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 NearTheSea
 
posted on June 9, 2004 03:14:14 PM new
Great posts yeager, Helen, Linda and all!

The other one was hitting almost 300 so I thought you started this one, because it was too long, so buuuump
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on June 9, 2004 04:07:11 PM new
I still have yet to see one concrete good thing come about allowing homosexuals get married...

They still will still spend just the same amount of money, they still will be going to their jobs... they still will be doing everthing as before...

Other than cause a schism in US society that will take years to heal if it ever does, they have done nothing to advance society one step...

Closets are a great thing and as long as they stayed there, most of us were willing to over look their deviant behavior...


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

Gay marriage is wrong!
 
 kiara
 
posted on June 9, 2004 04:20:54 PM new
Twelve, I think you're worried because you're in your 40's and haven't met a woman yet and got married. So with your reasoning and the way you talk I think you have a deep inner fear that you may be gay. It's the issue that you mostly focus on here so I can tell it's of major concern to you.

 
 logansdad
 
posted on June 9, 2004 04:27:13 PM new
12:I still have yet to see one concrete good thing come about allowing homosexuals get married...


And I have not heard one concrete thing as to why they should not be allowed to get married. The oposition has just presented ideas of why being gay is wrong, why the Church is against gay marriages and what might happen if gays are allowed to marry.


Re-defeat Bush
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June is Gay Pride Month
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Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
James A Belaco & Ralph C. Stayer
 
 yeager
 
posted on June 9, 2004 04:49:20 PM new
kiara,

I think that you hit the nail right on the head with your thoughts on 12. He is the MOST HOMOPHOBIC PERSON here. As I have said before, I have a gay friend and was talking to him about my so called straight neighbor. I told my friend, all my neighbor talks about is who is gay and who isn't. My friend said, "they are the biggest queers".

If you look at any research on the subject, you will find that most conclusions steer towards that thought. That is, the inner fear that they, (the homophobe) have MAJOR problems dealing with their own sexuality. Often times, they will say negative things about gays all the time. Their thinking is , if I act anti gay, then people will think I am anti gay.


True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.

[ edited by yeager on Jun 9, 2004 05:30 PM ]
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on June 9, 2004 06:29:41 PM new
LOL typical responses from those enabling the deviant behavior of homosexuality, can't back up any of your opinions with facts so you try to silence the person by name calling... which I take your comments kiara and yeager to be... it is funny how this always seems to come up... if you think I am homosexual, so be it... I could really care less.... people who really know me would be laughing quite hard at those comments....

I know that enabling homosexuals through marriage or anything else for that matter is wrong... oh so does that mean you're homosexual yeager due to the fact that you're the one who started all those threads while I was gone?


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

Gay marriage is wrong!
 
 kiara
 
posted on June 9, 2004 06:40:41 PM new
Hi yeager. I really don't think twelvepole is gay because he constantly seeks the attention of certain females here. But he has such caveman beliefs about women and doesn't understand them at all so is having difficulty having a relationship with any in real life. I don't think he understands this so he has a fear he may be gay.

Twelvepole, no name-calling from me at all. It's not very often that I call anyone names. I never said you were gay, just that you have an inner fear of being gay and that's why you focus on that subject so much. In fact you are the one on Vendio that has started the most threads about gays so how can one not notice this? I have a few more theories about you but I won't bother you with them at the moment.

 
 yeager
 
posted on June 9, 2004 08:35:26 PM new
Twelve,

I have opinions about many groups. This includes gays, blacks, and women. Just because a person promotes the rights of these groups, doesn't mean he or she is part of these groups. For your information, in 1919 when the NAACP was started, many of the founding members were WHITE. Even today, that group has WHITE members.

In my thinking, a society that disallows equal treatment to any of these groups is bigoted.


Bigotry is wrong!

AIN'T LIFE GRAND





True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
[ edited by yeager on Jun 9, 2004 08:36 PM ]
 
 parklane64
 
posted on June 10, 2004 09:03:32 AM new
Excuse me, yeager, but look at the definition of a bigot. You aren't?

Try being more tolerant.

____________________

You know...the best way to defeat a liberal is to let them speak.

[ edited by parklane64 on Jun 10, 2004 09:05 AM ]
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on June 10, 2004 10:25:49 AM new

Your concept of a bigot is wrong. Don't think that by calling yourself a bigot that you can get away with calling others here bigots.

Definition of Bigot.

Bigot is a pejorative term for a person who is obstinately devoted to their opinions, often engaging in a rude and intolerant manner when these are challenged. Forms of bigotry may have an related ideology, like racism and nationalism.

Bigotry is not "intolerance," but "unreasonable intolerance." Jews are intolerant of Nazis; that doesn't make them anti-Nazi bigots.

 
 logansdad
 
posted on June 10, 2004 12:02:14 PM new
Interesting article on Bush advancing the "gay agenda"

Bush Advances the "Gay" Agenda

Despite repeated statements about being a Christian and expressing the desire to restore honor to the White House during his 2000 presidential campaign, President George W. Bush is advancing the homosexual agenda as much as any other President in history.

http://www.familypolicy.net/features/bush-gays.shtml

Re-defeat Bush
------------------------------
June is Gay Pride Month
------------------------------
Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
James A Belaco & Ralph C. Stayer
 
 yeager
 
posted on June 10, 2004 12:27:37 PM new
parklane,

My motive is to INCLUDE EVERYONE and not to EXCLUDE any person of a group of people that I am not similar to. BIGOTS EXCLUDE! They identify themselves here everyday.


As I have said before, I live north of Detroit and go to there all the time, both day and night even thou I am white and Detroit is 80 percent black. Why? Because I don't live in fear like so many others do when it comes to viewing other people.



True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
 
 parklane64
 
posted on June 14, 2004 12:06:10 AM new
Right. Start riding a moped and wearing new basketball shoes while you do that. Gee, your posts read like you're a bigot. And you WANT to include twelve? Uhuh, suuuure.

I support gay marriage, let em be miserable like everybody else.

________________


You know...the best way to defeat a liberal is to let them speak.
 
 yeager
 
posted on June 14, 2004 02:39:55 AM new
Your post is unclear. Splain it to me Lucy.



True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.

[ edited by yeager on Jun 14, 2004 02:41 AM ]
 
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