posted on October 27, 2004 07:09:00 AM new
50,000+ absentee ballots are "missing" in Broward County Florida! The USPS says they were mailed on time. This and the fact that there is no paper trail on the new touchscreen machines, is, once again, going to create another major problem in an election which may again come down th Florida's vote.
posted on October 27, 2004 08:21:50 AM new
Pretty sad state of affairs we're seeing now. Makes me wonder if our election system is just becoming a farce or if it will survive this election period.
There are problems being reported in many states....some have mentioned they don't think the BIG problem's going to be in Florida this time, but rather Ohio.
Then some say Colorado because they'll also be voting, retro-actively, on having the ability to split their electoral votes. Then when 10,000 lawyers involved...that alone almost guarantees chaos.
But I just listened to a man who said the touch voting machines weren't going to present the problem some think they might.
He said even on the paperless machines they still can re-run the voting count to verify it's the same as the initial one was. Also he mentioned that some of the same machines do have paper verification....and when asked why some have the ability to print out the results on paper and other's don't his answer was that decision was left up to each state. That the states had been given money to upgrade their machines...and each was free to choose which type they wanted.
So...they did.
The suit, brought against elections supervisors in Broward, Miami-Dade and several other counties, charged that the rejected registration forms had come disproportionately from blacks and Hispanics. In some cases, the applicants did not check a box indicating that they were American citizens, though they signed an oath on the form affirming that they were. Some registrants corrected their incomplete forms before the Oct. 4 registration deadline, the suit said, but elections officials did not always process them in time, and did not let other registrants know that their forms were flawed.
posted on October 27, 2004 10:19:52 AM new
Won't the liberal weenies look stoopid over the big foofoorah they plan to make in Florida, if Dubya wins without it?
posted on October 27, 2004 02:04:55 PM new "Won't the liberal weenies look stoopid over the big foofoorah they plan to make in Florida, if Dubya wins without it?"
Liberals recognize that what's happening in Florida is happening in every other swing state. Voters in poor neighborhoods who want to vote for Kerry will be intimidated, voting machines will be insecure and the presidential election will be corrupted by Republican thugs. If the neocon thugs are successful, Dubya will win *with it*, parklane.
MIAMI (Reuters) - U.S. Postal Service investigators on Wednesday were trying to find thousands
of absentee ballots which should have been delivered to voters in one of Florida's most populous
counties, officials said.
The issue evoked memories of the polling problems that bedeviled the Florida election in 2000
and which the state has been trying to address before next Tuesday's presidential election, which
is again expected to be a very tight race.
Broward deputy supervisor of elections Gisela Salas said 60,000 absentee ballots, accounting for
just over 5 percent of the electorate in the county north of Miami, were sent out between Oct. 7
and Oct. 8 to voters who would not be in town on election day.
While some had begun to be delivered, her office had been inundated with calls from anxious voters
who still had not received their ballots.
"It's really inexplicable at this point in time and the matter is under investigation by law enforcement,"
Salas told Reuters.
"It was basically our first major drop of the absentee ballots," Salas said. She said postal service
officials had assured Broward elections supervisor Brenda Snipes that the ballots had moved out
of the post office to which they had been taken by the elections office.
U.S. Postal Service Inspector Del Alvarez, whose federal agency is independent from the U.S.
Postal Service, said it had yet to be determined if the ballots reached the post office.
"It's highly unlikely that 58,000 pieces of mail just disappeared," he said. "We're looking for it,
we're trying to find it if in fact it was ever delivered to the postal service."
In 2000 the race in Florida, on which the national presidential contest ultimately depended,
was so close it prompted five weeks of lawsuits and recounts.
The U.S. Supreme Court eventually halted the recounts, handing President Bush a 537-vote
victory in Florida and the White House, and infuriating Democrats who insist their candidate
Al Gore won the popular vote in the state.
The punch card ballots that were at the heart of the disputed 2000 election have been replaced
by touchscreen voting machines in 15 of Florida's 67 counties, and just over half the state electorate
will use them. The other counties will use optical scanning machines to read paper ballots
But poll watchers still fear another legal maelstrom if the race in Florida, or any other critical swing state,
is close and there are suspicions that some voters were denied a ballot.
Salas said the missing absentee ballot forms did not yet represent a major election problem because
people had the option of voting early before next Tuesday, when Bush is being challenged by
Democratic Sen. John Kerry.
Poll workers will be able to cross-check through lap top computers hooked up to a central database
whether voters had already sent in absentee ballots. On election day itself, those who requested absentee
ballots will only be able to vote in person if they bring the blank absentee forms with them.
"A lot of people are very concerned because they think that just because they requested an absentee ballot,
now they're stuck in a limbo situation where they don't have their ballot and they can't vote," Salas said.
"So most definitely we want to get the message out that yes they can go to an early voting site and cast their ballot
and that's what we would encourage them to do," she said.
posted on October 28, 2004 08:37:20 AM new
Liberals recognize that what's happening in Florida is happening in every other swing state. Voters in poor neighborhoods who want to vote for Kerry will be intimidated, voting machines will be insecure and the presidential election will be corrupted by Republican thugs. If the neocon thugs are successful, Dubya will win *with it*, parklane.
yes they will be intimated...they have to learn how to read first.
posted on October 28, 2004 08:49:32 AM new
Our "election" system was already corrupt in 2000 when it turned into an "appointment " system.
This year will be no better...the crimes and crookedness are now just being published in advance, like here in Minnesota where Republicans were again caught throwing away Democratic registration forms.
Without a true , fair, equal, uncorrupted vote we have lost all vestiges of democracy.
We need global observers to keep the hanky-panky to a minimum. We feel free to observe other countries....we should expect help from them when we so obviously need it .
posted on October 28, 2004 08:51:28 AM new
Classicrock, when you use quotes you should use quotation marks or italicize the remark...[i] at the beginning and [/i*]at the end (remove the asterisk in the ending tag and close the space.)
Otherwise, it appears to be your statement and someone may conclude that you are a liberal.
posted on October 28, 2004 08:55:59 AM new
Might also be a repeat of the disgruntled PO employee that had tons of ballots in their home trashcan...some already had been burned.
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And again helen wants to create this racial divided....there were two different investigations that disproved those accusations.
But what she fails show no concerned about was gore's fight to keep our overseas ballots from being counted....you know our military votes.
Made it look like the dems were against our soldiers having a say in the election.
posted on October 28, 2004 09:04:02 AM new"Might also be a repeat of the disgruntled PO employee that had tons of ballots in their home trashcan...some already had been burned. And again helen wants to create this racial divided....there were two different investigations that disproved those accusations." "But what she fails show no concerned about was gore's fight to keep our overseas ballots from being counted....you know our military votes." "Made it look like the dems were against our soldiers having a say in the election."
LOL...linda
You definately need another cup or two of coffee...maybe a whole pot!
posted on October 28, 2004 09:30:53 AM new
In this thread and here you are not making sense. I'm not wasting any more time translating your gibberish this morning. If you want to make accusations that postal employees or Al Gore is responsible for election irregularities discussed in this thread you will have to back it up.
posted on October 28, 2004 09:46:59 AM new
No coffee needed helen....facts of the investigation are the final word.
But the kerry supporters continue to re-hash just about every conceivable issue...each and every elections...no matter the truth.
Here kerry's still saying President Bush wants a draft, when it is HE who has said he wants 40,000 more troops.
kerry's still lying and trying to scare seniors that President Bush is going to damage their social security income.
The list goes on and on. But to me the MOST despicable is what you do...use race and death as dividing issues to further your own political leanings. You use our soldiers deaths to promote your wish for us to [quoting your words] "to admit defeat" and get out. You use the race card to fire up tenions between blacks and white. DESPICABLE!!!
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Here are the two groups that found your oft repeated false statements to be incorrect:
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In June 2001, following a six-month investigation that included subpoenas of Florida state officials from Governor Jeb Bush on down, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights issued a report that found no evidence of voter intimidation, no evidence of voter harassment, and no evidence of intentional or systematic disenfranchisement of black voters.
Headed by a fiercely partisan Democrat, Mary Frances Berry, the Commission was very critical of Florida election officials (many of whom were Democrats). For example, "Potential voters confronted inexperienced poll workers, antiquated machinery, inaccessible polling locations, and other barriers to being able to exercise their right to vote." But the report found no basis for the contention that officials conspired to disenfranchise voters. "Moreover," it said, "even if it was foreseeable that certain actions by officials led to voter disenfranchisement, this alone does not mean that intentional discrimination occurred," let alone racial discrimination.
The Justice Department's Civil Rights Division conducted a separate investigation of these charges and also came up empty. In a May 2002 letter to Democratic Senator Pat Leahy of Vermont, who at the time headed the Judiciary Committee, Assistant Attorney General Ralph Boyd wrote, "The Civil Rights Division found no credible evidence in our investigations that Floridians were intentionally denied their right to vote during the November 2000 election."
Peter Kirsanow, a Republican member of the Civil Rights Commission, told us in an interview that "the press has tried to spin what happened in Florida into something sinister. But there's a disconnect between what was actually found [in these various investigations] and how it's been portrayed."
Senator Corzine's letter references the New York Times, where heavy-breathing columnists are trying to link a routine investigation of voter fraud in an Orlando mayoral election with a statewide effort by Governor Jeb Bush to intimidate blacks into staying home in November. Elsewhere, the NAACP and People for the American Way have issued a report claiming that "intimidation" led to racially motivated voter disenfranchisement in Florida. These and other left-wing groups are planning to dispatch 5,000 lawyers nationwide on Election Day in the name of "voter protection," presumably to prevent a "repeat" of something that didn't happen the first time.
Another prong of the attack on the legitimacy of the Florida outcome, at least as it pertains to the notion the black voters were intentionally disenfranchised, is the number of black voters whose ballots were spoiled. The Civil Rights Commission concluded that blacks were more likely to spoil their votes than whites by a factor of 10 to 1. Other investigations put that ratio closer to 3 to 1. In any case, the numbers are educated guesses extrapolated from sample precincts because ballots don't record the race of the voter.
But the idea that racial animus rather than all-around incompetence produced higher spoilage rates for blacks, or accounted for their misplacement on the infamously inaccurate "felon purge list," is fanciful at best. In Florida, as in many other states, the manner in which elections are conducted, including all of the essentials of the voting process, is determined at the county level. Which leaves the "stolen election" crowd with these inconvenient facts: In 24 of the 25 Florida counties with the highest ballot spoilage rate, the county supervisor was a Democrat. In the 25th county, the supervisor was an Independent.
And as for the "felon purge list," the Miami Herald found that whites were twice as likely to be incorrectly placed on the list as blacks.
The real spectacle here is that some Democrats are only too willing to exploit the painful history of black voter disenfranchisement for some short-term partisan advantage. And it just might backfire. Democrats played up the Florida fiasco in the 2002 midterm elections, repeatedly telling blacks that their votes hadn't been counted in 2000. Rather than being riled up, many black voters believed what they were told and stayed home.
Copyright Đ 2004 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
posted on October 28, 2004 10:01:39 AM new
DallasNews.com Oct.24/25
It's just MORE kerry lies
The Democrats' voter manual instructs party operatives to "launch a pre-emptive strike" by charging voter intimidation even if there is no evidence any such thing is taking place.
And of course, a standard line of John F. Kerry's is, "Never again will a million African-Americans be denied their right to exercise the vote in the United States of America."
That's a nice general sentiment, and I would be in total solidarity with Kerry if he were referring to Jim Crow or the days of slavery. But he's talking about the 2000 election. And there is simply no evidence that 1 million African-Americans were denied their right to vote in 2000.
Indeed, John Fund, the author of the eminently comprehensive and thoughtful book "Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud is Threatening Democracy," has implored the NAACP, the ACLU and the Democratic Party to provide him with real life examples of blacks - or anybody else - who were specifically disenfranchised. Alas, like the "real killers" O.J. Simpson is still searching for, Fund's quest has remained unfulfilled.
In 2000, Janet Reno - still the Attorney General - dispatched crack squads to highlight the crimes against democracy the Democrats had been touting. They came up empty, too. Indeed, even Al Gore's lawyers - who saw nothing wrong with trying to squelch the votes of Americans serving in the military - failed to cite a single example of the allegedly "pervasive" disenfranchisement Democrats claimed had taken place.
You always know something's fishy when party hacks say one thing in front of cameras and another in front of judges.
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The dems will tell lies and do anything and everything to get kerry elected. Talk about his statement on 'he'll be totally honest with the American people'....yea right. Guess once again, it depends on what each use as their definition of what the word 'honesty' means to liars.
posted on October 28, 2004 10:19:36 AM new
Florida better get its act together. I have heard many conservatives worry about another florida fiasco.........if it happens a second time all heck could break loose here and abroad.
posted on October 28, 2004 10:37:41 AM new
Linda, as you know I rarely read or respond to your unidentified copy and paste jobs from right wing sources with every other sentence bolded. I did read your words and scanned this article until I read about New York Times writers described as "heavy-breathing columnists". That kind of unprofessional attack causes me to discount the information in your article. Why don't you provide links to your articles?
This thread is about this years election. Every article and every link in this thread is about current problems in Florida. It's about voting irregularities and not about the draft or death or troops or Bush's plan to privatize social security as you mentioned above. Isn't it embarrassing that in our democracy we are having such difficulty holding a fair election.
posted on October 28, 2004 11:15:39 AM new
And as far as black voters and those in poor neighborhoods who are being targeted, they are angry about having their voting rights denied and that anger will backfire on the Bush administration as more will be motivated to vote. In addition to being angry about their disinfranchisement, they are angry about loss of jobs, the mismanagement of the war and the fact that they are slipping back into poverty.
posted on October 28, 2004 11:35:01 AM new
LOL helen....all of a sudden you've lost your ability to type in those two organizations names into your google tool bar that you've shared so many times...to see the exact same FACTS stated there?
You can play all the games you want...ignore all you want...doesn't change the finds of those groups.
posted on October 28, 2004 11:42:43 AM newHow Gore Cheated American Troops Serving Overseas
NewsMax.com
Wednesday, May 9, 2001
Part one of Bill Sammon's blockbuster book, "At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election," revealed how the networks cost George W. Bush at least 10,000 votes in Florida by making an early - and completely false - call giving the state's 25 electoral votes to Al Gore.
Al Gore, who kept insisting that "every vote be counted," robbed American troops serving their country overseas of their right to vote, according to Bill Sammon's investigation of Gore's shameful, underhanded fight for Florida's crucial electoral votes.
To illustrate the depths to which Gore sank in his effort to steal the election from George W. Bush, Sammon tells the shocking story of Navy Lt. John Russell, a heroic career officer who had just fought to help save the crew of USS Cole after it was bombed by terrorists in Yemen.
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Gore's atttempt to invalidate the votes of America's servicemen and women was part of a strategy outlined in a memo that fell into the hands of GOP lawyers.
The memo outlined the steps Gore's lawyers were to take in challenging absentee military ballots.
kind of like the dems memo this year....even IF it's not happening....desinfranchising...claim it is anyway.
One of Bush's lawyers was a Panhandle attorney named Ed Fleming. He had been recruited to join the small army of legal experts to help stave off Gore's attempt to reverse the election results. "There was a rumor that there was going to be concerted, organized opposition to try to keep out the military votes, and so they asked me if I would monitor the situation here in northwest Florida," Fleming told Sammon. "I knew the county attorneys around here, so I called Tom Dannheisser, whoīs the county attorney in Santa Rosa County."
Dannheisser told Flemming that he had gotten his hands on a five-page memo from a Democrat lawyer dated that day that spelled out the Gore team's shoddy game plan to disqualify military ballots.
It was written by Mark Herron, a lawyer working for Gore in the postelection battle.
"Herron distributed what obviously was intended to be a confidential memo to their lawyers, to give them reasons to challenge the ballots," Fleming told Sammon. "But one of the attorneys that they hired locally to do that said, 'Well, gee, this seems good. Iīll just send it to the county attorney in advance, so heīll know what points Iīm going to make at the canvassing board meeting.ī
"So he sent it to the county attorney of Santa Rosa. It was one of the dumber lawyers that had been retained by the Florida Democratic Party," Fleming said.
After having determined that the memo was a public record by virtue of having been sent to Dannheisser's in his capacity as county attorney, Flemming carefully read what he realized was the Gore team's "smoking gun."
The memo instructed Democrat lawyers to make "pettifogging objections" to military ballots, especially those not postmarked.
"I sent the memo up to Tallahassee that afternoon, and it all started from there," Fleming recalls with a chuckle. Upon receiving the Herron memo, the Bush command center in Tallahassee faxed it to Republican lawyers in all 67 Florida counties, Sammon wrote. The military ballots were to be publicly tallied the next day by canvassing boards across the state.
The main battlegound was Duval County, home to more military families than any other county in Florida. Duval had more absentee ballots from overseas than any other county - 618 of 3,500 cast statewide. Five Gore lawyers showed up at the elections office at 9 a.m. Friday to disqualify as many of those ballots as possible.
Tom Bishop, one of the Republican lawyers, was incensed as he watched the Democrats, armed with the smoking-gun memo, [b]blatantly go about disqualify large numbers of military ballots.
"They had their little cheat sheet they were using, and they objected on every single possible ground they could, no matter how spurious[/b]," Bishop told Sammon. "It was so bad that there was rolling of the eyes by even some of the Democrats there who were watching their lawyers work."
Before Nov. 17, the Duval supervisor of elections compared signatures on ballot envelopes against signature cards on file. He could find only two absentee ballots that could not be included because the signatures did not match.
"But now the Democrats insisted that they be allowed to compare all signatures, one by one. For seven tedious hours, they bitterly argued that signatures on more than 100 envelopes did not precisely match the signature cards - although some envelopes had been signed by sailors on rolling seas in hostile situations," Sammon wrote.
"You could clearly tell it was the same personīs signature, but they would object because it didnīt have a certain curlicue or didnīt have a certain twist or it was smaller," Bishop told him.
The Democrat lawyers sought to disqualify military ballots that had no overseas postmark on the grounds that some voters might have marked their ballots a day or two after the election and then mailed them in.
"But the Gore lawyers took this argument to absurd lengths by actually disqualifying ballots received before Nov. 7. One belonged to a sailor named John Russell, whose vote was unceremoniously thrown out."
"I donīt know how somebody in the Sea of Japan or the Indian Ocean could have miraculously gotten it here on the sixth of November if it was supposedly mailed after the election," Bishop told Sammon. "The whole idea behind the foreign postmark is to make sure itīs timely." The Gore lawyers also protested ballots on which the return address of the attesting witness was incomplete. They challenged ballots on which foreign postmarks were smudged or partially illegible.
"Our goal was to challenge every vote that didnīt appear legitimate," says Mike Langton, Gore campaign chairman for northeast Florida.
By 7 p.m., the Democrats protested against 147 absentee ballots. The canvassing board agreed to hear formal arguments from the Gore and Bush camps.
A full 19 hours after it began, the nightmarish battle over Duvalīs military ballots came to an end. When the canvassing board announced that the ballots of 149 soldiers, sailors and airmen had been disqualified, a pair of jubilant Gore lawyers actually exchanged high-fives for their victory against America's service personnel.
"A Republican, visibly shaken by this sight, demanded to know how they could celebrate the disenfranchisement of U.S. military personnel risking their lives around the world. One of the Gore lawyers glibly replied: 'A winīs a win.'"
Statewide, Gore's henchmen had been able to disqualify 1,420 ballots statewide - or more than 40 percent of the 3,500 cast.
posted on October 28, 2004 12:17:44 PM new
What an outrageous and shameful allegation, Linda. You can take any falsehood and attempt to back it up with sources such as that. After posting on this board for so many years you should know that you can't get away with trying to back up a false statement with a book review from News Max.
posted on October 28, 2004 01:16:18 PM new
Clinton DOD Gives Up on Counting Military Vote
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2000
WASHINGTON Defense Secretary William Cohen is giving up on trying to make Florida count military absentee ballots, but he took steps Tuesday so the military won't be robbed of its vote in the next election.
Cohen directed the Pentagon inspector general to recommend changes for future elections so the "voting rights of all U.S. military personnel are respected and that everything possible is done to make sure that every vote counts."
"I want to make certain that the Department of Defense does everything within its authority to ensure that every American in uniform serving overseas, as well as their accompanying family members and DOD civilian employees, is encouraged to vote and understands the process by which ballots must be properly completed," Cohen said in a memorandum Tuesday to the Pentagon's inspector general.
"I also want to make sure that each and every ballot delivered through the Military Postal Service is processed promptly and properly as required under Department of Defense regulations."
"The secretary's interest is to make sure we have a system that makes every vote count," said Pentagon spokesman Ken Bacon at a press conference.
Fearing that military personnel would vote for President-elect Bush, Democrats labored to exclude the military vote in Florida.
After Democrat challenges, more than 1,000 absentee ballots cast by service members from overseas postings were thrown out for various reasons, the most common being lack of a postmark.
Florida law requires overseas ballots to be postmarked by Election Day, Nov. 7, and to be received in local districts within 10 days. Apparently, many absentee ballots did not receive postmarks on their ships or once they reached the United States Postal Service offices.
Military absentee ballots do not require stamps to be mailed, so there is often no mechanism to require a postmark, which prevents stamps from being used again.
I agree that military votes should be carefully counted and monitored. It is not true that Democrats made an effort to exclude legitimate ballots. What hogwash.
You need to learn how to distinguish opinion and clearly biased statements from fact. The statement, "Fearing that military personnel would vote for President-elect Bush, Democrats labored to exclude the military vote in Florida". is not a fact. That is the SPIN of a right wing News Max reporter who wrote that sentence.
BTW...In your previous comment, you said to me, " to me the MOST despicable is what you do...use race and death as dividing issues to further your own political leanings. You use our soldiers deaths to promote your wish for us to [quoting your words] "to admit defeat" and get out. You use the race card to fire up tenions between blacks and white. DESPICABLE!!!
Nothing is further from the truth. What is really "despicable" is someone who would like to hide and overlook the death of so many people in order to promote a political agenda. To do that is morally reprehensible. Has it ever occurred to you, linda that I really care more about needless loss of life more than I care about political agenda?
As far as race is concerned, you must know that a democracy should not be engaged in an effort to suppress the voting rights of historically oppressed minority groups. That's happening right now in Florida and Cleveland.
posted on October 28, 2004 04:11:32 PM new
helen - There are hundreds of sites on the internet that confirm the democrats lawyers sought to keep our military votes from being counted. Period...no matter who states it, it's a recorded fact when anyone checks out all the legal battles that were going on after the 2000 election.
On your 'disenfranchised nonsense. It's just that....nonsense. Otherwise I'm sure you'd be showing me proof of cases that did win in the court for doing so.
You haven't because it never happened. Just another figment of the lefties imagination. And they're doing it again this election cycle supposedly to get the black voters inflamed enough to go vote. Well...it just may backfire on them again.
The democratic party is totally being shown for the liars they are. It's one lie after another...one false accusation after another. And all they do is cause more division in this Nation.
posted on October 28, 2004 06:35:05 PM new"helen - There are hundreds of sites on the internet that confirm the democrats lawyers sought to keep our military votes from being counted. Period...no matter who states it, it's a recorded fact when anyone checks out all the legal battles that were going on after the 2000 election. On your 'disenfranchised nonsense. It's just that....nonsense. Otherwise I'm sure you'd be showing me proof of cases that did win in the court for doing so. You haven't because it never happened. Just another figment of the lefties imagination. And they're doing it again this election cycle supposedly to get the black voters inflamed enough to go vote. Well...it just may backfire on them again. The democratic party is totally being shown for the liars they are. It's one lie after another...one false accusation after another. And all they do is cause more division in this Nation."
You say there are hundreds of sites that confirm that Democrats sought to keep military votes from being counted but you haven't been able to offer a single one, linda. Otherwise, in your words to me, you would be showing me proof of cases. Actually, I didn't expect you to offer any information to back up your bogus claim...at least none that would be credible. Actually, it's your president that is the divider and the liar. He has divided and lied to the entire world. He has divided the United States from countries that were formally our allies. There is no facet of society that he has not divided and you are seriously deluded if you think otherwise. Bush has lied about everything...the war, the economy, the environment and domestic issues.
You can find information about current attempts to disenfranchise voters in Cleveland and Florida here and here Another interesting story that illustrates the kind of intimidation that will discourage voters in the Cleveland area is here and here. And if you want to use the google search, I'm sure that you can find "hundreds of others".
From the Florida story that I posted above..."The suit, brought against elections supervisors in Broward, Miami-Dade and several other counties, charged that the rejected registration forms had come disproportionately from blacks and Hispanics. In some cases, the applicants did not check a box indicating that they were American citizens, though they signed an oath on the form affirming that they were. Some registrants corrected their incomplete forms before the Oct. 4 registration deadline, the suit said, but elections officials did not always process them in time, and did not let other registrants know that their forms were flawed."
And, in Ohio Republicans have targeted 35,000 voters [for election challenges], most of them registered in cities with large minority populations. And they do this based either on the racist assumption that minorities are inveterate cheaters or because they know that these are voters who are likely to vote against them. Either way, it's a dirty tactic, and only can be thought to slow up, gum up, mess up the whole process. And this is something they [Republicans] have consistently done in every election since the middle to late 1960s -- underhanded, tricky, illegal and immoral tactics.
posted on October 28, 2004 07:03:57 PM new
It's really very simple, helen. These same accusation were made in 2000 and proven to be untrue. These new accusation will also be proven to be untrue. How do I know...because so far in this election cycle EVERYTHING the dems have accused the republicans of has bombed....been proven to be untrue.
