the funds at a later time to escrow a sale without cause or legal right to escrow and then still change a fee for funds you no longer have is borderline stealing. If paypal knows fraud was pulled with one of their accounts, they do not investigation and still change any fees against the party they can. They make sure they are not at a loss. Maybe as far as change their user agreement so they can do it to more people.



[Given your case, what would your bank have done had the check bounced? ]

Checks don't bounce after you bank has said they cleared. If they do, it's no longer your fault. Paypal will give you "verified" funds and allow a buyer 30 days to file a reversal against you even after they get the item. You can not do the same with a cleared check nor will a bank.



So really all this means is Paypal opens it poor services to more people ?
 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 24, 2002 03:24:46 PM new
Lets brush you up on just one fact. That will show how out of touch you really are.

PayPal was NEVER order to halt doing business in La.

 
 kkaaz
 
posted on September 24, 2002 05:58:03 PM new
[PayPal was NEVER order to halt doing business in La.]

Your right Coonr. This must mean something different that what is says.




Louisiana asked the online payments company to cease offering its service to the state's residents until PayPal receives a license from the state

http://news.com.com/2100-1017-834313.html





I thought it said they asked Paypal to cease offering it's service.

They asked. You are correct only in that they did not "order". Nice comeback.

Your correct. It must not say that even though it does. You must be correct. They never ordered them. They asked..

And it clearly says they asked Paypal. But your right. They did not.

Even though that's what I said. "Is it my bank who has been asked to stop buisness in an entire state or was it paypal ? You said it was not paypal.

So I guess you are right and the facts are wrong.
 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 24, 2002 06:38:24 PM new
You ought to get your fact from a more reliable source. PayPal was not orderd or asked to stop doing business in La.

There were later corrections to that story. La. only aksed the to apply for a money transfer lic. which they did. Never asked or ordered them to stop.

 
 kkaaz
 
posted on September 24, 2002 08:00:07 PM new
[You ought to get your fact from a more reliable source..... Never asked or ordered them to stop.]


Oh so new.com is not as wise as coonr. Did all these sites forge the story you claim is not correct ?




According to the Feb. 7 filing, Louisiana regulatory authorities will not let PayPal resume operations in the state until it receives a money transmission license there.
http://www.wired.com/news/ipo/0,1350,50375,00.html



including word that Louisiana regulators sent a Feb. 7 letter ordering the service to stop brokering payments between online buyers and sellers until the company receives a money transmission license.
http://www.naplesnews.com/02/02/business/d745055a.htm
and
http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/invest/2002/02/12/paypal-problems.htm



PayPal Booted Out of State, Under Legal Siege
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/16291.html


New York and Louisiana have told the online payments provider that it violates banking regulations. The service has been shut down in Louisiana. http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20020212S0006

My mistake. Not one of those said Coonr is claiming they are incorrect. Good thing you are hear to fix the mistakes of of the news..

Oh but coonr is right and every article from every site is incorrect.

I hope Paypal give you a big christmas bonus this year.






 
 Coonr
 
posted on September 24, 2002 08:51:22 PM new
Keep looking. I am sure if you wanted to you could find the retractions. But that would not help your argument would it? If it helps, I am a Louisiana resident, and I can prove PayPal has not missed a day in La. (You just have to get into my account records which probably aint gonna happen, since you could not keep your own account straight.)

If you like, you can check with the Office of Finacial Institutions, in Baton Rouge, La. and learn from them, the story was mis reported by the AP and later corrected by the State Office of Finacial Institutions.





[ edited by Coonr on Sep 24, 2002 09:57 PM ]
 
 
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