NearTheSea
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:35:05 PM new
I won't give a link......google it, as they apparantly are showing the video, and I didn't/won't watch it. They beheaded an American civilian in retaliation to the Iraqi prisoner 'torture'.
The 26 year old didn't work for Halliburton either, he was reconstructing telecommunication equipment.
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:42:53 PM new
Yes, NearTheSea - This shows the type of people our soldiers have to deal with. 
The story was also on AP this morning - without the video.
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA6NKVE4UD.html
Re-elect President Bush!!
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NearTheSea
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:47:17 PM new
wow, it was MSNBC, I believe, and they had a WARNING, VERY GRAPHIC player there, and I would not, could not, WILL NOT watch it.
And the biggest news today still is the Iraqi prisoner torture????????
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skylite
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:49:25 PM new
only one american, how about almost 800 americans plus....and the many thousands of Iraqs, women men and chidren.....and the thousands of wounded....
you people just don't get it, and never will, this war was based on lies for corporate profit,
america does not belong there and never should of went,
BRING THE TROOPS BACK HOME NOW
this situation will cause WORLD WAR 3...and you warmongers are guilty for the demise of this planet.....you are criminals.............
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Reamond
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:50:29 PM new
And what, the Iraqis have to deal with angel American soldiers that torture, rape and murder ? Or has it now become an argument who was the biggest SOB first ? We invaded them, our CIA controls their press and their government, and we imprison and torture them. And they have no right to retaliate ?
We have no right to be in their country. They are doing the same thing we would do if we were invaded and occupied.
This is becoming just like the middle ages crusades.
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:53:02 PM new
Of course.....that's what the left wants the focus to be on....not that we're fighting to rid the world of these type of 'Geneva Convention', 'law abiding Iraq citizens'.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:57:24 PM new
I haven't seen it, but I wonder what value there is, and to who, to show a clip of this nature? Is it another ploy to justify the war?
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:57:51 PM new
Maybe those who want to show the terrorists they've won will vote for Nader....HE'S calling for our troops to come home....but kerry isn't.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 11, 2004 01:59:19 PM new
Who's laws, Linda? American laws?
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:02:33 PM new
On second thought....maybe Nader will ask Dean to be his VP....they're both for bring our troops home.
That ticket might just get some pretty serious votes.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:05:24 PM new
KD - You don't seem forcused today. Your first question could be answered by your clicking on my link.
Your second question is the same laws everyone is expressing such outrage about the US not following.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:05:45 PM new
What terrorists? Not everyone in Iraq is a terrorist whether they are fighting against the U.S. or not. If someone came to my house and tried to take over, I'd fight too. Doesn't mean I'm a terrorist. Now, everyone who fights against the U.S. will be called a terrorist. Don't you see how the word is overused?
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:08:37 PM new
KD - So now you're supporting the terrorists who slit this mans throat? So able to understand why they'd do what they do.
You don't see anything wrong with this picture?
Re-elect President Bush!!
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:10:01 PM new
You're right Linda, I posted without reading your article. I was unaware of this being al-qaeda related and thought it was a civilian attacking a civilian. I apologize. 
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Reamond
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:24:45 PM new
Of course.....that's what the left wants the focus to be on....not that we're fighting to rid the world of these type of 'Geneva Convention', 'law abiding Iraq citizens'.
Typical right wing self righteous tripe. We have no right to tell Iraqis how to live. They didn't attack us on 9-11 and had nothing to do with 9-11. The majority of Iraqis are Shiites, the same as the theocratic dictatorship in Iran. If they want a theocracy it is their right, and our CIA has no right to tell them diffferently.
We have no right to impose our laws and culture on them. We have no right to install a CIA backed government on them.
The retard Bush got us into a big mess in Iraq that has done absolutely NOTHING for the war on terror.
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kiara
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:25:34 PM new
It's very sad and things may get worse.
Too bad there was absolutely no planning for this war and the roads into Iraq weren't secured so all these terrorists were free to come into Iraq for over a year now and build up their networks. Bush should have stayed with the plan of hunting them in Afghanistan and this wouldn't have happened.
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NearTheSea
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:27:22 PM new
only one american, how about almost 800 americans plus....and the many thousands of Iraqs, women men and chidren.....and the thousands of wounded....
yeah skylite ONE American civilian who was helping the f u c k i n g Iraqi people in rebuilding and improving their country.. killed by the insurgents and TERRORISTS, and one whom they suspect was bin laden, s h i t
imgagine that, bin laden ordering the beheading?
In Helens words: Cram it skylite, and your f u c k e d up logic on the whole situation.
NO KRAFT, it was a terrorist group, and they believe that bin laden was within this group.
Unf*ckinbelievable, that there would be no outrage over this.
I say nuke the place. screw it
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kiara
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:33:14 PM new
NearTheSea, why blame all the Iraqi people because Bush invaded their country with no plan and then allowed all the terrorists to come in there?
Do you really believe all the innocent Iraqi people should be nuked now because of a mistake made over a year ago by the US president?
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Reamond
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:34:12 PM new
who was helping the f u c k i n g Iraqi people
He was helping himself and the corporations and that lying creep Challabi.
Are you so stupid to think that these corporations are setting up cooperatives that will be owned by the people of Iraq ?
And by the way - here is a little secret for you. Most "communication" engineers that do work in foreign countries also work for the CIA. How do you think we intercept all of those foreign cell phone calls ?
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:43:49 PM new
NearTheSea - Deep breath....breathe in and breathe out.
Yes, this is being used as for political gain. When those posters here call us on our actions, but only explain away the actions of terrorists who commit crimes against our own....all who read can see it very clearly.
This is what the voters are going to see from the left...and exactly why President Bush will be elected. The majority of American's ARE on our side.
Now....breath in again....and out again....
Re-elect President Bush!!
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:44:37 PM new
Gee Near, I put an apology in my post espcially for you to see because you said nobody ever apologizes, and you missed it! 
The fact that you would want to nuke the place tells me you're fed up too, Near. You have to admit, the war is so ridiculously unfocused that lives are being lost daily because of it. The U.S. can't pull out or they'll be accused of leaving another country, like Afghanistan in ruins. The only hope is to keep the "terrorism" aspect alive because there's no other way out.
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NearTheSea
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:47:49 PM new
reamond yeah I do believe there are American civilians helping to rebuild it for them, so call me stupid
Mr NSA not all communications are for the CIA
I didn't put American beheaded in Iraq, I should have
In the article, they took the head, and showed it to the camera, and screamed in Arabic some sh8t and God is Great
Do not reply to me
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Reamond
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:49:53 PM new
Bush has never had a majority on his side.
We're in the middle of a war on terrorism and Bush has a 46% approval rating.
Bush couldn't get re-elected if he forced Al Qaeda to re-build the WTC Towers and then executed them all.
Bush couldn't even beat Gore.
Bush is a military dewserter, a liar, and a religious zealot that is destroying our country and dragging us down in front of the world.
If Bush ran against Ossama bin Laden he might win. But the odds would be even.
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Bear1949
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:57:13 PM new
All the more reason to take the gloves off & let the Marines loose to do the jobs they were trained for.
"The Secret Service has announced it is doubling its protection for John Kerry. You can understand why — with two positions on every issue, he has twice as many people mad at him." —Jay Leno
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Helenjw
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posted on May 11, 2004 02:59:10 PM new
Nick Berg's father is angry with the U.S. government.
Michael Berg lashed out at the U.S. military and Bush administration, saying his son might still be alive had he not been detained by U.S. officials in Iraq without being charged and without access to a lawyer.
Nick Berg, a small telecommunications business owner, spoke to his parents on March 24 and told them he would return home on March 30. But Berg was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24. He was turned over to U.S. officials and detained for 13 days.
His father, Michael, said his son wasn't allowed to make phone calls or contact a lawyer.
FBI agents visited Berg's parents in West Chester on March 31 and told the family they were trying to confirm their son's identity. On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day Berg was released. He told his parents he hadn't been mistreated.
Michael Berg said he blamed the U.S. government for creating circumstances that led to his son's death. He said if his son hadn't been detained for so long, he might have been able to leave the country before the violence worsened.
"I think a lot of people are fed up with the lack of civil rights this thing has caused," he said. "I don't think this administration is committed to democracy."
[ edited by Helenjw on May 11, 2004 03:01 PM ]
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Reamond
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posted on May 11, 2004 03:06:06 PM new
let the Marines loose to do the jobs they were trained for.
The US Marines were never trained to murder innocent people. Nor were they trained to invade and occupy a country based on lies by the commander-in-chief and his VP. It didn't work in Vietnam and it won't work in Iraq.
The Marines should have been in Afghanistan hunting down who we were after in the first place. Instead the Marines are in a mess in Iraq that never should have happened.
It is time to leave Iraq's future to the people of Iraq, no matter what that future is, it is theirs to make, not ours.
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 03:10:11 PM new
KD The only hope is to keep the "terrorism" aspect alive because there's no other way out.
The terrorists are doing a GREAT job of keeping that aspect alive all by themselves, KD.
Forgetting all their attacks on our own interests/country. Looks like Spain, Italy and now Japan will 'feel the rath' of going against what they were told to do by AQ and binladen.
Some here appear to me to think this is a game. Others appear to me to not believe what their promises/their stated intentions are to us. Some sound like they're so fearful and if we just do what they tell us to do....then they'll no longer want attack us....and all will be well.
But the most ludicrous belief to me - is that having kerry as our president is going to change anything these terrorists have in store for our nation. Whether he does or doesn't bring our troops home. And he hasn't said he will.
It's not going to make one bit of difference to AQ and binladen's type.....they want us all....not just the republicans.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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Linda_K
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posted on May 11, 2004 03:13:09 PM new
I agree, bear. Cut 'em loose.
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Trying to forget reamond, that you're the one who called for nuking the whole place.........now you want to run?
Re-elect President Bush!!
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Reamond
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posted on May 11, 2004 03:14:58 PM new
If we had used our troops in Iraq in Afghanistan instead of Iraq, Al Qaeda would have been destroyed by now.
Kerry will make a big difference in the war on terror. He understands that the war will be one of intellegence operations and policing rather than invading and occupying countrires like Iraq.
One thing is certain, the retard Bush has got to go, he has made the situation more dangerous for the world and has spent our time and efforts in Iraq instead of the war on terror.
The terrorists out smarted Bush - he needs to go back to Texas.
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Reamond
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posted on May 11, 2004 03:29:12 PM new
Trying to forget reamond, that you're the one who called for nuking the whole place.........now you want to run?
Leaving a place you should not have been in in the first place is not running.
You can not effectively use force when you have a chicken sh!t liar in the White House.
You can not nuke a country when you can't trust the president.
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