dbest
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posted on June 22, 2003 05:19:06 PM new
This is so I can get ready.
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vvalhalla
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posted on June 22, 2003 05:44:16 PM new
Very spotty, sometimes once a month sometimes every six months. I'd be inclined to wager there'll be another one soon because someone decided to do the recent one but I'm a gambler anyway.
dd
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 22, 2003 08:09:47 PM new
They may do another one soon. They, like most other sites, are waiting for the Froogle tab to be added to the Google site. All Yahoo auctions with Buy It Now prices are automaically indexed into the Froogle engine. I'm sure that Yahoo will try to capitalize on that fact but they need to keep a decent number of listings on hand until that happens.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 22, 2003 08:43:48 PM new
OTOH: who cares?
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 22, 2003 09:01:37 PM new
It's almost to the point of who cares. Yahoo has to have an FLD every 4 months or risk losing many of the archived listings on their site in the unsold auctions section. They decided a while ago to delete auctions older than 4 months from the site. Those old listings are easy to list on FLDs.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 22, 2003 09:51:45 PM new
Last FLD I listed on BooHoo 5 items of mine that CONSISTANTLY sell for 5Xcost on feeBay -- Few views & NO BIDS!
I will ONLY list on BooHoo from now on if the price is right...$0.00
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
[ edited by tomwiii on Jun 22, 2003 09:52 PM ]
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 22, 2003 11:28:24 PM new
The Great Hope for most auction sellers will be for Froogle to be at least a mild hit. If buyers could get in a habit of first searching ebay and then Froogle for the items they seek it would help put pressure on ebay to not be such a domaineering monopoly. Yahoo Auctions and Stores could benefit from a Froogle success. I hope Google plans to promote the shopping search engine.
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replaymedia
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posted on June 23, 2003 06:48:44 AM new
If you read the past messages here, you'll see that I used to be a big Yahoo supporter. Not anymore.
I listed 8000 items on the last FLD. Sold 20, with 5 NPBs, leaving 15 real sales.
15/8000 = one tenth of a percent. Sad.
And this is stuff that previously did 10% sell-though even on previous FLDs at Yahoo.
Like some of the others, I no longer see a point in paying for it. I'll list for free, but I won't go to a lot of effort even then.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 23, 2003 01:49:58 PM new
dbest, I have been a yahoo user for sometime, and there wont be another FLD until September. They have one every 4 months, but they can sneek in another one if the numbers drop too low.
AuctionAce yahoo is planning on a search feature like froogle. The web address is:
http://products.yahoo.com/
I bought some real nice items last FLD. I always check out yahoo before ebay. 
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 23, 2003 04:04:09 PM new
Thanks BW for the new Yahooogle-like link. They seem light years behind Froogle which is close to going out of beta according to a few sources.
Maybe ebay is counting on a bunch of Froogle-like engines to water down the effects of the web search for merchandise gambit? Like auctions, there is Mighty Ebay and a BUNCH of lesser auction sites, and instead of ebay and just Froogle ,it may be ebay and a BUNCH of Froogle-like sites.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 24, 2003 06:05:26 PM new
A few weeks back I asked some of my customers if they used froogle and not ONE had any clue what it was. Unless they advertise alot your average ebay bidder will never use it. Yahoo on the other hand can place their search on the front page and do much better than froogle since yahoo is a household name. I cant see froogle doing much damage to ebay at all. Yahoo's search will help their stores.....and bidville on yahoo auctions with all the TOS violations. 
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 24, 2003 07:31:09 PM new
It's not fair to judge Froogle yet when it's still in beta testing and not a cent of advertising has been spent. Google is rapidly replacing Yahoo as the place to search or look at the news. Soon Google will be more mainstream than the fading Yahoo. If Google says Froogle is a good choice for shopping then a lot of people will take a gander.
It's still a longshot that it can ever dent ebay in sales. A lot of buyers are tired of ebay power sellers and may want to try a new online shopping expiernce or adventure. Ebay may be the super mall but the smaller sites may have some charm like small shops in the real world.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 25, 2003 09:51:15 PM new
I don't know what you are complaining about. Yahoo's sales rate is the same as it was before listing fees. You have to remember that ebay is king and Yahoo will only be about 10% of what ebay is. For the price, it is a bargain to list slow moving items. For me, NPB have become extinct ever since they were forced over to bidville and ioffer.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 25, 2003 10:46:54 PM new
If you'll read the other posts you'll see that you are in the minority. All of the Yahoo cheerleaders except you have turned sour on Yahoo Auctions. The sales are almost non-existant and even the page hits are way down.
You're a dinosaur.
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vvalhalla
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posted on June 26, 2003 02:37:38 PM new
I'm a dino too because I do pretty well at yahoo too.
dd
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blairwitch
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posted on June 26, 2003 06:05:00 PM new
Another dino here..
I bought some great NES games off yahoo.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 26, 2003 07:35:47 PM new
The roll call is for Dinosaur sellers only please. Taking advantage of desprate sellers does not count.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 27, 2003 09:15:04 PM new
Even Yahoo knew when it was time to get rid of the bidville and ioffer items. You guys complain because you cannot list your worthless commons sports cards and recipe auctions and make a profit. Well I say great. Real bidders don't have to page through pages of crap to find the diamond in the rough. Now the real non-junk items can be found by the bidders and with the deadbeat rate at the lowest in years, it is a pleasure to do business there. And AuctionAce or bidsbids or what ever you are calling yourself these days, blah blah, blah, blah. You still haven't backed up your words.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 27, 2003 10:46:09 PM new
The real bidders left when the 2 or 3 million listings left.
Except for a few newbies the only buyers left on Yahoo Auctions are some old farts that are too set in their ways to figure out how to bid on ebay. Sad but true.
[ edited by AuctionAce on Jun 27, 2003 11:14 PM ]
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blairwitch
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posted on June 28, 2003 06:48:18 PM new
The real bidders left when the 2 or 3 million listings left.
Come on bids we have been over this a million times, but for old times sake what the heck. Here is the timeline for those who were not around at the time.
January 10 2001 at 12:01 am PST yahoo began fees. Sellers ended their items and rushed to 3rd tier sites with auxpal/bidville gaining the most. While the sellers left in droves they failed to carry their bidders with them. Yahoo's listings dropped 90% to 250,000 items. With all the junk off the site the sell through rate increased. Yahoo then began their own NPB process which got rid of many deadbeats, and eliminated the adult items. Nov 20 2001 at 12:00pm PST yahoo changed their fees again for the better and the rest is history.
Due to the showcases and free listing days yahoo's sell through rate continues to grow.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 28, 2003 07:53:54 PM new
Contrary my dear witch. Yahoo continues to die a malingering death. There are no bidders at Yahoo so to speak. Yahoo's TV commercials feature a dolphin in a lagoon that can speak English because of Yahoo. No mention of nothing else. Yahoo is the biggest flop in the history of the Net. It's really sad because it coulda be a contender ( movie cliche ).
Dim must be on vacation eh?
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stonecold613
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posted on June 28, 2003 10:52:09 PM new
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
Go ahead and still at the dead bidville and Ioffer sites. Does the rest of the world a favor anyway. Maybe you could bring back Carnaby as well.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 28, 2003 11:48:31 PM new
The truth hurt a little there icyrock? I lump Bidville and Yahoo together as neither site gets any traffic. Ioffer is only good for it's free store. There is no traffic at ioffer either but at least a seller can create a free store and send his ebay customers or lookers there.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 29, 2003 11:10:47 AM new
Dim must be on vacation eh?
Well bids you were accused of being dimview so you tell me.
And your still saying yahoo is dead? 3 years since fees in january and still going strong.
The truth hurt a little there icyrock?
Easy bids. We dont want to see you change your name again now do we?
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 11:55:44 AM new
I know that Dim goes on vacation a lot. I've come to understand the rationale of the sellers at BV and BV still loves to goad the BV cheer squard.
I don't think a few hundred thousand listings at Yahoo should be considered going strong. It could be considered somewhat robust when compared to the lo/no traffic sites but compared to ebay Yahoo is a cadaver.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 29, 2003 04:19:30 PM new
What a lousy conclusion.
I don't think a few hundred thousand listings at Yahoo should be considered going strong.
Again bids is spewing. It is not how many listings, but what the listings are. Yes, before listing fees, they had over 2 million listings. The trouble was over 90% of the was crap like the items you list at bidville and ioffer. Now those are gone and the quality items are still there alone with quality buyers. A site that has millions of items, but don't sell is not a strong site. Sales mean revenue. With revenue, the site will become stronger. That is why bidville and ioffer will never become strong. No Sales = weak sites. Yahoo has sales. That is why it is still around and now making improvements.
So Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 05:55:33 PM new
There are very few bidders at Yahoo and a lot of overpriced crap. Compared to BV it looks busy but compared to ebay it's a graveyard.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 29, 2003 05:57:31 PM new
On bidville and other 3rd tier sites the items are "warehoused" for long periods of time. Yahoo's inventory is always changing thanks to the listing fee. There is always fresh inventory being listed.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 08:02:08 PM new
I think most of Yahoo's inventory is warehoused. For 30 cents you can get 60 days of Froogle-indexed listings compared to a mere 7 days on ebay. On the semi-frequent FLDs the same old FLD listings are trotted out. The few bidders get sick of the same old listings.
Many ebay sellers place their ebay non-sells on Yahoo and jack up the price. That creates a non-competitive with ebay site. The low listing fee allows that to happen.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 29, 2003 09:33:39 PM new
Compared to BV it looks busy but compared to ebay it's a graveyard.
Dah. First thing you have written that makes sense. This is why Yahoo is the 2nd tier site and Bidville and ioffer is a very distant third tier site.
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