posted on February 13, 2003 05:31:04 PM newI still get the feeling it's just because he's a republican
finally understanding it Colin
Have you ever heard his speeches?
Yes. sure he's fumbled words. (other Presidents have also EVEN Democratic ones ) But I think he has done a lot of fine speeches, even with fumbling words
btw, his PR people INSISTED he wear contacts, he is supposed to wear glasses, and he can't get used to them (read this a long time ago) thats what you all are seeing when you say he is squinting, or whatever..
Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
posted on February 13, 2003 06:03:42 PM new
bear, I didn't put you on the list, because I'm not sure about you; you stand and even fought declaring patriotism, but unlike
colin, 1" & Linda, you have not in effect expressed "advance USA & screw the rest."
We can all ‘call’ ourselves a patriot but there are good , fair and poor patriots: can we agree on that?
We don’t have to say that we wish to advance ourselves only.
To wish to advance oneself; to the detriment of others even when those others are ‘down trodden’ already, by ones own standards, (even if you argue that their status is brought by their ‘own hand’), is antisocial, and immoral.
20 or 30 THOUSAND NUKES (at least) in the world,
Morality has some catching up to do. And quick but I fear that old habits die hard.
May your God be with you.
posted on February 13, 2003 06:54:06 PM new
What would your forefathers do today if they where faced with the same problem? I know what sparta would do.
posted on February 13, 2003 07:13:11 PM new
Thank you ebayauction go for your honest declaration.
You are not the only patriot to express this sentiment.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/2001/10/12/FFXA3ICGNSC.html
General Douglas MacArthur
"Though the American people were animated by a warm friendship for Australia, their purpose in building up forces in the Commonwealth was not so much from an interest in Australia but rather from its utility as a base from which to hit Japan ... this course of military action would probably be followed irrespective of the American relationship to the people who might be occupying Australia."
posted on February 13, 2003 10:05:16 PM newbunnicula, You must have a favorite President. Who might that be?
I guess my "favorite President would be Franklin Roosevelt. He pulled us back from the brink of utter ruin, gave hope to the populace, transformed our practically non-existant military into an overwhelming force in a remarkable short period of time, and laid the groundwork for us to become a superpower.
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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posted on February 13, 2003 10:32:41 PM newThe only thing I can find the US guilty of is being the brightest light in the history of human government, warts and all.
posted on February 13, 2003 11:44:34 PM new
>All the past Presidents have brought along their Henchmen.
Yes, but most were competant to hold that office. Clinton was a President who is also a Rhodes Scholar and Nobel Peace Prize winner. While he was in office, no matter how bad things got (not bad at ALL compared to the mes that we're in now), I ALWAYS felt that he was in charge of things. I never got the impression that he was not making the decisions.
Contrast that with not only Dubya, but Ronald Reagan. Ronnie had to step down from being President of the Screen Actor's Guild because of his disease. When the Republicans came to tap him on the shoulder, his disease was already progressing and the GOP knew all about it. That was fine with them. That's a BIG reason why they tapped him to become President. He wasn't in office very long before all Americans could see that he was mentally incompetant. And what happened there?
Let me remind you of those years: High Deficits, unauthorized millitary actions, US Government involvement in both drug running and selling drugs on the street (recall that G.W. Bush Sr was Vice President and had just fininished a stint as head of the CIA). I could go on and on and on and we all have on here. It was a terrible presidency and the nation did not want to be mean to a man who was sick through no fault of his own.
This one is sick through his own fault. His list of crimes againsat the people of the United States and the world is escalating by the day. He also is a puppet-ruler and the same nasties that ruled with the father are still here handling his mentally incompetant son.
Colin, I can see that you aren't big on history, otherwise you would be alarmed at this situation. I only hope that in time it becomes clear to you just how dangerous this is to a Free Democracy -- even ours. And so far, they've done terrible things to turn this away from a Free democracy. Do you relish living in astate fo fear from your neighbors turing you in for fun and having you or members of your family dissappear intot he night, never to be seen or heard from again? That is exactly the way that this group of handlers is moving things and they are far, far along in their quest for total and absolute power in America. A dictatorship. Are you with me?
I hope that helps you to understand why thins is wrong and those who voted for Bush knowing how incompetant he was but voted anyway have endangered this country beyond belief.
posted on February 14, 2003 03:17:01 AM new
I don't live in a state of fear. Funny how all the people I know don't live in a state of fear.
I don't see Darth Vader when I look at President Bush. I see a man with a lot on his shoulders. A man that's trying to do the right thing in a time of unprecedented troubles. I know it's a job I don't envy at the moment
bunnicula, I too have a great deal of respect for FDR. He had his warts too. As for Clinton, I think he was the smartest president we ever had.
Were at the brink of war because of the times, because we as the WORLD COMMUNITY have "turned the other cheek" for too long. This should have been taken care of many years ago.
You STAND CHARGED of ATROCITIES... Give me a break. Always blaming things on someone else aren't you austbound? BTW if the American forces didn't help out in W.W.II you would probably be writing this in Japanese.
posted on February 15, 2003 03:06:20 PM new
Colin “if the American forces didn't help out in W.W.II you would probably be writing this in Japanese.”
Many parasites exist in a symbiotic relationship.
America was rewarded for it’s efforts in WW.II,
Australia provided you with bases.
Don’t pretend that USA’s motivation was altruistic.
Colin, you also wrote “I too, expect every country to do what's best for themselves, so why do we need a United Nations? How can you expect a fair vote when self interests are involve?”
OH, I get it, so the US should be master of ceremonies, because only your leaders truly embrace ‘truth’ & ‘justice’.
Bush now calls the UN a ‘debating team’ in an obvious attempt to discredit them.
The leaders of the most powerful nation in the world (US), clearly, do not want to loose their dominant position.
“I don't see Darth Vader when I look at President Bush. “
I don’t see Bush as darth vader either ;
I see a war-like melodramatic self-righteous oil magnate, who is a poor liar, poor actor, and with a smug look on his face.
Colin “I don't live in a state of fear. Funny how all the people I know don't live in a state of fear.”
How are the sales of, ammunition, duct tape and plastic sheets going in your neighbourhood?????
That will give you a more accurate understanding of what concerns/fears are going through the heads of your locals,
than your ‘common sense’ analysis.
You may think my opinions extreme, but most of the world is increasingly becoming aware of the American leadership’s agenda and are largely anti-present-American-way.
The leader of your CLOSEST ally, Sharon of Israel, has now been found “GUILTY” of war crimes, 21 years after being minister of ‘defence’.
I wonder’ if Goldwyn’Myer will make an honest movie about that…NOT.
posted on February 15, 2003 03:29:13 PM new
I never said it wasn't altruistic but the results would have been the same as stated.
The UN is nothing more then a ‘debating team’ They have discredit themselves time and again. If they stood behind the declaration they already made this would have been over now.
"The leaders of the most powerful nation in the world [US), clearly, do not want to loose their dominant position."
I don't see that happening. It would be devastating to the World.
'I don't see Bush as darth vader either;
I see a warlike melodramatic self-righteous oil magnate, who is a poor liar, poor actor, and with a smug look on his face."
Your a bit bias.
"How are the sales of, ammunition, duct tape and plastic sheets going in your neighborhood?????"
"People in my area have enough ammo. Most of use duct tape on a daily basis. It's an important household product. I just hope there is enough duct tape to get the NASCAR guys through the Daytona 500 tomorrow. I used the plastic to cover some windows in the barn. It gets cold here. Been below zero for a few weeks.
I do think your opinions extreme, but respect you for them.
I believe your mistaking on the "most of the world" being against the American way. Your seeing a few. If you look at the bigger picture, you'll see there's most for then against. Were the ones that didn't go to the rally.
Don't ever think Israeli is our closes ally that's a major mistake. Israeli is for Israeli alone.
posted on February 16, 2003 02:17:56 PM new
Colin “Your a bit bias.” .
I’m a bit bias?
You are the one that has suggested that your interests in US precedes and displaces all others.
Also, doesn’t the US economy rely heavily on military production?
We all claim to ‘not wishing to see our neighbours stave’.
But who is willing to see their country eat less, in order to achieve that wish.
It seems, not you colin.
Israel may not be the USA’s ‘overt’ ally but Bush has done nothing more than give lip service when displaying opposition to them.
Didn’t they get their A-Bomb technology from USA a few decades ago?
Hollywood, your & our ‘teacher’ is dominated by Pro-Israeli and other Jewish influences, but you don’t see that (how blind can you be?). Many people all over the world see USA as a ‘little Israel’.
The US IS loosing it’s DOMINANT position in the world, and will only have a chance at maintaining it by becoming even MORE ‘heavy-handed’.
The no. of people who didn’t attend the rally is not an indication that they support the war.
In Adelaide S.AUST, consistent media reports attendances @ 100,000 out of a popplulation of approx. 1Mill.
I didn’t go.
posted on February 16, 2003 03:15:47 PM new
>I don't live in a state of fear. Funny how all the people I know don't live in a state of fear.
Not yet. And that's the point. But it will be SOON and you WILL BE living in a state of FEAR.
In the meantime, the rest of us are trying to prevent it. You can just sit back and relax and sneer along with your friends while we take care of business.
posted on February 16, 2003 07:53:13 PM new
austbounty -
You STAND CHARGED of ignorance!!
(Case dismissed, as the defendant is clearly innocent by reason of insanity.)
posted on February 16, 2003 07:53:14 PM new
austbounty -
You STAND CHARGED of ignorance!!
(Case dismissed, as the defendant is clearly innocent by reason of insanity.)
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posted on February 16, 2003 08:02:53 PM new
Borillar,
Me and my fearless friends will be the greeters at the intern camps. Give a wave on your way in.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
posted on February 16, 2003 08:02:58 PM new
Many of us do live in a state of fear. We fear that Bush will drag us into an unnecessary war. More, that he'll so royally piss off the rest of the world that we won't have a single friend left--or start them gunning for us for our belligerance. Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
posted on February 16, 2003 08:07:04 PM new
No, false fear is starting a war because of something that country "might" do in the future. If I held that POV, I
'd say we should start gunning for Germany immediately, given their track record this century. Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
) But I think he has done a lot of fine speeches, even with fumbling words 