posted on October 27, 2004 12:51:21 PM new
KD - You don't realize how much the world economy is tied up with the U.S.
I don't??? According to whom? Sure I do. But that doesn't mean other countries get to have an input into how we're dealing with anything done in this country. We're seperate countries..there's a reason for that...we don't think alike.
Opinions are just that...opinions...and everybody has them.
The only problems ANY country has, has to do with it's economy. The value of your dollar is shrinking, your deficit is exploding,
And yet we're in better shape than most of the larger countries....our unemployment is lower...our GDP is higher...and things are improving under the leadership of President Bush...especially consider all that our Nation has been though...starting with 9-11. Other countries did have to deal with that. We did.
you're in the middle of another Viet Nam,
nope - nothing at all like VN.
and you want others to just look away and mind their own business??
Read what I said about opinions. But clearly understand that it gets annoying when a Canadian is constantly criticizing my country when her country has it's own problems. So...what you see is my reaction to that...my opinion.
posted on October 27, 2004 12:57:18 PM new
Linda, maybe it's the media's fault. All you see or read are the "bad" things about Afghanistan and Iraq. That's why I asked where all the pictures were that showed the good things, such as the rebuilding they keep talking about. Where are the pictures? What about Afghanistan? Where are the pictures of the progress/re-building going on there?
posted on October 27, 2004 01:09:43 PM newa Canadian.... she spits out with contempt.
Lindak has trouble separating me from Canada the very same way she has difficulty separating my comments about Bush from my feelings for the rest of the US.
Being further right than any neocon, she doesn't realize that there are others that hold dual citizenship or that they choose other countries besides the US to work in. She doesn't realize that they can like other countries as well as their own.
She is so self-absorbed that she doesn't even have a clue about the expatriates who plan to vote. If she wants to sound the least bit informed, perhaps she should do a google search on expatriate voters. She may be alarmed at the numbers.
posted on October 27, 2004 01:10:29 PM new
Linda, nobody's criticizing the U.S. It's the President & Co. that are the problem. Bush could've changed people's opinions of him if he had've just stuck with Afghanistan, located Bin Laden and finished the job. I think the adulation he received post-911 made his head swell with a sense of power and he mistakenly invaded Iraq. That decision changed the world, not the Afghanistan invasion. That's what everyone is criticizing, and rightly so.
posted on October 27, 2004 01:22:17 PM new
kraft: That's why I asked where all the pictures were that showed the good things, such as the rebuilding they keep talking about. Where are the pictures? What about Afghanistan? Where are the pictures of the progress/re-building going on there?
Kraft don't you remember all the links Linda provided showing the reconstruction efforts going on. There were so many pictures, including people riding on camels, tanker trucks where soldiers are getting water, soldiers with guns just standing around. However there were no before and after pictures of anything being rebuilt.
How can you deny these pictures of the reconstruction effort. I am glad our tax money is being used wisely.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
posted on October 27, 2004 01:29:51 PM newI'm just sure they'd think you know better than they do with all your military training and decades of experience in war
LOL How silly...how childish. If only those who are allowed to speak have to have been in Iraq...then NO ONE HERE will be discussing the subject.
Well then using your philosophy, Bush shouldn't be allowed to give the military commanders advice and tell them how things should be done. We all know Bush has the decades of war experience to be qualified to give advice.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
posted on October 27, 2004 01:36:25 PM new
Logan, Linda provided a google link of 33,000. I read them all and only found one picture of a new school. Only problem was, it wasn't dated.
Your tax dollar - right. What's the deal now? Every single person in the the U.S. would have to pay $40,000.00 to get the U.S. out of debt.
posted on October 27, 2004 01:45:04 PM new
Yes, KD, I agree that since most of the media in print and on TV is liberal that does have a great deal of influence on those who watch them.
And on the subject of pictures....like I said...just do a google search and be sure to include the words Iraq photo galleries and you will get many websites that have pictures.
It's just that the lefties here won't even address all the questions put to them....matter of fact...I should say RARELY are willing to answer questions put to them...but then when a statement is made by a right...especially me ...then all the lefties want me to do their work for them. It either works both ways or it doesn't work at all. I'm sure you can understand that's only right. [no even I don't believe the left here would expect fairness or the same degree of accountability from other lefties as they do from the righties.
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logansdad - Well then using your philosophy, Bush shouldn't be allowed to give the military commanders advice and tell them how things should be done.
Again if you anti-Bush people would ever read anything that's not liberal you would already have the knowledge of just how President Bush said he was allowing the military commanders to make the 'calls'/decisions...as he felt they know best what's going on - on the ground.
posted on October 27, 2004 01:55:23 PM new
Your psychological blackmail doesn't work on me Linda. You can c&p hundreds of articles yet you won't post a picture of the positive stuff going on in Iraq? I ain't buyin it.
posted on October 27, 2004 02:08:20 PM new
I had to go and do some real work but I am back now. Man it sure looks like this thread has really taken off while I was gone. I see that even the kinder, gentler Maggie has joined in. But I did want to answer your questions, as best as I can, Kiara.
Iran? If they were going to take out terrorists, that would have been the country to invade and not Iraq.
I disagree because we were allready heading into an inevitable conflict with Iraq. What would have been the reasoning to go to war with Iran. This way we can still fight the terrorists that come across the border from Iran into Iraq and from other countries as well.
If it was 'under control' why do they train 50 new security officers and then send them home unarmed and with no protection so they get massacred? Someone should have been in control there to make sure that they were kept safe as they were a valuable asset.
I partially agree with you on this, however, war is not an exact science and strategies on both sides of the conflict have to change in order carry out each sides objective. It was a learning experience, albeit a damned expensive one but you can bet that it won't be repeated. I know that sounds kinda coldhearted but I know not what else to say about it.
How many times do they "take" Fallujah? A political decision to keep pulling out perhaps, but not a military one.
As many times as it takes to run the insurgents out and quash their ability to fight.
The insurgents have multiplied 20 times? over since the invasion of Iraq. Please explain to me if this is all 'under control' why do they allow them to keep expanding? I don't think that the strategy is to keep them coming into Iraq.
I believe that the strategy is to have them keep coming into Iraq so that we can fight them there rather than here. Also don't forget the fact that we can't fight them at the borders for fear of expanding the conflict to other countries, at this time.
I think they are spreading even moreso worldwide now, making it more unsafe for all.
The fact that their associates worldwide are pissed off at us is understandable, afterall we are killing their religous bretherin that keep coming to Iraq to fight us. I don't know how much longer the strategy of fighting them in Iraq will hold before they catch on and then the conflict will inevitably have to change but we will milk it for all it's worth.
posted on October 27, 2004 02:48:37 PM new
Well then, Maggie, I look forward to the conflict but I think you had better put on a pair of rubber manure boots as it can get pretty deep in here. I think Crowfarm must have an extra pair that she can loan you.
posted on October 27, 2004 08:22:00 PM newAnd on the subject of pictures....like I said...just do a google search and be sure to include the words Iraq photo galleries and you will get many websites that have pictures.
You will get pictures of Iraq from 30 years ago. You will not get any recent pictures because most of the country is in ruins because of all the bombs dropped by US forces.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
posted on October 28, 2004 12:47:39 AM new
Excellent point by Logansdad, "Well then using your philosophy, Bush shouldn't be allowed to give the military commanders advice and tell them how things should be done. We all know Bush has the decades of war experience to be qualified to give advice. "
Ya, the great leader who hid under his bed so he wouldn't have to defend his country in battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Milksop, panty-waist, cowardly, quivering pile of ship, scared rabbit that he is!
posted on October 28, 2004 05:36:04 AM new
Linda, why bother, those who hod dual citizenahip have no respect for either country and are to chickenshit to make a choice... something thier chosen leader can't do either, make a decision...
I mean who give a sh!t what some senile old bastard thinks...
posted on October 28, 2004 11:50:01 AM new"Linda, why bother, those who hod dual citizenahip have no respect for either country and are to chickenshit to make a choice"
What a dumb comment Twelve. You don't choose a country when you are a citizen of both. Wake up before you post!
According to whom? Sure I do. But that doesn't mean other countries get to have an input into how we're dealing with anything done in this country. We're seperate countries..there's a reason for that...we don't think alike. 
...then all the lefties want me to do their work for them. It either works both ways or it doesn't work at all. I'm sure you can understand that's only right. 