posted on June 13, 2002 04:52:52 AM new
KatyD, here's an article from today's Washington Post that details how some of these cases were handled years ago.
posted on June 13, 2002 06:39:33 AM new
Apparently, some believe that Catholics are perfect and none of this REALLY happened simply because Priests are Catholic. It was only about the money, it never happened, chant the mantra, chant the mantra. Children were not abused and if they were, they were not because they were Catholics. Or try to pull it was God's will.
There are only 10 types of people in the world
Those who understand binary and those who don't
posted on June 13, 2002 07:17:34 AM new
As far as I can tell the Church is not trying to make any statement that these crimes did not happen.
In the overall history of the Church it is a minor hiccop compared to it's other misdeeds.
Most people are generous enough to let it go and just want a statement that things will be handled different in the future - and even that seems to be too much to ask of these bishops.
Perhaps they should just do like they did in the past with all the heathen rites they adapted - call it Christian and adopt it as their own. If they upfront demand the right to bugger the faithful's little boys I am sure there will be enough that will supply them willingly. After all when they castrated the kids to make Soprano singers of them there was no shortage. It was an honor.
posted on June 13, 2002 08:38:37 AM new
I've tried all morning to pull up the Fox News interview that Bill O'Reilly [himself a Catholic] had last night with a priest...maybe he was a bishop. [I want to get busy listing...but I will keep trying to find it. And when I do I'll post it.]
KatyD - This gentlemans statements came from love and concern about what has happened in the church. He shared the changes he felt needed to be brought about, to begin the healing process. He shared he was of the opinion that there needed to be zero tolerance in these cases.
There is a meeting today where the leadership of the Catholic faith will join together to discuss these issues and how best the church can go about making needed changes.
To me, he [the guest speaker] really appeared to be honest while offering his suggestions as to how best to handle this situation. I wish I had words to describe how much respect I had for him and his opinions after hearing him speak. His words were filled with love and compassion for both sides.
posted on June 13, 2002 10:29:53 AM new
I believe that all suspects should be turned over to the authorities. They should be defrocked until such time as the charges are brought to conviction or dismissed. For the Catholic Church to treat this any differently than lay persons is sinful, literally and figuratively.
posted on June 13, 2002 09:18:21 PM new
YeH I REMEMBER MY PARENTS DRagging to their Christian catholic church,
the nuns have alays made me thankful, to the writer of Dune for the Bene gesserit sisterhood.
bunch of defrocked marxist thugs willing to use threat of enternal dammnation to subjugate.
puffed up know it alls During Vietnam I thought let me get this right this son a bit ch does not have a job does not have sex with women does not have to worry about the draft and runs around in druidic costume or skirts poring over the raving of some drunken monk and he is gonna tell me what life is all about ?
So one day this priest has a special on confessions and he has em lined up way out there but he needs to go to the john. so he grabs the janitor and tells him the penalites are right next to a list of the sins. well the janitor does ok for a while but then the priest is still gone and in walks a hooker who says she perfromed (appeasing censor here) an act of clintonesque gratification. The janitor is now frantic for the crime is not on the list in desperation he sees and alter boy and says to him Hey hat does father tom give for a Bl-- J-B, and the alter boy says 2 snickers bars.
posted on June 14, 2002 12:07:53 PM new
KatyD, I am not a psychiatrist to understand a direct connection between Celibacy and Child Molestation, but certainly, an indirect one does exist. Simply put, anytime that you suppress any natural urge; such as, the sex drive, then it always makes its own way out through another door, that is, by an alternate route and that means Perversion. Celibacy leads to perveerted sexual behavior. Therefore, unnatural Celibacy making the need for natural sex take a different route can cause homosexual behavior or Child Molestation or S&M or other non-straightforward method of sexual release. When the person practicing Celebacy has enough discipline to NOT act out his perverions, it still manages to manifest itself through other behaviors. And KatyD, there is quite a lot of known clinical behavior of this problem.
posted on June 14, 2002 05:07:11 PM new
Well, the Bishops finally adopted a resolution. Child molestation is A-Ok with them until you are caught TWICE!
There are only 10 types of people in the world
Those who understand binary and those who don't
posted on June 14, 2002 05:27:17 PM new"Well, the Bishops finally adopted a resolution. Child molestation is A-Ok with them until you are caught TWICE!"
So, it's OK to bugger little boys until you get caught, just because you are a priest?
I think that this issue spells out the End for the Catholic Church in North America, where there is a Zero Tolerance for Child Molestation.
My question, though, is about the Law professionals in the past who let the Catholic Church handle this internally, rather than publically prosecute the offenders. I'll bet that a lot of that will change now.
