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 Helenjw
 
posted on September 6, 2003 10:52:00 AM new

Helen, Pucker up you know where to plant those lips...

Oh and I am still waiting for that kiss you owe me... pants are down and I am bent over for ya...


I tend to forget that Twelvepole revels in negative attention since he can't qualify for anything else. This thread feeds his ego in a sick pathetic way.



 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on September 6, 2003 11:02:31 AM new
Twelvepole,


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Yeah you are so innocent Helen... seems like you forgot the reason I posted those...

At least mine weren't underhanded and sneaky... but guess that is the only way you can really do anything isn't it



AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on September 6, 2003 11:08:38 AM new


I'm surprised that you were able to figure it out.

Helen

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 6, 2003 11:11:40 AM new
{{{Helen}}}, thank-you for saying what you did. I feel 100% the same about you.




 
 mlecher
 
posted on September 6, 2003 11:27:27 AM new
Okay, 12-pole

You want the President to be repected? From now on it is PRESIDENT CLINTON, VICE-PRESIDENT GORE and SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON or THE HONORABLE HILLARY CLINTON if you like.

OR, you can just plain shut your pie-hole.

Put up or SHUT UP.

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 6, 2003 11:51:31 AM new
"Kraft you are one of the most disrespectful posters here... as is par for your postings..."

How am I disrespectful Twelve?

"Yes, it bugs me a little, when the Brits, the Canadains, and Aussies attack our leaders, system (yeah they have) when are not the ones that live and work here."

I understand what you mean Near, but my gut tells me that Bush is a wolf in sheep's clothing and I fear for the American people with this President. I apologize if my comments are out-of-line with what a good neighbour should be saying, but I can't help myself. The welfare of other countries depends on the health of the U.S., but I fear if these terrorist-based wars continue, the strain on your economy, health system and jobless rates, will continue. Would I be a better person if I just sat here, all happy about my life and country, and didn't give 2 hoots about what was happening to you?


 
 Fenix03
 
posted on September 6, 2003 12:02:17 PM new
Twelve - I do say that I find it funnt that you call for people to use proper titles when referring to political figures whom you support yet I on't think I have ever seen you show that same level of desired respect for those you do not support.

I do not see you refer to Former President Clinton, or Senator Clinton. In your recent post regarding the PBS debates I I saw no inclusion of the title Govenor when referring to Howard Dean.

It has become common in our culture to omit the titles whe referring to holders of political office. If you consider it to be disrespectful then you should begin the charges at home in your own posts before calling on others to do the same.
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 Twelvepole
 
posted on September 6, 2003 12:39:40 PM new
Howard Dean is no longer Governor, but I did try to keep it Rep K from Ohio...

Mlecher, if that is what it takes to make you happy... sure I can do that....

Former President Clinton, Former President Reagan, Former President Bush... Former President Carter... not a problem...

I am still curious who did that for you Helen...

Kraft... well what can I say...


Did you get all that...

For you Helen...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... [ edited by Twelvepole on Sep 6, 2003 12:47 PM ]
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 6, 2003 12:51:29 PM new
LoL!! I didn't think you would answer Twelve.


 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on September 6, 2003 01:00:17 PM new
I have no intention of ever answering anything for you kraft... you are just some Canadian busy body that doesn't even understand the workings of her own country and yet as the audacity to put down mine...

yeah...




AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 kiara
 
posted on September 6, 2003 01:26:15 PM new
Twelvepole, I'm just surprised you would target kraftdinner for attack. I don't see where she is at all deserving of such treatment.

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on September 6, 2003 02:08:13 PM new
Pardon me, twelve (using "pardon" to show a bit of respect) but it seems to me that the insults more often than not begin with you. We've all read your insults to gays, women, liberals, etc. Are you sure there isn't some neo-natzism happening here with you? Three years ago I didn't think President (there, does that make you happy?) Bush actually won the election and I still don't believe it today. He stole the election. To me that does not warrant respect. My parents taught me that respect is something you earn. Not something that is handed to you by virtue of title or anything else. IMO, he hasn't earned my respect. Simple.

On the other hand, Helen, Kraftdinner, Kiara, mlecher, LindaK have. I may not agree with most of what LindaK has to say (being a Bush supporter and all } but she says things sans name calling and insults. That I have a great deal of respect for.

Just my opinion, which if you don't like it, you can just ignore.

Cheryl
The next time you think you're so perfect, try walking on water.
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 6, 2003 02:10:46 PM new
Thank-you kiara.

Twelve, what brought all this about? I have NEVER put your country down. Please show me where I've done this.


 
 Helenjw
 
posted on September 6, 2003 02:14:13 PM new

Don't know why that surprises you, kiara. After all, he has attacked you and there was certainly no reason for that either.

He's just something to ignore.

Helen

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on September 6, 2003 03:32:32 PM new
As a previous poster said, "I will post whatever I want..." that is a two way street... and I am still not talking about respecting me...
But seeing how all the naysayers who haven't gotten a clue are women... that is understandable....




AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 kiara
 
posted on September 6, 2003 04:17:36 PM new
Because it is so powerful, the actions of the US can greatly affect other countries around it so of course everyone should have the right to say what they believe.

Twelvepole, even with all of your insults kraftdinner has always been one of the kindest posters to you and to everyone else.

Truly I believe that you have secret desires and fantasies to meet a beautiful, sexy and strong woman who will control you.

Unfortunately when you try to meet them with actions like this Pants are down and I am bent over... Pucker up it isn't working in RL. Nor will it work here. Women never did go for that line, no matter what age they are.


 
 davebraun
 
posted on September 6, 2003 04:22:41 PM new
Wait a minute Kiara I've used that very same line for years with much success.
Republican, the other white meat!
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on September 6, 2003 04:26:24 PM new
LOL Kiara!

Good one.



 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on September 6, 2003 04:51:59 PM new
Boy you get off this computer for a day, and miss all this?


The welfare of other countries depends on the health of the U.S., but I fear if these terrorist-based wars continue, the strain on your economy, health system and jobless rates, will continue.

With absolutely no disrespect Kraft, that is the crux of other countries continually putting down the U.S.

Bottom line is, Canada DOES DEPEND ON THE US, and has for a long time, as do other countries.

Your concern for the whole system of the U.S. is touching, but it would feel better if you could pitch in and pay my taxes this year... and property taxes, mortgage, it will all help the children and schools and people that don't have jobs, single mothers, fathers, those without medical insurance, those that need food etc etc etc. I'm just feeling really overburdened right now!





Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
 
 BEAR1949
 
posted on September 6, 2003 05:07:13 PM new
Well I see I'm late in getting in on this one.


As to respect & proper use of a name, HELEN I seem to remember when I 1st started posting here & called you HELLEN. Seems you had a #hit fit over the EXTRA L.


TO the point, all the heads of outher counrties, refer to our president as President Bush or Mister President.

The fact that you liberals choose not to refer to him in either way shows how low the democratic party has stooped
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on September 6, 2003 05:21:03 PM new

No, Bear...I never objected to two L's in my name. In fact, I sometimes sign my name with two L's...

Back it up sweetheart!


Hellen

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 6, 2003 05:37:29 PM new
Cheryl & kiara, thank-you.

Near, what other countries are putting down the U.S.? In what way? Also, I think you're assuming I have no invested interest in the U.S., which is wrong.


 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on September 6, 2003 06:20:31 PM new
Well I think Kiara said it.

The U.S actions affect other countries.

And thats why France, Germany, Russia AND Canada opted OUT of the coalition. Thats why the people over in Europe were burning flags. Liberal American celebrities going to these countries and PUTTING IT DOWN to a cheering crowd, and APOLOGIZING for their own President. They have no business, nor right to APOLOGIZE to a foriegn country, for the U.S. President. And that is just MHO.




Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
 
 davebraun
 
posted on September 6, 2003 06:26:30 PM new
They have every right. They do not speak for the administration but for like minded people here at home who feel it their duty to oppose this administration.
Republican, the other white meat!
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 6, 2003 06:55:10 PM new
Near, I see now that you also think that disagreeing with a current President is like blasphemy . The dissenters are against the Bush administration, not the American people.

Those countries refused to join the coalition because they didn't see the connection between al qaeda and Iraq, or the evidence of any hidden nuclear arsenals. Can you understand that Bush scares people/countries with this type of behavior? He has stated that "the war against terrorism will NEVER END". Doesn't that scare you? To this day, nothing has been found to justify his going to war (in my opinion), so these countries were right not to follow suit (in my opinion).


 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on September 6, 2003 07:00:50 PM new
Actually Kiara, my girlfriend is Phillipino and we have a very nice arrangement...
She stays home and keeps the house and I work... dinner is on the table when I get home, laundry is done, house is clean...

She doesn't go out at night without me... and she certainly doesn't have any male friends.

Tom Leykis has it right...


Well this has gone far enough... I for one am going to start out in a thread as respectful as I can be... if it disentgrates from there... so be it.

Lets see the liberals put up or shut up...


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 Fenix03
 
posted on September 6, 2003 07:01:57 PM new
I constantly see some of the more conservative posters on these boards omit the title President when referring to Bush and until it became still another opportunity too make broad based stereotyped insults no one actually gave a damn. It's almost scary the excuses people will use to get still another opportunity to insult people.
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 kraftdinner
 
posted on September 6, 2003 07:13:32 PM new
"... and she certainly doesn't have any male friends."

I'm afraid to ask why...






 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on September 6, 2003 07:18:31 PM new
Because I told her if she wants male friends, she can find a new boyfriend.... her choice.


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 kiara
 
posted on September 6, 2003 07:29:09 PM new
We had this discussion once before about the men that go "offshore" to choose a girlfriend that they can control.

There is a strong possibility that the relationship will not last. Many times the male in the relationship secretly desires a stronger woman as there is no "spice" in life when he lives with a doormat that he can wipe his feet on so readily. Unfortunately some tend to abuse these young girls and that's sad. It becomes a total "power" act of an insecure male.

True men confident with themselves usually try to seek out an equally confident female partner. He has no fear of his mate having other male friends as he is secure in the knowledge of his own masculinity. Both have respect for one another.

 
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