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 BIGPEEPA
 
posted on July 6, 2004 07:19:18 AM new
I tip my hat to the next President of the United States of America, John Kerry. He made a GREAT CHOICE picking John Edwards.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on July 6, 2004 07:29:43 AM new
double post
[ edited by Helenjw on Jul 6, 2004 07:32 AM ]
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on July 6, 2004 07:31:19 AM new

A great choice!



About John Edwards
John Edwards speaks to the heart of America – hope and optimism. He is a lifelong champion for America’s families who has shown courage and conviction standing up for America’s values. In the Senate, he has a record of reaching across party lines and working to reform our intelligence services, combat bioterrorism, and keep our military strong. Together, we will campaign tirelessly across the country – fighting to build an America that is stronger at home and respected in the world.




 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on July 6, 2004 08:04:27 AM new
Yeah second choice...



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 profe51
 
posted on July 6, 2004 09:22:20 AM new
The Bushista webpage is making great to-do about Kerry not getting McCain. Cheap shots all. I was hoping for Edwards. Great choice.
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 neroter12
 
posted on July 6, 2004 09:24:11 AM new
I am kinda disappointed he didnt go with Gephart. I think he would have been better off with him. Typical man, went for the younger 'fresher' meat...But we'll see what Edwards brings to the table.

Helen, c'mon, can you work up a little more enthusiam for your party?!!

Linda, I'm sorry but I gotta take a pot-shot at bush. I heard him this am referring to Iraq...as.. "the neighborhood"?
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 ebayauctionguy
 
posted on July 6, 2004 10:37:05 AM new
Cheney is going to open a can of whup-ass on Edwards in the debate. Edwards may have to go back to chasing ambulances.




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 ebayauctionguy
 
posted on July 6, 2004 10:50:44 AM new
"In the Senate four years, and that is the full extent of public life - no international experience, no military experience - you can imagine what the advertising is going to be next year. When I came back from Vietnam in 1969, I don't know if John Edwards was out of diapers then." -John Kerry




"I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it."
 
 logansdad
 
posted on July 6, 2004 10:58:13 AM new
"In the Senate four years, and that is the full extent of public life - no international experience, no military experience - you can imagine what the advertising is going to be next year. When I came back from Vietnam in 1969, I don't know if John Edwards was out of diapers then." -John Kerry


But at least the Kerry will not have to keep an oxygen tank and a defibrillator next to him like Bush has to do with Cheney.
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 blairwitch
 
posted on July 6, 2004 11:12:02 AM new
Why would anyone think Kerry wanted McCain? No way would he put him on his ticket. McCain is damaged goods after they ruined him in 2000. I thought it would be gephardt, but it seems edwards was the choice from the start.

 
 Reamond
 
posted on July 6, 2004 11:12:15 AM new
Cheney is going to open a can of whup-ass on Edwards in the debate. Edwards may have to go back to chasing ambulances.



Edwards has integrity, which Cheney does not.

Cheney just had to show up at a NY Yankees game to get booed.

Edwards will demolish Cheney, and it won't be hard to do.

Prediction: Bush and Cheney will do one debate, move further down in the polls and refuse any further debates. Then start watching for Nixonesque dirty tricks.

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on July 6, 2004 11:32:35 AM new
I thought Cheney was still hiding in an undisclosed location, or was that Saddam?

 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 6, 2004 11:44:34 AM new
EAG - I hope that's not yout arguement against Edwards. especially when you consider that Bush had never been overseas before becoming president.

Candidates always trash each other during the intial phases - it is, unfortunately, a political way of life.

You should learn to love him EAG - otherwise you will be doomed to spending at least 4 years labeling yourself as unamerican for not supporting your current Pre s and VP.
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 profe51
 
posted on July 6, 2004 12:27:34 PM new
...otherwise you will be doomed to spending at least 4 years labeling yourself as unamerican for not supporting your current Pre s and VP.

point : fenix
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 Helenjw
 
posted on July 6, 2004 12:32:20 PM new
You should learn to love him EAG - otherwise you will be doomed to spending at least 4 years labeling yourself as unamerican for not supporting your current Pres and VP.

LOL! Good zinger, fenix.

You beat me to it, Profe.

 
 Reamond
 
posted on July 6, 2004 12:39:46 PM new
Point, match, game, fenix. Now use your cell phone to call somebody and then go get your trophy.

 
 BIGPEEPA
 
posted on July 6, 2004 01:11:08 PM new
EBAYAUCTIONGUY, Thirty years the U.S. lost what was it 50,000 guys in Vietnam and lost the war. Just like we are loosing guys and the war in Iraq. Pres. Johnson resigned over the Vietnam war remember that. Bush should also resign over his failed Iraq war. Thirty years ago we were told we were fighting in Vietnam to stop the spread of communism. Today the U.S. has a multi billion dollar trade deficit with communist countries. That is todays reality on the politician's failed Vietman war. Bush didn't invade Iraq over moral values or democracy, he invaded Iraq over MONEY. Now that Bush and Cheney have failed with their war they should both resign. I am sure they won't do the right thing and resign so WE NEED TO OUTSOURCE BOTH BUSH AND CHENEY IN NOVEMBER
[ edited by BIGPEEPA on Jul 6, 2004 01:12 PM ]
 
 Bear1949
 
posted on July 6, 2004 03:38:16 PM new
Kerry doesn't know what the hell he wants. He continues to Flip Flop even on his VP selection. Kerry stabbed Edwards in the back during the primaries & now it kiss and make up time?
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Kerry Likes Edwards Now, Criticized Him Then
By Nathan Burchfiel
CNSNews.com Correspondent
July 06, 2004

(Adds more previous comment from Kerry and Edwards)

(CNSNews.com) - - Sen. John F. Kerry once criticized Sen. John Edwards for having "no international experience, no military experience," but on Tuesday Kerry proclaimed, "John Edwards is ready for the job" of vice president. Republican critics accused Kerry of flip-flopping once again.

In fact, the Republican National Committee posted excerpts of press reports on its website, to show how Kerry previously criticized Edwards for his lack of political experience.

Kerry was quoted in a January 9, 2004 New York Times article as saying of Edwards, "In the Senate four years -- and that is the full extent of public life -- no international experience, no military experience ... When I came back from Vietnam in 1969 I don't know if John Edwards was out of diapers then. Well, I'm sure he was out of diapers."

Edwards, who was born in 1953, would have been 16 years old when Kerry returned from service in Vietnam.

The same article reported that Kerry later apologized to Edwards over the remark.

On February 2, 2004, Kerry criticized Edwards' lack of experience: "I think the American people want an experienced hand at the helm of state ... This is not the time for on-the-job training in the White House on national security issues," the Los Angeles Times quoted Kerry as saying.

Kerry's February comment came after Edwards criticized Kerry for his involvement with special interest groups: "That's another difference between Sen. Kerry and me," Edwards said at the time: "I don't take contributions from lobbyists, and he obviously does."

In response, the Kerry campaign noted that "the majority" of Edwards' money comes from fellow trial lawyers. "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones," Kerry told MSNBC.

Edwards also has criticized Kerry's experience. "If we want real change in Washington," he said, "we need someone who hasn't been there for 15 to 20 years."

A June 10, 2004 Boston Globe report quoted Kerry as saying of Edwards' bid for the presidency after less than one term in the Senate, "And people call me ambitious?"

The New York Times reported on February 14, 2004 that Kerry did not see Edwards as a winner in the South, where Kerry's support is relatively weak. "He can't win in his own state," Kerry reportedly told aides. However, Edwards did win both the South Carolina and North Carolina Democratic primaries.

Kerry attacked Edwards on several other fronts.

Kerry told ABC's George Stephanopoulos, " ... John Edwards, I notice, voted to give life to George Bush's tax cut, because he voted for the first round of that tax cut. I did not."

The New York Times reported on February 19 that Kerry's campaign criticized Edwards for abandoning his promise of a clean campaign. "Edwards promised to run a positive campaign. But now Edwards attacks John Kerry and runs from his own record," the Kerry camp said.

Edwards gave as well as he got during the campaign. In referring to Kerry, Edwards told ABC's This Week in January, "He's not been clear to me," on the war. "I think he's said some different things at different points in time. So I think there's been some inconsistency."

Edwards outlined the differences in their health care policies to ABC's This Week on February 22. "[H]is cost is dramatically higher than mine," Edwards said, adding that, "I cover every single child, which Sen. Kerry does not do."

Kerry's support of the North American Free Trade Agreement also prompted Edwards to hit the Massachusetts senator. "Those trade deals were wrong," Edwards told the Associated Press. "They cost us too many jobs and lowered our standards."

But since dropping out of the Democratic nomination in March, Edwards and Kerry have become friendlier. Edwards has campaigned for Kerry and has urged his own supporters to donate to the Kerry campaign.

Kerry even has adopted some of Edwards' primary slogans. In his speech on Tuesday, Kerry mentioned what Edwards called a "great divide" in America.

"I am so proud that together, John Edwards and I are going to fight to build one America for all Americans," Kerry said on Tuesday.

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200407\POL20040706c.html

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Or maybe it is kiss and make up time for Kerry, looks as though the first kiss is imminent.






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 fenix03
 
posted on July 6, 2004 03:47:53 PM new
Bear - do you remember any primary season where the candidate did not trash the person he ended up selecting? Bush Sr did it, Reagan did it. The only time a candidate has not spent 6 months trashing their VP is when they select someone was never in the running. If this is your new attack justification, you have official made contact with the bottom of he barrel.


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 Helenjw
 
posted on July 6, 2004 04:01:21 PM new

The bottom of the barrel is familiar territory for Bear and the neocons.

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on July 6, 2004 04:26:54 PM new
Bottom of the barrel. No, that was set by the lying libs & demo gods idol Willie boy. But then Helen you speciality would be looking up from the barrel bottom through all the slime.













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*the continuation of the human species,
*the rearing of children,
*the regulation of sexuality,
*the provision of mutual support and protection,
*the creation of an altruistic domestic economy, and
*the maintenance of bonds between the generations."
 
 rustygumbo
 
posted on July 6, 2004 04:28:40 PM new
Kerry a flip-flopper???

How about McCain? He was blasting Bush for everything from the war, to social security, to benefits to veterans. Now he is supporting Bush. Will the real McCain, please stand up, please stand up...

Let's not forget Cheney. He claimed to have nothing to do with Halliburton, yet he received a nice chunk of change from them last year. So, which is it? He has nothing to do with Halliburton or does he?

Bush, "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Now he's flip flopping on those pesky WMDs.

Sounds like most politicians flip and flop back and forth. Before you go pointing fingers at the candidate you wish to bash, you might want to look within your favorite candidate to see what they represent.

Edwards may not have all the political and international experience that is claimed to be ideal, however, that may just be what this country needs. Perhaps we will have someone who will do something different other than giving their favorite corporations free handouts. Those tactics don't seem to be a positive for Cheney.

[ edited by rustygumbo on Jul 6, 2004 04:37 PM ]
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on July 6, 2004 05:38:02 PM new
Why would anyone think Kerry wanted McCain? No way would he put him on his ticket. McCain is damaged goods after they ruined him in 2000.

They would think that because Kerry asked him and was turned down...
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 scrabblegod
 
posted on July 6, 2004 06:43:15 PM new
He asked him more than once and was turned down more than once so..

Mr Edwards, welcome to the race and how does it feel to be the second choice for the second place finish?


Gene
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on July 6, 2004 06:54:03 PM new

Speaking of how a future Vice President may feel, This was a good point made on the OTWA political board today about how the present Vice President must feel.

bhearsch quote.."I think Bush's re-election team understands that Cheney is a detriment...."

mrpotatoheadd ....."That might go a long way towards explaining Cheney's demeanor. It's got to suck to know that you're considered a detriment to someone as "accomplished" as George Bush"

LOL

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on July 6, 2004 07:12:32 PM new
Their debate is something I very much look forward to.

We'll see whose laughing then.







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 ebayauctionguy
 
posted on July 6, 2004 07:23:45 PM new
Cheney is probably the best VP this country has ever had, but I think Bush should start grooming an heir for 2008. I'd like to see Condaleeza Rice, but unfortunately she's probably unelectable. Democrats would attack her like a lynch mob. Rudi Gulianni would be a sure thing. How about a Gulianni/Rice ticket for 2008?





"I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it."
 
 fenix03
 
posted on July 6, 2004 07:32:18 PM new
EAG - When you move your head to quickly, do you see trails?


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 davebraun
 
posted on July 6, 2004 07:47:58 PM new
Cheney is about on par with Spiro Agnew. A couple of peas in a pod.

 
 rustygumbo
 
posted on July 6, 2004 08:40:27 PM new
EAG- I'm just curious as to why you believe Cheney is possibly the best VP ever in US History? Please give me some good valid reasons too. If possible, name 5.

 
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