snowyegret
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:30:19 PM new
The airlines better update their hazmat exposure SOPs pronto. So the passengers are sitting there increasing their exposure to a possible biologic agent. Oy!
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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breinhold
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:31:05 PM new
I have to say that at this point anything that happens is one of two
things..plans that were in place from the start or an opportunist nut
cashing in on a bad situation.
retaliation is not an option for the enemy. the person who starts a war is
not in a retaliation position ,we are.
if the anthrax cases ARE related to the war we are in, it would have
happened no matter what move we make.
but I am curious why this is happening to news people. it cant be for
coverage? it would get the same or more coverage no matter where it
happened. why the press?
keep Oklahoma in mind, there are plenty of insane radicals here. I would
rather it be our enemy in the middle east doing this...at least we have a
target.
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:32:35 PM new
Shosh, I am not that far away from you (but I dont know what I could do...would take me about 4 hours to get to you if I headed your way..but offer is open). krs, or plsmith if I remember correctly, arent far from you either. The rest of the posters may be in other states, but we are here with you...you arent alone, ok?
[ edited by Hepburn on Oct 13, 2001 05:33 PM ]
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dman3
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:36:46 PM new
actually if airports were holding tight to even the little new security that was put in place this type of thing shouldn't be happening ..
its not just about people and baggage passing through detectors but about people them selves being on High alert for unusual activity and what not..
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shoshanah
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:38:19 PM new
I believe now, that this is going to be a war aimed at demoralizing the people of America, which will paralize the economy and eventually cause the greatest economic (and mental) depression we have ever experience. One never gets accustomed to looking over one's shoulder. Fear is the most debilitating illness!
Hepburn...I am OK...Thank you for your concern...It's just that I feel that my heart is breaking...My Daughter should be returning later tonight. Can't wait to call! I wonder if she and her husband even KNOW that there was a "powder scare" so close to them, in Pleasanton!
Gosh Shosh
Moi
[ edited by shoshanah on Oct 13, 2001 05:42 PM ]
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:39:01 PM new
If the airplane left chicago, where was it headed? And another question...does the air conditioning vents pour into the atmosphere? What if someone were to put stuff in it, would it stay in the plane, or would it come out and trickle on down here to earth?
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spazmodeus
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:41:07 PM new
Tigress said she wishes she had cable, but in this case it wouldn't make a difference.
There's NO word whatsoever of the San Jose incident on CNN, nor any other TV news source I can find. Ditto for the United flight at Dulles. If it weren't for the word of mouth here, I wouldn't know anything about it.
It strikes me as very strange.
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toke
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:41:32 PM new
The lord high whosit of the Taliban released a video today, advising Muslims to stay off airplanes, among other things. Wish I'd paid more attention. It was on CNN, who refused to air it...only gave a synopsis.
{{{{Shosh}}}}
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:42:08 PM new
If you feel like talking on the phone, email me with your phone number and I can call you if you like. If not, thats ok too. I aint going anywhere...Ill be right here, along with everyone else.
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deliteful
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:42:15 PM new
shoshanah,
I've gone from shocked, to hurt, to scared, to now I'm just mad.
I'm sorry you are alone right now in real life, but you are not alone in the world. Lots of posters here to sit with you tonight. 
Jess
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spazmodeus
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:43:41 PM new
This incident should help allay the public fear of flying with Middle Eastern people aboard.
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:44:19 PM new
I just checked in search for San Jose news...no word there either.
Shosh, I know you and krs are friends...maybe he knows something more? Do you have his email?
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toke
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:44:20 PM new
Spaz...
Fox had it...about a half hour ago. They didn't mention that it was a ME man, though. Sounds like some serious censoring happening around here. We turned off the TV, but I can well believe they were told to cut the story. 
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packer
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:46:36 PM new
spaz,
Don't you think this is one of those times that they want to keep this as hush, hush as possible.
There would be sure caous at the airports if this gets out to much.
Here Bush is urging everyone to get back on a plane.....HA....When this does hit the news god help the airlines!
packer
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spazmodeus
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:47:11 PM new
toke,
He warned Muslims in America not to fly on airplanes or live in high buildings.
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:47:25 PM new
The only thing I see on Fox news is sports. Nothing on CNN still. Maybe no news is good news. (Why dont I believe that?)
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saabsister
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:47:45 PM new
Shosh, I think you're right that this will be an attempt to demoralize everyone here. How long can our federal, state, and local governments keep up the overtime - particularly fire and police. And the hospitals and labs are using up valuable resources and time treating many cases which will prove not to test positive for anthrax - but who wants to take the chance and be mistaken. Soon no one will trust the mail. At a family celebration today, my brother-in-law said a fellow computer geek friend of his said that the terrorists had the ability to bring this country to its knees and he said he had to agree. This is not a guy given to making flippant statements. He's worked in a variety of settings and is never given to overstatement. It's scary. We're all in it together.
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shoshanah
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:49:04 PM new
Toke and Jess: Thank you so much. I feel so dumb; but I believe it is the accumulations of one thing on top of another. And, to top it all, I have been in terrivble pain since last week: I believe something has gone wrong with one of my back fusions; could not even drive to Kaiser until two days ago! So, I am going to take another Vicodin, so I can sit up a little longer at the computer.
I think the pain is making me more emotional...Who would have guessed that shosh would turn into a whimp in her advanced years
But never mind me! The poor people on the plane!!!!!the poor people of America!
Gosh Shosh
Moi
[ edited by shoshanah on Oct 13, 2001 05:53 PM ]
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spazmodeus
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:50:44 PM new
No news is good news? ROFL.
This is a major story. If as reported above, it should be all over every channel at the moment.
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:51:56 PM new
Shosh, you are entitled to be emotional. So...let 'er rip (but carefully...dont make yourself hurt any worse than you already are).
Vicodin will do it, yep. And dont worry...we wont spell check ya when they kick in
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breinhold
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:51:59 PM new
shosh I feel very bad for you and hope you are alright. please do not let them win. at this point we are terrorizing ourselves with fear and we cannot let this happen. you have every right to feel the way you do but don't let them get the best of you. we are America and we stand tall. we will crush the enemy. your friends on this thread prove what America is about. you are not alone and you stand under the strongest flag in the world. you are not alone!
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:54:03 PM new
Spaz, thats what Im saying. Maybe it was just a nut with talcum powder. lets just hope that is the case and that is why it isnt plastered all over california yet.
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shoshanah
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:58:28 PM new
Spaz...You are right! What in the world! I wonder if the media has been asked to down-play this, so as to minimize the panic...?
At least, when my family and I fled and hid from the Gestapo, we knew what we were running from...
This is so totally different!
Gosh Shosh
Moi
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breinhold
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posted on October 13, 2001 05:59:47 PM new
on a lighter note: posted earlier:He warned Muslims in America not to fly on airplanes .........sounds good to me!! that helps us a lot!!
and: earlier this week the taliban stated americans only care about living and they would fight to the death......this is exactly the way i want it to play out ....they die we live.thank you taliban great ideas!!
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dman3
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posted on October 13, 2001 06:01:11 PM new
THe terrorist don't have the abilty to do anything inless in your mind you allow them too..
They also can't demoralize inless they are allowed to, How is it that 19 Terrorist cowards could highjack 4 planes kill nearly 6000 and cause just a little fear, yet one actual death from a mold spore and suddenly all say the country is doomed What is it your saying that one lost life was more valuable then all the others ?!?!?!?!
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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plsmith
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posted on October 13, 2001 06:04:47 PM new
An FBI spokesman is on my local news right now (KGO, Shosh) and he is saying that the "substance" appears to be nothing more than confetti that spilled out of a greeeting card. He is saying this does not appear to be terrorist-related at all. Meanwhile, the poor people were trapped on the plane for quite some time, and even the FBI guy acknowledged that they were livid...
edited to add: Well, KGO has bumped back to a college football game, but this *will* be on our local news throughout the evening, I'd imagine.
[ edited by plsmith on Oct 13, 2001 06:06 PM ]
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shoshanah
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posted on October 13, 2001 06:06:36 PM new
I am tuned to Channel 11, as I do not have cable TV. Supposedly, Al Kaida issued a statement earlier today warning to stay away from [/b]planes[/b] today as more attacks are coming.
All 80 people are still in the plane....
Apparently, a passenger reported to (?)...that a man had just dumped the powed into the air vents.
The Airport is saying they do not believe it is terrorist-related....Yeah! Sure!....
Now, they are saying they are confident that only CONFETI fell out of the envelope?????
Gosh Shosh
Moi
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jt-2007
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posted on October 13, 2001 06:06:38 PM new
I read a article several days back about a middle eastern high school student in NY who days before Sept. 11 had a dispute whith some American students and TOLD them the towers would be hit. It was being looked into and I have not heard anything since.
I have the article but the link locks up my computer now so I don't think AW will allow me to post it without the link.
Was this rumor? Has it been in the news?
The article says that his father became infuriated and left the country but the student is back in school. It also mentioned that middle easterners did not go to work at the WTC on Sept. 11. This makes me wonder, how wide spread is the knowledge of attacks prior to their occurance among that community?
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Hepburn
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posted on October 13, 2001 06:06:45 PM new
Thank you plsmith!
I gotta go start dinner....but Ill BBL.
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packer
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posted on October 13, 2001 06:07:51 PM new
Oh come on..confetti?
For crying out loud how hard is it to distinguish birthday confetti from powder.
Look..they haven't held those people on board for 2+ hours over CONFETTI!
Gheeeeeesssssss!
packer
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