posted on October 31, 2003 06:48:13 AM new
"If the same tragedy happened in Texas would you still be so callous?"
If expecting people to be responsible for their actions is being callous, then the answer is yes. If one builds a house on the Texas Gulf Coast and doesn't have storm insurance; TOO BAD. To pull the fat out of the fire for these people invites more of the same.
posted on October 31, 2003 06:53:46 AM new
Well, I've got to get ready for the trick or treaters...spose I should tell the little bastards to go elsewhere?
I guess it's too difficult to defend socialist ideas. Bye, Helen.
Tex, It's a fundamental tenet of a democracy that our government is, of the people, for the people. Taking care of people who have suffered a catastrophic loss through no fault of their own is not limited to socialism.
It's simply a civilized practice.
Helen
Now, I'm off to buy candy...any further shots will be answered later.
posted on October 31, 2003 07:56:45 AM newTaking care of people who have suffered a catastrophic loss through no fault of their own is not limited to socialism. It's simply a civilized practice.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a person, or group of persons, deciding on their own to send money or other items to folks who have been struck by a great disaster. People do it all the time. Empathy in action. Great!
But to expect or demand the government to step in and do the same for every single person who suffers a catastrophic loss is not a good thing. In fact, it is crippling. People cease doing for themselves when they expect a constant sugar teat from the government. Welfare is a shining example of this.
Face it--all losses are catastrophic to the person involved. Let's see--if these folks get "taken care of" by the government, shouldn't that mean, then, that the owners of a house that burns down after being struck by lightning should get the same "care?" The families of those killed on 9-11 got compensation--so, shouldn't compensation be given to the family of someone killed in a drive-by shooting?
With this kind of thinking, where would it stop? I got a hangnail, darn it--I want compensation... Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
posted on October 31, 2003 08:14:58 AM new
Bunnicula, you summed it all up. People depend on the gov't way too much. Then #*!@ and moan.
Helen, I understand that ins. premiums have gone up... but that is the price of life, sure I can say, its not fair, but if you want to own a home, thats one of the huge prices you pay for home ownership. I'm not sure how they do things where you live, but the bank, home inspectors and all, work together, and its an absolute requirement that you have property insurance, unless you paid all cash for your home, I'm sure you can opt out of ins. But if you had that much, it really wouldn't matter about ins., you could replace house and contents on your own, if anything did happen
Also Helen, what the heck, are they starting to trick or treat this early? They better not come knocking at my door at 8:30 AM!! (I'll surely scare them!!! )
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posted on October 31, 2003 08:15:12 AM new
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NUTIN, ZIP, ZERO.
So Sue Me.
Your attitude and example on most issues show,
to take what the market will bear.
And that's the exact attitude that the chickenhawks can expect back.
I'm really in doubt as to whether US Regime is concerned about Australia AT ALL.
I'm glad to see that we are spreading our wings and trying to form relationships with others in our region, as we should be.
I think the only safe way for Australia to handle your extreme right regimes is to let them THINK that we are allies.
The Republicans in particular seem to have no concept of friendship or loyalty or patriotism, only old school ties.
They and you accuse over 1/2 of America of being Un-American--- What a Joke.
And you expect others to trust you, when you attempt to divide and conquer your own people.... HAAAAA!
Prepare for a greater PNAC (anti that is).
The likes of you have brought it on.
I don't know of any of my taxes going to Taleeban.
Or that we gave anthrax to Sadaam.
"You’re either with us or against us" Perhaps some of your politicians should be hanging themselves right now.
Is it true that 72% of serial murderers vote republican.
Not bad when you consider that only 30+% of Americans vote at all.
Prescott Bush had a bit of trouble back in the 1940s. While American soldiers were fighting the Nazis in WWII, a few of the companies Prescott managed were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act because they were selling fuel to and laundering money for Hitler's Nazis. http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html
It must be in the blood for some.
“Now George Bush, Sr. works for The Carlyle Group. They invest in defense companies, medical laboratories, and the telecommunications industry. The Carlyle Group is one of the government's biggest contractors. George Bush, Sr. and The Carlyle Group stand to make billions of dollars from the War on Terror. On September 11, The Carlyle Group was having a conference at the Ritz Carlton hotel in Washington, DC with members of the Bin Laden family, one of their investors.”
posted on October 31, 2003 11:39:07 AM new
How do you all feel about the victims of 911 being compensated for their losses? Or any plane disasters? Should they have all had life insurance and tough-beans to the rest?
posted on October 31, 2003 01:16:53 PM new
I opposed the payments. Is their loss any greater than the family of a clerk killed in a convenience store hold-up? Term life insurance is cheap.
How do you all feel about the victims of 911 being compensated for their losses?
Hmmmmm, well, IMO, it was terrorism, same to ME as an act of War, and the differnt levels of gov't ok'd that (compensating victims), as did Red Cross and other orginizations, so yes, they should be compensated. They were. ok
Plane disasters that were not terrorism, not sure, be more specific, was it negligence on the pilot, the mechanics, or the maker of that plane. The survivors or their families could have a claim against a party that may be accountable.
So, How do YOU feel about 911 victims being compensated, if you feel that was right, why?
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posted on October 31, 2003 05:15:48 PM newHow do you all feel about the victims of 911 being compensated for their losses? Or any plane disasters? Should they have all had life insurance and tough-beans to the rest?
I do feel sorry for them. But why should they get compensation?!? Why should they expect to get compenation? It is ridiculous the way a lot of people these days think/believe that they should be helped, paid, compensated for everything.
I had a tagline I used to use that seemed to drive some folks absolutely nuts: life is hard, and then you die. And that's the plain truth. Life IS hard. Things happen, some good, some bad, but you have to learn to live your life despite problems without expecting Big Brother to pad or cushion your way, protecting you from any & all harm. It is totally unrealistic to believe that there will be n o problems in your life. That's life--deal with it.
Tough beans? Maybe. Or just maybe that would the kindest thing to tell people so they don't whine & cry all thge time & expect to have the noses & butts wiped for them by the government.
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
