plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 09:08:23 PM new
Gravid, I'm gonna hold out for the untold part of the story -- where you once-upon-a-time kicked some a$$ and it now supports your point...
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bunnicula
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posted on October 14, 2001 09:31:37 PM new
Gravid: governments in general do not trust their populaces. Ours quickly followed suit once it was established. Power and the fear of losing it is the issue.
plsmith: many people aren't aware that that song dates back to the actual battle of New Orleans.
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 09:36:24 PM new
Bunnicula, many of us are glad we haven't lived so long...
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bunnicula
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posted on October 14, 2001 09:46:18 PM new
And here most people say I don't look anywhere near my age...
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 10:01:48 PM new
hahaha, Bunnicula, if I haven't told ya lately, you make me smile 
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jt-2007
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posted on October 14, 2001 10:53:48 PM new
Which reminds me, I have the SCOOP on the black helicopters now.
A friend of a friend of someone we know who lives in the woods planted a MJ plant. I was told it was about the size of a small Christmas tree and was WAY back yonder in the boonies behind his house.
So he was sitting in his house the other day when a black unmarked helicopter hovered real low over his roof. He walked out on the porch to see what was amiss when suddenly a guy in combat gear with a machine gun dropped off a ladder right in front of him. Then comando said, "Are you responsible for that plant?" They guy said, "yes". And the comando said, "Ok, climb." And he did...and now he is gone.
About a year ago they were hovering over us everyday so low I would think that they landed in the field. But we were not doing anything wrong. Now they don't come anymore. Was really starting to tick me off too.
Story is not intended to sway this thread, just reminded me.
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 10:59:49 PM new
hahaha, Terri, if I haven't told ya lately, you make me smile, too -- in fact, you often make me laugh out loud 
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bunnicula
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posted on October 14, 2001 11:24:43 PM new
Gosh, are you fickle!
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 11:28:58 PM new
Not at all! I have a broad mind -- more of the unintentionally hilarious gets through...
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gravid
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posted on October 15, 2001 03:39:37 AM new
When you kick some butt it is always to support your cause at the time. Hoping that anyone will remember later seems to be futile or the US would not have to keep doing it so often.
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krs
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posted on October 15, 2001 04:21:02 AM new
Gravid,
There's a consolation in things of enduring beauty, eh?
[ edited by krs on Oct 15, 2001 08:22 PM ]
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gravid
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posted on October 15, 2001 05:07:15 AM new
That is pretty. Clean too. South Bend right? And nice tool post also.
Here is a little toy I am just getting ready to put bigger servo motors on - the table is 13.5 x 4 inches.
Cute little collets - 1/8" emd mill in one.
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krs
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posted on October 15, 2001 05:38:00 AM new
There was a machine of a similar design to that one listed a few weeks ago. Was it yours?
CNC is, of course, a fascination to me, and it's completely amazing to watch it at work. I don't think that there's anything in the world so capable of making chips in short order than one of the desktop CNC mills available.
Yes, it's SB, 1969 and in near perfect condition with taper and 5C collet capability to 1 1/16". My best measurement of spindle runout is .00005"--they don't make things like that in China. As pictured it's my setup for rifle chambering. I do it through the head using the spider shown and can get indicated on a point 2" into a bore to .0001-.0002". I've been trying to get axial alignment at the point of bullet entry to rifling and also at bullet exit. Finding a place, even in the best bores available, that can give that is difficult setup because I've got to make individual taper stopped rods for each end and for each barrel. The bores are not drilled straight and cross over center more than once in relatively short span--almost like a sine wave.
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gravid
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posted on October 15, 2001 06:15:29 AM new
No I have had this for about a year. Someone threw it away where I keep a rented temp. controlled room and I picked it up from beside the dumpster along with an engraving machine. I have made it work but the servo motors stall too easy at the kind of feed rates I want to run. I am also getting some software that will allow me to scan a graphic into the computer and tell it how much z axis movement I want over the grey scale range of the graphic and it will write an engraving program to cut the imaige in 3D. I have some wooden boxes with tops being made for me and I am going to deep relief carve the tops with designs like sea shells and oak leaves with acorns to sell.
I would think that if you are aligned on the bore right at the end of the chamber then if it wiggles back and forth further on well then the bullet is already engraved into the rifling and it will just follow it like a train on a track. I usually reload so that if I extract an unfired round
there are marks all the way around where the rifling started to cut into the copper.
I would love to make a rifle barrel with flanges on both ends and enclose it in a stout tube and stretch it under tension so that the harmonic whip was surpressed. I have seen that done with Thompson contender barrels in Precision Shooting Magazine and it reduced the group size a lot. I would like to see what happens if you would pour a low melting point (180°F) alloy in the space between the outer tube and the barrel after tensioning it. You could still service it easy by melting it out. One of those things I will probably never get around to.
[ edited by gravid on Oct 15, 2001 06:21 AM ]
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Meya
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posted on October 15, 2001 06:21:44 AM new
You guys are SO cute when you're being clever.
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gravid
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posted on October 15, 2001 06:23:27 AM new
It's guys like us that make all the toys everyone enjoys. You play with them but we have more fun making them.
Gotta go to FedEx - later all.
[ edited by gravid on Oct 15, 2001 06:32 AM ]
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krs
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posted on October 15, 2001 06:35:26 AM new
Harmonics are the issue du jour. In unlimited class benchrest anything goes and the current experimenatation is in using epoxies in various configurations to do what you describe, or try to. Some work is going to stepped barrels ala the Mauser miltary designs of the turn of the century but I don't think that it'll gain anything, There's a perception that it was done for accuracy but I'm sure that it was only for weight savings. I've been cutting grooves at intervals to see how they might effect the harmonic form but I'm not willing to use new blanks for that as once done it's sorta' unrecoverable.
The reasoning for axial alignment from bolt face through muzzle is that even though the bullet is engaged until exit it may still exit off it's original line. Since the crown forms a 'T' to the exit line and the combustion pressure is exerted until exit anything off line would be akin to using a barrel which would shoot around corners, to exaggerate the imagery for clarity.
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plsmith
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posted on October 15, 2001 01:58:38 PM new
heh, it's the guy version of The Two Fat Ladies...
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gravid
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posted on October 15, 2001 02:13:46 PM new
I have no idea what you mean.
If it is worth the time to enlighten high density me go ahead..... What do fat ladies do with each other?
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plsmith
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posted on October 15, 2001 02:18:00 PM new
Here ya go, Gravid:
http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9803/29/two.fat.ladies/
Heck, I know what a lathe is. You guys ought to channel-surf more often... 
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gravid
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posted on October 15, 2001 04:41:15 PM new
Yes! That's great - I saw them stuffing Red Fatty Meat in a pie. The food police are swooning.
Never eat anywhere that has a skinny cook!
I am glad you know what a lath is. I had a young fellow the other day would only call it a machining center. I played stupid and pretended I didn't know what he meant. It seemed so put on.
Most people don't know where their goods come from. I made some gears for a shop last summer and when the truck driver saw what they were he said "I didn't know you could make those I thought you had to ORDER them."
And the place you order them from????
Gets them from heaven like manna I suppose.
[ edited by gravid on Oct 15, 2001 04:42 PM ]
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plsmith
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posted on October 15, 2001 04:46:37 PM new
Gravid, anyone -- man or woman -- who can create (mill, manufacture, machine -- just to name a few "m" words) with their hands has my enduring respect. Really.
Glad you enjoyed the Fat Ladies. I used to watch their show and howl at the swill they'd prepare
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