posted on September 16, 2004 08:42:32 AM new
crowfarm - You never addressed the thread where it was proven that you, once again, said something I'd supposedly said..when I hadn't.
You showed your lack of backbone in not being able to support your lies.
You didn't even have the guts to address that thread. Just pretended it never happened by ignoring it totally. Not only could you not apologize to me for being proven wrong [which I never expected from the likes of you]....but you didn't even have the guts to address the issues.
You're a liar....just as twelvepoles posts keep mentioning when you speak. Nothing you say about me has ever been true....liars like you can't speak the truth. Your character and you lack of credibility is seen by all honest posters here.
posted on September 16, 2004 08:46:12 AM new
Linda - how do you know that she gave nothing? This is a woma that runs a philanthropic organization... d you honestly believe that she is giving nothing or is it more likely that she did it quietly and discreetly? Hell, had she made a large PUBLICIZED donation Bears post would have read something along the line of "Teresa uses dead husbands fotune to buy votes" accusing her of trying to use a tragey to influnence the votes of carribean immigrants in the Florida and New York.
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posted on September 16, 2004 08:55:37 AM new
Teresa could have been caught stealing relief packages and she would still be a better first lady that the phoney demur stepford wife that is there now.
posted on September 16, 2004 08:56:36 AM newTypical dem position....spend other peoples money to make yourself look good and for the benefit of your husbands election which is in the toilet right now.
Typical reponse from a Republican who supports a president that is spending other people's money to help out a country of people who do not have electricty and water.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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posted on September 16, 2004 08:59:22 AM new
fenix - The left here, imo, really needs to quit 'guessing' what anyone would do unless they say it themselves, don't you agree?
I could go around saying someone has aids....but I'd be lying because I'd have no way of knowing if it were true or not. Same goes for posters stating what others 'would have done'...when they don't know it to be true. Or it's an actual out-and-out lie.
We're discussing what's in the article - not guessing what she might have done - only what got her the attention for them showing up and giving to these people out of campaign donation rather than their own money. If anyone has other information that proves she donated out of her own funds...they should provide it.
This is what politicans do...they go around working to make themselves look good to the voters during the campaign season and want all the photo-ops so the public can see just how wonderful they are.
Now if either of the kerry's had donation needed items to these people I personally would see that action in a different light. But they didn't. They acted like typical dems and gave other peoples money away...not their own.
posted on September 16, 2004 09:05:14 AM newTypical reponse from a Republican who supports a president that is spending other people's money to help out a country of people who do not have electricty and water.
You're confused again, logansdad. You comparing apples with oranges.
We're talking about PERSONAL donations or lack thereof not what a President does as a representative of our nation.
You know, when the dems say they believe in re-distribution of personal income for the benefit of all. Why should those who've worked for what they have be able to keep it all for themselves when so many don't have anything. And then they support a very wealthy couple who give nothing of their own...ie: they're not into the 'redistribution mode' of THEIR income....only of others incomes. LOL
posted on September 16, 2004 09:07:42 AM newI could go around saying someone has aids....but I'd be lying because I'd have no way of knowing if it were true or not.
It hasn't stopped you in the past from jumping to conclusions about people. Now all of a sudden because something is not in the article we should just stick to what was said in the article.
What a ridiculous statement coming from you Linda.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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posted on September 16, 2004 09:19:26 AM newThe left here, imo, really needs to quit 'guessing' what anyone would do unless they say it themselves, don't you agree?
Now if either of the kerry's had donation needed items to these people I personally would see that action in a different light. But they didn't.
LOL ! Who is doing the guessing here?
Linda_K, you did say that Teresa made you gag. Sounds like you gagged bigtime over this good deed of hers.
posted on September 16, 2004 09:22:35 AM newIt hasn't stopped you in the past from jumping to conclusions about people.
LOL...when a man admits to being gay, and I state he's in the highest risk group for getting aids/hiv ...that's a fact...a [b]proven[b] conclusion.
Now all of a sudden because something is not in the article we should just stick to what was said in the article.
Again, I didn't say that. You're confused. Anything can be discussed....but to watch the left support two VERY wealthy people who don't give from their own pocket while they have an absolute FIT about republicans wanting to keep their money. Money that was MORE than what the government needed at the time. The republicans wanted to give that money back to those who had paid it....overpaid their taxes.
No matter what you lefties think most people don't appreciate being OVER taxed and where happy to get some of it back and to have their tax rates reduced. The dems only had more plans to use it for MORE spending.
But you have to see the humor in this 'redistribution' platform the dems run on and then the kerry's not giving their own money for helping others - just giving lip service. And his tax forms have shown this same pattern over the years. He donates VERY little, especially when compared to his income level for all these years with two rich wives. But hey....I agree...he'd be GREAT at giving away our money and taxing us at a much higher rate if elected. Under a kerry administration we'll quickly be under a new 70% tax rate. And you'll all just be sooo thankful he's sooo generous with your hard earned money I'm sure. lol
posted on September 16, 2004 09:27:55 AM new
kiara - Obviously it's your comprehension problem popping up again. As I stated at least twice....we're discussing what's in the article.
Her giving away other people's contribution money is not held in the same light, by me, as it would be if she gave from her own funds. The article states CLEARLY where the donations came from....
posted on September 16, 2004 09:30:18 AM new
Neocons like linda believe NO tax dollars should ever go to help the poor. She, despite her denials, has said so.
This proves what a liar she is....she does NOT believe in helping others. She has NEVER said she does.
Theresa Kerry has a long history of giving generously.......but it was never front page news, it was just done!
Now, she's the wife of someone running for president and it will get publicity.
Now, if you think LOGICALLY(which linda can't) you'd see it's just really a continuation of her generosity.
Linda, I'm sure no one here expects you to understand "generosity".
AND: Linda, if you were referring to the thread I think you were, NOTHING was proven in that thread.
OPINIONS were given.
I owe you no apology. You're the mean, tight-fisted, selfish, hate-filled person I described.
This thread is just another example.
YOU can't stand a woman like Kerry, who's so far above you and THAT'S the problem
PS: It speaks so WELL of you , Linda, that "twelve" is on your side
posted on September 16, 2004 09:31:04 AM newNow all of a sudden because something is not in the article we should just stick to what was said in the article.
Again, I didn't say that. You're confused. Anything can be discussed..
This is what you said Linda:
We're discussing what's in the article - not guessing what she might have done - only what got her the attention for them showing up and giving to these people out of campaign donation rather than their own money. If anyone has other information that proves she donated out of her own funds...they should provide it.
IF THAT IS NOT CLEAR I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS.
PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE FLIP- FLOPING.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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posted on September 16, 2004 09:34:55 AM new
Linda_K, you have the comprehension problem. I said that Teresa may not have mentioned her own donations if she gave any. Fenix said she may have done it quietly and discreetly. Then it wouldn't be in the article, would it?
You are just upset that Teresa looks good and Laura didn't get the publicity. But maybe they will trot Laura out after they program her to perform and she can try to upstage Teresa. After all, isn't that what politics is all about?
posted on September 16, 2004 09:35:04 AM new
And on this constant mention of 'gagging'. Yes, she does make me gag. Some of the groups she's donationed her own funds to are known anti-American groups.
And yes, it makes me gag to even think about someone who supports these groups being our First Lady. Between her and kerry...they'll sell us out to other countries wants and wishes and their political platforms quicker than lightning.
That is once kerry forms an opinion on any issue....after all it's taken him almost three years and he still hasn't decided exactly where he does stand on the Iraq war. LOL
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posted on September 16, 2004 09:40:09 AM newafter all it's taken him almost three years and he still hasn't decided exactly where he does stand on the Iraq war.
Neither does Bush! LOL
Would love to see Teresa as First Lady and see Linda_K gag for four more years.
posted on September 16, 2004 09:42:48 AM new
No, what I should have said maybe is that I don't see any proof of what your guessing about....that she HAS given money that's not being mentioned. FINE....prove it.
Otherwise it's still guessing and reading some crystal ball as the article doesn't mention it....which I'm saying if it had happened they most likely WOULD have mentioned it to 'up' her "good deeds" and make her look EVEN better.
I base my opinions on what has been state [the article]....not what hasn't been stated as fact....but is purely speculation on your parts.
posted on September 16, 2004 09:45:05 AM new
Linda says, "posted on September 16, 2004 09:35:04 AM new
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And on this constant mention of 'gagging'. Yes, she does make me gag. Some of the groups she's donationed her own funds to are known anti-American groups.
And yes, it makes me gag to even think about someone who supports these groups being our First Lady. Between her and kerry...they'll sell us out to other countries wants and wishes and their political platforms quicker than lightning.
That is once kerry forms an opinion on any issue....after all it's taken him almost three years and he still hasn't decided exactly where he does stand on the Iraq war."
See, I wasn't lying about the gagging was I?
So why would I lie about anything else
Linduh, bush doesn't know where HE stands either....first he's the War president, then he's the peace president, the war is over, then it's not, we can win the war on terrorism , then we can't, then we can,...
Ya, linda, I just LOVE bush's firm, resolute stances!
posted on September 16, 2004 09:52:36 AM new
crowfarm - It speaks so WELL of you , Linda, that "twelve" is on your side.
Again, twisting what's been said. Twelve and I are in agreement that you've been proven to be a liar. Others have seen proof you were wrong in your accusations of stating what I've said, when I haven't. That doesn't mean he's 'on my side'...just that at least two of us here are calling you just what you are...a proven liar.
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Those are only two reasons why we need to:
posted on September 16, 2004 10:01:11 AM new
kiara - Neither does Bush. A very untrue statement. That's why so many support this President's re-election....because they can count on him staying steadfast on his positions...unlike kerry who even the top raking democrats are worried about. lol
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posted on September 16, 2004 10:13:10 AM new
Bush's "stay the course as we blunder through for a few more years" plan is another thread topic, Linda_K.
This one is about Teresa's good deeds and what a wonderful caring woman she is.
posted on September 16, 2004 10:17:45 AM new
That's debatable kiara. There are many that don't see helping anti-America groups as being a 'good' thing for America. But it comes as no surprise that you see her a 'good'. Then elect her to your own country. Oh wait....you have enough socialists there already, I forgot.
posted on September 16, 2004 10:19:34 AM new
The fact that politicians show up to lend support is a double-edged sword. They get their 'good-deed-doing publicized', we all know that - but, in doing it, they also bring attention to a much needed cause that might not have received any. [For whatever reason, the Caribbean countries and c/Americans never seem to get much assistance from this country. I haven't figured that one out yet??..maybe because they appear to be a people of much pride, or because they are not a huge or influential voting block..] In any case, she should by now know whatever she says will be blown to humongous proportions. It was kind of a silly thing to say to people who are trying to give what they can. - Who knows, maybe they could use the boxes of clothes to soak up flood damage somewhere if theres a surplus - but it does sound kind of Out of Africa or tribal'ish to think of a bunch of little carribean kids running around naked.
Linda, didn't the Kerry daughters say on National TV their father has mortgaged their house for this campaign? I wonder how much of that 700 bil or mil they've really got left.
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posted on September 16, 2004 10:24:06 AM new
A post that proves linda is quite capable of lying.
Everyone here should know my feelings now about bush.
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posted on September 16, 2004 10:01:11 AM
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Ya, know, the people who really need the assistance probably don't care what or how it's given.....THEIR opinion counts, ours doesn't.
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posted on September 16, 2004 10:31:39 AM new
You selectively missed part of my post, linduh.
"Linduh, bush doesn't know where HE stands either....first he's the War president, then he's the peace president, the war is over, then it's not, we can win the war on terrorism , then we can't, then we can,...
Ya, linda, I just LOVE bush's firm, resolute stances!"
posted on September 16, 2004 10:35:01 AM new
neroter - Not from his daughter's statements...but just from news reports...he supposedly mortaged his 1/2 of one of their 8 or 9 mansions. Then they sold one in Italy...not mentioned where those funds went.
From what I've read kerry has had more funding for his campaign than President Bush. That's taking all sources of funding to support their campaigns into consideration. With all kerry's 527s they have really outfunded the President's 527..but the Republicans have received larger donations than the kerry campaign has. That's my understanding last I read about it. Could have changed but I haven't seen any recent mention of it.
On the topic....anybody who does anything to help others is always a good thing. That wasn't the point in my statements...but rather the hypocrisy from the lefties who want to take money out of the pockets of others and give it to their 'choice of recipients' rather than letting each give to whom they wish to. Plus the pattern I've mention of the RICH democrats not using their own personal funds....but always to willing to tax us more and give our money to others....others THEY decide they want to have it. Not we who earn it giving it to whom we choose to give it to.
posted on September 16, 2004 10:38:30 AM new
Crowfarm I wish I could find the thread on where you said something to the effect that you hope Bush does not give money to the hurricane disaster in Florida. You emphatically said that you were against aid to the hurricane victims in Florida. Watch where you donations go as you never know if they are going to leave the country.
If you go back to the OP it is about Teresa saying let the children go naked they need water etc first. Then stated money was donated from the Kerry Campaign to buy it. That is what we are discussing here, as that is all we know. Now if she said she was donating personal money from the Kerry Family this thread would have been different.
Of course "righties" never, never say bad things about a foreign born naturalized American who speaks 5 languages, married to the democratic presidential candidate, tells reporters to "shove it" and calls the republicans "Idiots". shame on us.
posted on September 16, 2004 10:50:32 AM new
Linda_K, you can try to spin this any way you wish now about what your point is or was but your very first comment here was that Teresa's actions were "staged" and that she didn't give any of her own money.
