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 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 29, 2004 07:09:32 PM new
LOL, I just love you arm chair psycho-analysts... just because someone doesn't agree with your thinking then something must be wrong with them... LOL

Look in the mirror and see the wrong thinker... start there.





AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
 
 yeager
 
posted on April 29, 2004 07:24:16 PM new
Sorry,

It's still a free country. People are allowed to have a different view of things. That's why we vote on things. There are some that object to the views other than their own. They feel that no matter what, the view that they hold is superior to others, and that things should never change.

However if they were to look into a mirror, they would see nothing. They would be blinded by the cloud of ignorance that leads their life and way of thinking.


[b]True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 29, 2004 07:59:09 PM new
So incest, bestiality, child abuse should all be tolerated?

After all what harm is it doing you?

Polygamy? Nothing there to hurt you...
Domestic violence... doesn't directly affect you?

Funny how somethings are deemed not tolerable and some are... who are you to say?



AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
[ edited by Twelvepole on Apr 29, 2004 08:15 PM ]
 
 davebraun
 
posted on April 29, 2004 09:45:51 PM new
You're always good for a laugh twelve, all this time and still spewing your hatred for others.

Hint, the pain is within.



Friends don't let friends vote Republican!
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on April 29, 2004 09:59:48 PM new
Twelve, you're such a male bimbo. You dedicate much of your posting space to homosexual issues, so if you don't care, why do you bother so much? If you don't like them, then shut up and find something else to talk about.


 
 yeager
 
posted on April 30, 2004 01:11:49 AM new
Hi kraft,

I haven't been on the board for a while and didn't realize that 12 had such a strong interest in gay related issues.

Usually, when a person has such a strong hatred for gays, they are homophobic. This sometimes comes from an unsettled sexual identity. That is, I think that I might be gay and don't want to admit it. So, if I act anti-gay, then people will think that I am anti-gay. Another example is if a person says that he hates gambling, then others will think he would never go to a casino. It's pretty simple.

As for the arm chair psycho-analysts, there are only so many patterns to human behavior. Twelve demonstrates one of them. That's why I think that he demonstrates the absolute hatred against gays.

He says that he doesn't like beets, and he has every right not to have them. That doesn't affect anyone. But when a person tries to control another person just because he doesn't like that person, then that is wrong.





True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 30, 2004 02:01:11 AM new
If you don't like them, then shut up and find something else to talk about.

Because liberal dumbasses such as yourself would allow them to continue to stink up my society...

yeager you can think what you want...you're wrong, but you can think it...
like I said have to laugh at arm chair pshyco-analysts...LOL

Keeping gays from getting married is my cause...

I do believe I could live with the "don't ask, don't tell"... however inferior they happen to be.

so does that mean that all you liberals really want President Bush reelected? After all look at what all you only talk about?





AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
[ edited by Twelvepole on Apr 30, 2004 02:01 AM ]
 
 Reamond
 
posted on April 30, 2004 09:39:52 AM new
12 may be a latent homosexual.

12 have you ever had counciling for sexual identity issues ? It may help you.

Are you afraid of and hate homosexuals because deep down you are one ?

You seem to really have problems with the women here too.

You really aren't attracked to women are you ?

 
 logansdad
 
posted on April 30, 2004 11:06:19 AM new
I do believe I could live with the "don't ask, don't tell"... however inferior they happen to be

I hope you also think that their are "inferior soldiers" fighting in Iraq defending your freedom or do you believe only the straight soldiers are over in Iraq fighting for freedom while the gay soldiers are promoting their "agenda".


Impeach Bush

Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge.
Bigotry and hate will not be tolerated.
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on April 30, 2004 11:16:02 AM new
Oh brother! Now you claim your agenda is "preventing gays from marrying". What a laugh! Before the gay marriage issue came up, you were putting down gays, so what was your agenda then? You're so mixed up Twelve, you can't even remember what you posted! If you hate gays as much as you hate beets and skunks, where are all of the beets and skunk threads?

Twelve, your society is already stinking from people, such as yourself, that polute the gene pool by being born bad. If people here were give a choice to live next door to you or a gay person, guess who they'd choose?

Hi Yeager! It's nice to see you again! Yes, Twelve thinks he's fooling everyone here with his macho style posts about gays and how he'd like to kill them or beat them up. Isn't that manly?

 
 logansdad
 
posted on April 30, 2004 11:32:46 AM new
Keeping gays from getting married is my cause...


Twelve, are you going to go and relive your youth by going to gay bars hoping their will "see the light" and go straight.

I would pay to see what happens.....




Impeach Bush

Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge.
Bigotry and hate will not be tolerated.
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on April 30, 2004 11:44:42 AM new
Logan, you have to ask yourself, what would cause an adult "man" to spend most of his waking hours talking about how much he hates gays if there's no history? Reamond hit the nail on the head - that's why Twelve dislikes Reamond so much - he doesn't go for people that can figure him out.

 
 kiara
 
posted on April 30, 2004 11:56:10 AM new
Reminds me of this thread when I asked him the same question and got such a big smiley reaction. Krafty, I just read the first page of this one again and you still make me laugh.

http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=198112&id=198112

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on April 30, 2004 12:15:07 PM new
That's hilarious Kiara! That's the thread where Pat told Twelve he was the "nerve center" of Vendio... and he believed it!!! You, Helen and Pat had me in stitches! Twelve(Blockhead)Pole was in his glory that day with his emotionally charged posts. Ahahahaha!!!

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 30, 2004 06:32:35 PM new
Well you _unts are certainly on a roll tonight...

Yep that's it I am secretly a fkn queer... you figured me out you armchair psychos...


I think you will find I live amongst lots of people who see things my way kraft... not some dumbass liberal point of view...

Let'em all move to Canada you like'em so much...

Oh and logansdad I know very well there are queers in the military... I also know that some are thrown overboard and/or beaten... President CLinton made the "don't ask don't tell" policy... seems to be working...I can live with that...

When I was in they were discharged, no questions asked...



AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on April 30, 2004 08:57:00 PM new
Using the "C" word again Twelve? What made you snap (for the 500th time)? Could it be that this is yet another lonely Friday night for Mr. LonePole? Not able to snag Suzie Wong in your daily trips to the mall yet? Maybe this is a stretch, but could it be that women don't even need to talk to you to realize what a complete goof you are?

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on April 30, 2004 10:15:25 PM new
Homosexual leader vows to 'torture' opponents
Has plans to 'go in and terrify' officials who oppose 'gay' agenda


Posted: April 30, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The head of a national homosexual organization is vowing to politically "punish," "terrify" and "torture" activists who oppose his organization's agenda on "gay" rights – which he says would give him "endless satisfaction."



Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force in Washington, D.C., made the comments in yesterday's edition of Between the Lines, a Detroit area homosexual newsmagazine, the American Family Association of Michigan points out.



In addition to declaring his desire for retribution against "local legislators and leaders" who oppose the homosexual agenda, Foreman expressed a goal beyond securing legal same-sex marriage, that is gaining other means besides marriage by which homosexuals could access public and private financial benefits.



Foreman told the interviewer of his plans to go after his opponents.
"I'm … interested in going after, politically, local legislators and leaders that have launched these anti-gay initiatives," he explained. "'We beat you, now we're gonna go back and we're going to affirmatively punish you' – people who launch this stuff, so that they understand not only that they're not going to win, but that there are consequences to it.



"We would set up a [political action committee] and go in and terrify them with a credible challenge. ... So we go in, for a modest investment of money and torture these people, which would give me endless satisfaction. And the word would go out very quickly, 'You know what, this really isn't worth it.'"



Foreman was asked: "Is getting the right to marriage for same-sex couples something the Task Force is interested in?"


He responded: "We want full equality under the law, which, right now, means the freedom to marry. But we're also hopeful that we create different ways in which people can form relationships and families that don't come with all the baggage and the downsides of marriage.


One of the great things about where we're going is that we are creating new ways for people to relate, new ways for people to obtain rights and benefits."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38275



Re-elect President Bush!!


[ edited by Linda_K on Apr 30, 2004 10:17 PM ]
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on April 30, 2004 10:18:54 PM new
Sounds good to me!

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on April 30, 2004 10:21:55 PM new
4/29/2004: Amid Gay Marriages, Some Domestic Partner Benefits Get Axed (AP via Contra Costa Times)



Excerpt: "Now that it is about to be legal for same-sex couples to marry, some Massachusetts employers are eliminating domestic-partner benefits for gay workers, requiring them to say 'I do' if they want to keep their partners on their insurance."




Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on May 1, 2004 05:29:22 AM new
Wrong again kraft... and you need to stop wanting me, I have a backbone and balls... unlike anything you wake up with each morning...

I also don't date anyone over 40...


Oh and before this abohrrent marriage thing, I was and still am against abortion...


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
 
 yeager
 
posted on May 1, 2004 11:09:47 PM new
Twelve,

Do you think that anyone who has a different view other than yours is a liberal dumb-ass? I thought that US troops captured you Saddam!!!

I like Canadians. I live on the Michigan Ontario border and get a chance to interact with them all them time. They are really nice people. That is when they come to Michigan or when I go there. Of course I am a person who likes all people. This includes Blacks, Whites, Orientals, Jews, and Gays. Oh, I forgot women too!! The only real group that I HATE is organized hate groups. There are the SCUM of the earth.

As I said, I live on the Ontario border. I watch Canadian TV news all the time. In case you don't know, gay marriage is allowed in Ontario. I don't see any news articles about mothers wanted to marry their sons, or first cousins wanting to marry. Nor is there a outbreak of incest that you fear. These thoughts are just issues floating around in your mind, and not based on facts.


BTW,

logan, Reamond, and kraft. I have a friend that is a total gay. I once told him about my neighbor who is from NC and always talks about gays. He told me, "they are the biggest queers". LOL





True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on May 2, 2004 06:04:31 AM new
Let'em all move to canada and get married and stay there... works for me...

Yep those of us screaming the loudest are all fkn queers... that's the reason why we hate them so much... we are queers inside, yep that must be it... thanks for telling me...

Has nothing to do with erroding American values, against our taught religon, against our upbringing... it's because we are all fkn queers.... you guys are so smart...


Gay marriage is wrong and should not be allowed... Mass. is going to allow it and we shall see what happens...

I also hear some employers are considering of dropping benefits for Domestic partners because of this... get married if you want benefits.



I encourage all people to support a national amendment for marriage definition of only one man and one woman.

Here is a great site for our Cnadian friends...
http://www.chp.ca/

Remember Chris Kempling and what happend to him... you should be allowed to express your views also.





AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
[ edited by Twelvepole on May 2, 2004 08:24 AM ]
 
 yeager
 
posted on May 3, 2004 12:06:26 AM new
Twelve says,

"Has nothing to do with erroding American values, against our taught religon, against our upbringing... it's because we are all fkn queers.... you guys are so smart... "

What American values are erroding due to this? I don't see Canadian values erroding!

Whose taught religion are you talking about?

Don't you think that the church should clean up thier act FIRST, before they try to regulate others? i.e., getting rid of the pedophile child molesting priest??????

What is a gay person has no religious belief system? Then there would be no viable argument on that basis, right?

What upbringing are you specifically talking about?

Did you ever notice that the tone of your posts are bordering on violent?

I was watching Dr. Phil and he said, "we hate in others what we see in ourselves". I still think that I am correct on my thinking of you.



True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on May 3, 2004 05:05:07 AM new
LOL Dr. Phil....

If Dr. Phil says it, it must be true... OMG I am a Fkn Queer...
Yeah you certainly are the psycho...



You mean those GAY priests in the Catholic church?

Yeager, I don't care what you say or how you say it, you love gays that's your right, I also have the right to express my opinion, they are inferior and should never even be allowed to have "equal" rights... let alone be married. It is a deviant behavior no less deviant than child molesting or incest or bestiality... you or your ilk will NEVER make me change my mind on this subject.... you can question all you want...
Whether you like it or not over 60% of the country is against gay marriage... most would accept civil unions and I think that is where this is headed... if it turns out that some of these new stat constitions are overturned, then there will be a renewed drive for a National Amendment....

America was settled by people leaving their home country for more chance to be themselves... gays have several countries in the world that readily accept their views and life style, there is nothing wrong with them leaving this country to go there.


You can keep trying to call me queer if you want, that is a typical ploy by gays to get the opposition to be quiet... doesn't bother me, because I know it is not true and so do those that I do call friend....


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
 
 logansdad
 
posted on May 6, 2004 06:30:26 AM new
Here's the latest.....
Tweleve can now go to Mass later this month to get married if he chooses.

BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS -- With city and town clerks threatening rebellion, Gov. Mitt Romney has softened his position on residency requirements for same-sex couples seeking marriage licenses in Massachusetts.

Gay and lesbian couples who apply for marriage licenses starting May 17 will not be forced to provide "documentary evidence" that they live in Massachusetts, the governor's spokeswoman said Wednesday.

Instead, clerks will be allowed to accept a sworn affidavit affirming that a couple lives in the state or intends to do so.

The clarification followed a weekend training session for clerks, who must carry out rulings from the state's highest court that as of May 17 will make Massachusetts the first state to legalize same-sex marriage.

Many city and town clerks balked at the prospect of demanding that gays and lesbians show proof of residency.



Re-defeat Bush
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on May 6, 2004 06:35:45 AM new
So if two gays get married and lied about their residence and or intentions they will try to get it recogonized in another state...

Should be interesting, of course those people would be LIARS and considering how you on the left treat LIARS or suspected LIARS... then they shouldn't receive any support now should they...

Oh and Logansdad...calling me queer isn't going to change my stance... like I said before that ploy by real queers doesn't work on me.


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
 
 Reamond
 
posted on May 6, 2004 06:51:38 AM new
of course those people would be LIARS

There will certainly be one or more same sex couples that are residents of MA that will move from the state and demand recognition of their marriage. Any couple that uses fraud to marry won't be needed for a federal case, not to mention whoever takes the case will vet it completely to make sure that the marriage is a valid MA marriage.

 
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